Published: Monday, Dec. 10 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
What a ridiculous letter!Conservatives have no problem endorsing all
kinds of special tax breaks and subsidies that only the wealthy may use, and
they think nothing of denying "equal protection" under the law to gays,
women and minorities, but let the subject of the progressive income tax come up
and they suddenly think _they_ are the champions of fairness. What a joke!Ok, how about this; millionaires should pay the same tax rates on all of
their income as I do on all of my income. That would at least be a step in the
Blaine, it's more troubling to me that the wealth gap in the nation grows
for no valid or morally justifiable reason and that a portion of the wealthy and
their sympathizers somehow feel that being taxed at 39% instead of 35% is
somehow a moral outrage. That being rich-minus-4% is somehow oppressive. And if you want to invoke equal protection, you should be outraged that
investment dividends are taxed at ~15% while your own salary can be taxed at
over twice that. Particularly since dividend income is enjoyed in far greater
proportion by the wealthy. For a supposedly Christian nation, we
sure have a lot of people holding a remarkable reverence for mammon.
"If the rich were allowed to vote on the proposition, I would have no
problem with it."The rich have one vote like everyone else.
Additionally, they have money to buy advertising to affect the vote. In the last 20+ years, the rich have been the only real beneficiary of a very
large wealth migration.Why is that?
Re: "How can government single out the rich?"Easy -- just
use its enormous power. Aided, of course by thoughtless rubes, muddle-headed
true believers, and disingenuous political charlatans.It's been
done to finance nearly all socialist takeovers, from Russia, to Nazi Germany, to
China, to Korea, to Cuba, to Zimbabwe -- and now here.The Obama
regime doesn't want to soak the rich to save the country -- there's
just not enough money amongst the rich to make any real difference to
America's finances. What the regime really wants is to send the message
that ALL wealth belongs to a bloated, unaccountable government, that can take it
from anyone, any time it desires to do so.Suing will do no good. The
leftist oligarchs are practically immune to suit on tax issues. The only real
solution is for people to wake up and take back their Nation and freedoms by
their votes.If it's not already too late.
If the rich could sue for denial of equal protection for having to pay a higher
tax rate than those in lower income brackets, why couldn't those who pay a
higher effective tax rate than Mitt Romney's 13%, or the 47 percenters 0%,
sue under the same theory? If one follows the author's misplaced logic, no
one should have to pay any tax if even one person is exempt.And
don't you think the rich would have already tried this tactic if it held
We have had progressive tax rates for decades. I don't think the equal
protection clause applies.
We've all voted AGAINST taxing the rich at a higher rate. The election
results are in. The House is controlled by Republicans, the party that said no
to higher taxes. The House is controlled by Republicans, the party that told
Obama that his days of tax and spend are over. House is controlled by
Republicans, the party that originates all spending bills.Obama has
no more authority to write legislation than the dog catcher. Writing
legislation is the responsibility of Congress. The House, the peoples'
representatives, are given the special duty to write all legislation regarding
our taxation.The people have spoken. Let Obama have his tantrums.
Let him waste his time and our money flying from one end of this nation to
another telling us that we were fools to elect Republicans to guard the public
treasury. He can rant. He can rave. But, he can't write legislation.
The rich that pay a half the tax rare I do? Why should the government (we)t
favor the rich over the middle class?
Taxation without representation? I'm sorry, but whether you are rich or
you are poor you have a vote in the House of Representatives just like everyone
else. Oh wait! That doesn't actually apply to the 600,000 residents of
the District of Columbia. They pay far more than the average American in federal
taxes per capita (ie. $34K for DC residents vs. $5.6K for Utah residents) and
yet they actually have no representation in the House or the Senate, just one
delegate who gets to argue all she wants but actually has no vote.If
the letter writer wants to take up a cause that is unfair to specific Americans,
that would be the one to carry forward, not the tax rates for the poor
multi-millionaires in the world.
To Mr. Richards..so the conversation is over because the House
"originates" spending bills. Interesting. You might want to tell Mr.
Boehner that because it appears he's wasting a whole lot of time
negotiating with the President. The President can't "originate"
legislation so Mr. Boehner what are you doing..you have all the power. Or???
I'm retired, living on Social Security and a retirement pension. Yet my
effective tax rate was a little more than Mitt's 13%.But
Mitt's a "job creator" so I guess that's okay.There are a lot of people in China and India who are grateful.
@mike RichardsAs gas been posited out to you numerous times already the
congress is responsible for developing the budget but it must also be approved
by the senate and the president, who are co and equal branches not just a rubber
Mike Richards:You might have forgotten but Democrats received 53% of
all votes for House seats nation wide yet they didn't win 53% of all House
seats due to Republican Legislatures across the country disenfranchising voters
and trying to keep themselves in power.Now, had the voters given
more votes to Republicans you would have a point but since that isn't what
happened, your point is moot.If Republicans don't find a way to
compromise, they will see further losses in 2014. They are already scared about
2016 with the thought of Hillary running for President. They have already
admitted that they don't have anyone that has a chance of beating her.So if Republicans don't or won't change, it will be 16 years
of straight Democratic control of the Executive branch and increasing Democratic
control in the Senate and a return to Democratic control of the House.But don't worry, the rich 2% will protect them. Oh, wait, even they want
their taxes raised. Ugh...
Mike Richards: The people have indeed spoken through their
representatives, and if the Republicans in the House of Representatives refuse
to raise taxes on the rich, as you corectly say they can do, then the previous
legislative action of the House will take effect, we will fall off the fiscal
cliff, and tax rates on everybody, including the rich, including you, will go
up. Is that what you want in order to prove your point that the Republicans
control the House? Methinks you would cut off your nose to spite your face.
Blue: "Ok, how about this; millionaires should pay the same tax rates on all
of their income as I do on all of my income. That would at least be a step in
the right direction."Are you willing to go the other way as
well? It is very easy to single out some rich guy like Mitt Romney who has a low
tax rate because all his income is capital gains and make a blanket statement
that all rich people pay that same low rate.The truth is that the
vast majority of "Rich people" (over $250K income according to
Obama's definition) pay a way higher tax rate than anyone in the middle
class. So if you are willing to have your taxes jacked up to their level, then
welcome to the club.For many years, my effective federal income tax
rate was over 28%. (Total FIT divided by gross income on my tax form filed April
So help me out here conservatives who blindly follow Grover Norquist...This letter writer admits he's NOT part of the 1-2% and wishes he could
be, [I'm also guessing he's not a business or econmic professional]
and yet here he is defending their low tax rate.Meanwhile -- Warren Beffett, Bill Gates as a score of the TRULY 1%, who ARE business
geniuses, who ARE economic professionals, and THEY are the one's out
championing that their tax rates SHOULD go up?!I fail to see what
conservatives see -- but I don't listen to their AM radio greedy
Millionaire hacks jobs, either...
Mike Richards -- Do yourself a favor, Just type, "I
hate Obama."or"I hate all Democrats".Nobody
will dog-pile on you for that.You have your opinions.But, They will however jump all over you for all your off-base rantings,
make-believe rationalizations, delusional world of reality, and twisted and
stretching justifications for it.BTW - How many more years until you
apply for Social Security and Medicare?It is voluntary, you aren't
"forced" to accept it.You might feel "entitled" to it
The whole fight over higher taxes rates for the rich is just a huge distraction,
which so many of you are taking hook, line, and sinker. If you want
the rich to pay more in taxes, tax capital gains at income tax rates, and get
rid of loopholes. Come on, think people. The rate is 35% but the rich are paying
13%. It is the 13% that bugs you, so fix that. Still can't wrap your head
around it? Think of it as a 22% tax hike on the wealthy. Does that
make you feel better? Good, now let's get real.This president
is deceiving the masses. He talks about the rates on the rich fixing the nations
economy. It won't. It is just a distraction to keep you from noticing that
the job market has not recovered 3 years after he declared the recession over.
He has no idea how to make the economy move forward and include all the
available workers. So he blames the rich for his (Obama's) inability to get
people working,earning their living, and dignity.He is an expert at
persuading gullible masses. (Community Organizer/Brainwasher)He has
done a great job on you!
This letter would be hilarious if it were not so tragic. The point Blaine misses
is not that the tax system is out of balance (even though we're
experiencing the least progressive tax rates in decades). The point is that the
corporate system we have allowed to evolve very efficiently funnels wealth to
the top, and in numerous ways: through excessive CEO compensation, through
rewarding speculation rather than production, through debt (which is the most
effective means of transferring wealth from the haves to the have nots), through
productivity improvements (which enable a business to produce the same amount of
product with fewer workers), and through shipping jobs off the Third World
countries. This is only the tip of the iceberg. The fruits of this
system are shouted at us ever couple of months with new statistics showing how
the wealth gap is widening. The only solution acceptable to at least one
political party is a progressive tax code, which is inefficient at best. To
actually attack the root of the problem, we would need to require businesses to
share a proportional piece of profit with those who actually create it (the
Whoa!So now the rich aren't being represented in government?
HUH? You have got to be kidding me! If anything, they're the ONLY ones
being represented! What about me? Joe Sixpack? Who represents me? And now a small tax increase on the rich is suddenly illegal and deserves
litigation? HUH????!!!! I would encourage the letter writer to look up the tax
rates on the rich during the 50s... Or the 70s... Or when Saint Reagan was
President... Or when Clinton was President. Or compare our current tax rates to
those among other industrialized states. You might come away surprised with how
well things are here.The letter writer along with the rich feel so
entitled to the lowest tax rates that they react negatively to even a small tax
increase to pay off 2 wars! Amazing! Where is your patriotism?I have
got an idea so that the "rich" won't be "punished." No more bailouts. No more ag or oil subsidies. Cut the
defense budget in half.No more foreign aid.All oil drilled and/or
refined here must be sold here, NO MORE EXPORTING!!!Single-payer Health
care systemThere ya have it!
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