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Published: Saturday, Dec. 8 2012 11:45 p.m. MST

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East Salt Lake City, Utah


The Utes are a much improved team, but they need some work. They live and die by the three ball.


That's why we dominated the paint 18-6 in the first half?

According to ESPN stats, BYU has shot 170 threes made 53. Utah 164 and made 59. Utah is 17th (48.6) in FG percentage and BYU is 174 (43.4).

I agree though we do need more work. We are young and learning how to win again.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Riddles in the Dark

Do you have any idea how funny your comment is? You said, "motorbike, want some cheese to go with that whine?" Then your very next sentence is, "The Utes got away with mugging Haws during the entire game..."

Whose whining, me or you?


This is for all you posters on here who keep referring to utah as little brother ,U of u was founded by Brigham Young as a university before utah even became a state it was known as the UNIVERSITY OF DESERET, BYU was founded much later as a boys prep school known as BRIGHAM YOUNG ACADEMY it did not become a full fledged university until almost 90 years later therefore the Uof U is the older of the 2 schools therefore they are big brother you people need to study up on your Utah history,and i am a big BYU fan but i,m just getting tired of all you people not telling the truth get over your big brother complex and read the facts before you put your foot in your mouths.



u mad bro?

Real Bass
Idaho Falls, ID

Hey ute fans. SCOREBOARD!!! Again and again!

Surfers Paradise, AU

Meanwhile, Carlino, Haws, Cusick, Zylstra and Winder are all helping build a new wing to the law bldg with all the bricks from last night. What an effort.

Springville, UT

"The message has been sent though, the best basketball school (Utah) in the state is on it's way back!"

Chris B must be mentoring some proteges! LOL

Cottonwood Heights, UT


You wrote "motorbike, u mad bro?"

Answer, not at all, mind me asking what in any of my comments is remotely "mad" sounding?
Sounds to me like someone just needed some attention. Well there you go, you got it bud. Stay classy.

American Fork, UT

The Cougars didn't involve Davies enough in the first half. I like when he gets the ball about 10-15 feet out and goes iso on the post defender. None of them are quick enough to stay with him


The Utes should be proud of how they played slowing BYU down (BYU is ranked 9th in tempo) and it seems more than a fluke as they also beat Boise State who is ranked 71 by Pomeroy's Strength of Schedule (SOS) stats even after losing to Utah. But also kudos to BYU for winning a slow tempo game, should help going forward!

According to Pomeroy's SOS stats BYU is currently ranked 78 and Utah is ranked 194. I'm hoping BYU will get it together enough to move up into March Madness. But I'm pretty confident that Utah will move up higher than 194. The only thing against the Utes is their SOS which is currently only 301st (BYU's SOS is 193, still kind of low). Of course these stats change every week, so we'll have to see how it all plays out.

Good teams make their own luck! I think this year BYU is on the edge of being good and I'm hoping they will be getting better. The Utes clearly are on an upswing this year.

You can find these stats by searching for "2013 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings".

Orem, UT

So does this mean BYU stinks, or that Utah is back?

Gilbert, AZ

Gotta laugh at the kids on the hill whining about not getting calls down the stretch, and then whining about BYU fans simply pointing out that the officials missed calls on both teams.

Bottom line, good teams find ways to win, even when they're not playing particularly well.

BYU tightened the D down the stretch and the Utes folded like a cheap deck of cards.


As far as preseason schedule goes, one thing our friends on the hill are conveniently overlooking is Wilamette (D-III) and College of Idaho (D-II) are so awful, that they won't even count against Utah's SOS or RPI. That's the good news. The bad news, is they won't count in Utah's win column either, so the Utes are essentially throwing away two potential opportunities for wins, to play two exhibition games, which pretty much ensures that the Utes will struggle to finish above .500 in games that count.

Richmond, VA


Thank you for clarifying this silly "big brother, little brother" argument. I think your explanation of the history of these two programs should now settle it once and for all. The Utes are the older big brother and the Cougs are the younger little brother. I'm a huge Cougar fan and I have no problem with that. Besides, it's not demeaning to be a little brother, especially if you get spunky and exceeds the achievements of your big brother.


So does this mean BYU stinks, or that Utah is back?

The answer is Yes and No.

Yes, Utah is back, with an attitude I might say, (which is great for the rivalry) and No, BYU doesn't stink. They just smelled...soooo good after being bloodied on the nose all night long by their mean Big brother! I love the rivalry!

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Good game, nice to see Utah competing again. Nice to see Phoenix concerned about Utah again. Thanks for your continued support. Congrats to the Cougars on a good win.

Down under
Pullman, WA

Utah is the best basketball team in the state? Are you related to Chris B?
Let's look atthe over all record and then look at the last 12 games. Please check the facts before you do your spewing. I give th Utes props for coming up with a great, but dirty, gansta style game plan but in the end a good team will make the adjustment just like BYU did and come out on top. Good luck in the 10.2. it will be a long season.

Mesa Coug
Phoenix, AZ


I think you are confused. If someone called Utah the younger brother your argument wins. Just because Utah is older does not make it bigger. I have a younger brother that has a good 6 inches and 50 pounds on me. I may be the older brother but I am not the bigger brother. See the difference.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Down under

I'm still waiting on the rest of your comment ... you were about to look at overall records between both programs ... you said something about checking facts before spewing forth ... well, go on then, let us know what those "facts" are.

Here's the facts ... Utah is the 12th winningest (if that's a word) program ever and they've had FAR more success in NCAA tournaments than BYU which is the ultimate judge of how good a program is.

Now if you want to talk about the last 10 years then it's absolutely BYU and I'd be silly to say otherwise ... but then that's not what I said.

Lastly, for any that have confused my comments ... props to BYU, they won the game fair and square. Utah is simply showing that they're on an upswing, that's all.

Cedar Hills, UT

I was at the game and the cougs looked soft. The Utes let this one get away.

Even in the Majerus era, these two teams would split games almost every year. The difference is, by tournament time, the Utes were light years ahead of the cougs. Too bad the cougs aren't coming to the HC this year to get the same treatment.

Coach K is the right coach, this team has legitimate talent and they are getting better.

Go Utes!


moderateinmagna - YOU mad bro?

Spokane Ute - LOL

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT


The "soft" Cougs beat the "gangsta" Utes.

In the end, the better team won.

Live with it!

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