Published: Friday, Dec. 7 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
Re: "The 45-mile extension, completed at a cost of nearly $1 billion . . . .
The agency estimates that initial ridership will reach nearly 9,000 a day . . .
."Which comes out to a $111K gift to each of those 9,000 riders.
And that's only the southern extension.Yeah -- there's a
real milestone for ya!I hope those 9,000 riders are happy with the
shiny new billion-dollar toy we bought them.When will Utah wake up?
This useless, dangerous, horribly expensive liberal icon is killing us!
As a Highland Resident working in downtown SLC, I have not been looking forward
to the addition of Frontrunner as a representation of "progress." The
very efficient express busses running on various routes between Utah County and
downtown are full every day, often with commuters standing in the aisles.
Commute time from Highland, a distance of 32 miles to downtown? 43 minutes.
Nearly as good as a car, and with no transfers.The
'progress' brought by Frontrunner as of this Monday? 86 minutes total
commute time with two transfers to accomplish what the Express Bus does in half
the time. Yes, you read that right...Frontrunner doubles the time. My fellow
commuters on the 807 Express Bus have been dreading 12/10/12 for months, and are
disgrundled that our new commute time has created havoc and gross inefficiency
in our daily schedule. No matter how UTA, Deseret News, or anyone else tries to
spin the supposedly 'good news,' for the commuting citizens who are
the ones expected to use the system every day, it has not only just become a
broken promise, it's just plain broken.And those ridership
projections? Time will likely prove they were created in Fantasyland.
How 'bout if we give this a try first before we think it's a broken
"The agency estimates that initial ridership will reach nearly 9,000 a day
"The agency has never had a pie in the sky projection come true.
Except for the numbers of dollars in bonuses that their execs make.
"dennisthemenace" You need to write or call the Guv. and/or your local
elected representatives.Absolutely nothing will be done to make UTA
responsible to anyone unless people contact their elected representatives to let
them know how they feel.UTA has a board of directors who are
appointed by local elected leaders. They are nothing more than a "rubber
stamp" for the bosses (the ones with the 6 figure salaries).UTA
has built rail lines that they can't afford to operate. They WILL continue
to raise fares, which will in turn, diminish ridership, then they'll raise
rates again........UTA's mistake is in thinking that the Wasatch
front is way more urban than it is. The trains they have built would be good if
we had about 4x the population that we have along the Wasatch front.We NEED buses more than trains because they (obviously) go more places.Trains are "neato, and glitzy" and make for good P.R. but
they're not so good for moving people since we are relatively urban.BTW - I predict UTA will ask for another sales tax increase within 2
yrs. or they'll be telling us they'll "park the buses".
"And the value of an efficient rail connection across the length of the
Wasatch Front will only increase as time moves forward."---------------------Ahmmm. Does time ever do -anything- but move
I couldn't agree more with dennisthemenace. I also ride the 807...it's
full (or overfull) everyday. Every single person riding that bus signed a
petition to keep it running.That's 100 percent of your
customers who disagree with what you are doing! UTA held hearings but
didn't listen!Double the commute, double the drive to the train
station, and then getting dropped off 20 minutes away from where you used to be
dropped off.North/South is taken care of, but East/West is a
joke.Thanks UTA...you doubled my commute and driving time.Why not both the 807 and the train? Nobody at UTA will answer that.
Welcome, Utah County, to the enlightened age of transportation in an urban
Wastch Front. Add this to the boon-doggle UDOT charge-for-HOV-lanes that every
taxpayer funded but only the wealthy can afford and you'll see why Utah
hasn't come close to solving the issues it faces. It can only copy other
metro areas.What we need is for UTA and UDOT to be merged and then
maybe they will astart to compliment each other, rather than compete and espouse
kingdom building for themselves.WHERE IS THE LEGISLATURE?????Remember when Herbert was a Utah Couinty Commissioner he wasn't
about to raise sales taxes by a half percent----like Salt Lake, Davis and Weeber
County did decades ago, nor was he willing to stand in line---Utah County had to
have I-15 fixed right away at everyone's expense. Thanks Gary. Then there's UTA...I better quit; I'm getting a headache
thinking about it. (Don't even start with the Feds and their fiscal cliff,
tlaulu,"How 'bout if we give this a try first before we
think it's a broken one."For some people that's too
much to ask. They are looking for things to find fault with and don't get
me started on the unintelligent people who signed the petition to continue the
807 because they think that Frontrunner increases their commute time to downtown
Salt Lake from 43 to 86 minutes or because a 4 to 7 mile drive from a
discontinued 807 stop to a Frontrunner station is unreasonable. That's only
true if you are living in La La Land.There are certain people who
feel a sense of entitlement and who throw temper tantrums when they don't
get what they want. How dare UTA make them drive or carpool 4 to 8 miles? Shame
on UTA for not knowing that they are special and deserve personal valets as
well. Maybe that's the next amenity they will ask for before they expect
UTA to provide personal chauffeurs to their upper class.We need
funding for an East-West chauffeur service for former 807 riders.Maybe us slave folk can get paid to chauffeur them.
You mean to tell me that our repub Utah leadership is just as careless with our
tax dollars as those in DC? You mean to tell me that they listen to rich
campaign donors more than the avg Joe Sixpack? Whooooaaaa! I read
something else that I found was surprising today, the earth is round and the sky
is blue! How about that!
As a taxpayer I think I am getting exhausted with these boondoggles.
So, I've actually appreciated the bus service that preceded this wildly
expensive investment. I've been riding an express bus from Spanish Fork to
SLC that got me to my actual place of work each day in just a little over an
hour. That bus has been scuttled, of course, now that FrontRunner is in
place.I hope FrontRunner works out better for others, but man-oh-man
the commuting aspect of it is much worse than the old busses. First of all my
commute time has actually doubled. From 2.5hrs to 4+hours. Also now we're
packed in, staring people in the face with no storage room. (Busses allow you
to lean back, turn off the lights, and sleep.) The seats are much less
comfortable and don't allow turning on/off lights, air, and other
previously available niceties. Alson, now there is a loud obnoxious speaker
just above our heads in the short ceiling announcing superfluous stops that no
commuter needs to no about.The item that concerns me most, however,
is safety. It was crazy today shuttling 300 people single-file down an icy ramp
to cross multiple train tracks to transfer to "TRAX" with no bridge.
Those who asked for us to try it first, it doesn't take much to read bus
and train schedules and note how long the scheduled commute time is. I told my
wife earlier this week it would add 45 minutes to my 1 hour commute. Now,
I've tried it the first day. I was wrong, it added 1 hour 10 minutes to my
commute this morning. So what was a 1 hour commute has become 2 hours and 10
minutes. Thanks, UTA for knowing how to get to where I need to be in such a
timely and reasonable fashion!
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