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Published: Friday, Dec. 7 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

"Lifestyle" is not the reason I chose not to bring children into this world. Republican "leadership" in a state that has the most toxic pollution in the nation is one reason. Greed-driven leaders and people who have failed to recognize climate change and the impact it will have on future generations is another reason.

Tell your children "this is the world left to you by people who claim to cherish children" and you'll be correct.

Far East USA, SC

I dont understand your concern Jessica. You write

"The fertility rate in order to replace the current population is 2.1. Today the replacement rate globally is 2.33;"

So, by your own admission, the population is increasing.
Had the replacement rate been significantly lower, you may have had a point.

I fail to see the need for exponentially increasing world population.

Ogden, UT

1. A primary reason young couples are putting off parenthood right now is the economy. That's wise; those who cannot afford to provide for children shouldn't have them.

2. We have over 300 million people in this country, double the population of just ~40 years ago. We are in no danger of becoming extinct from a fertility rate a few tenths of a percent below 2.1.

3. "Imagine if your parents had decided the cost of children was not worth it. You would not exist" Logical fallacy. Parents who have 4,5,6 children should then feel guilty about the lives they robbed by not having the 5th,6th,7th child.

4. You could have an interesting discussion about why the "selfish" impulse to not have children is morally worse than the selfish impulse that fuels a successful capitalist economy.

5. Every resource supply problem is made worse by increasing population. Jessica, tell me how you plan on providing water to 6 million Utahns when last year's drought threatened the supply for the current 3 million of us.

6. Give up your per child tax break before dictating the social and economic responsibility of parenthood to us.


It only takes having 1 kid to take your family from adult-centric to kid-centric. Just saying.

Eugene, OR

I'm always a bit confused by people who claim we should live within our means one moment and then try to guilt us into having large families the next. I already have the greatest daughter a man could ask for and if I don't have another, I'm more than happy. Parenthood isn't a contest.

Far East USA, SC

"Parenthood isn't a contest."

KJB1 - Maybe you have never lived in Utah.

The number of children and grandchildren one has certainly can be a competition. I have seen it many times.

Orem, UT

If I chose not to have children largely due to "Republican Leadership" then I would be an embarrassed Utahn as well. I find it amazing how many people's lives are centered on political ideology.

Although the population rate may be slowing, I am not concerned about us going extinct anytime soon. I also try not to criticize people for their decision of whether or not to have children or how many they choose to have. (For some people, they don't have a choice.) Looking down at someone who doesn't have kids as "selfish" or likewise looking down at a large family as "enemies of the environment" is just foolish in my opinion.

I think families are great. Functional families are the best kind. I admire anyone who puts in the time, effort, and love necessary to raise good kids even though the outcome is never guaranteed.


We need to have as many kids as we have room on the rear window of our SUV's to put family members stickers on.

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

Whether or not you marry and have a family is your own choice. But what you give to your children you may have need in getting in return in your old age. This includes monetary support (SS and more), help with meals, bathing, changing your diapers, etc.

I hope those who have not bothered investing in children have other ways they have prepared for their future.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Honestly, I doubt many people make the deeply personal decision to have children or not have children because of the impact it will have on public policy. How about instead we don't judge the way other folks choose to live their lives?


Christian 24-7 makes a good point. Have kids, lots of them, and at least one of them should be nice enough to take care your old, worn out body :)

Ogden, UT

Christian 24-7
Children as retirement plans and adult diaper-changers, huh? Very noble.

Salt Lake City, UT

"The fertility rate in order to replace the current population is 2.1. Today the replacement rate globally is 2.33; conversely, we were at a 4.95 replacement rate in the 1950s. Continuing this trend will eliminate our population."

Uh... the replacement rate is how many kids you need to maintain the population. Going from a replacement rate of 4.95 to 2.33 shows that we have vastly improved in areas like preventing infant mortality. I think the argument the letter writer wants is that the birth rate has declined.

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

Just saying people provide for their declining years in different ways. Those who don't have children should have a lot of money they saved by not having those kids so they should be prepared to pay someone for these services. That is way okay with me.

Please don't leave it to the government. They will do a lousy job for you, and I would rather spend my hard earned resources on raising my family than spend it on higher taxes.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

My wife and I struggle for many years in our early marriage with infertility.

I'll never for the ire we endured back then,
the judgement by others,
the caustic attitude, - about our "selfishness"....like somehow we had a choice in the matter.

30 years and 4 children later, we've been "blessed",
but YES, I'm still bitter by how were treated during that time.

Judge not...

Hank Pym

Why am I reminded of the movie Idiocracy?

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

The problem isn't having kids.

The problem is that people like Jessica refuse to shoulder the costs of motherhood and child upbringing.

We're dead last in per-pupil funding per student. And yet, people like Jessica want MORE kids into the system?

How about we figure out a way to pay for the kids we already have first.

Deep Space 9, Ut

It is funny to hear the liberals make all of their claims about having many kids. They think that kids are not a retirement plan, yet that is precisely how SS was set up. The liberals figured that people would have large families, so that there would be many workers for each retired person.

Also those who say that they don't want many kids for economic reasons are typically just big kids. The fact is you don't need a huge house to raise a lot of kids. As long as you have money to feed, clothe, and house your kids that is the primary responsibility. Kids don't need flashy gadgets and toys. 4 wheelers and campers are optional.

Ogden, UT

You are making a litany of bizarre accusations and assumptions that have little to do with anything anyone has posted here today. Off in deep space, I suppose.

Casa Grande, AZ

Is this another High School assignment they don't really believe but have to do?

If you look into it more than the assumptions of the letter the world's population will probably reach 10 billion and then level off. Where in the world do you get the idea the population is going to decline any time soon?

Birthrate has a lot to do with progress. Look up a TED talk or two and learn before burning the electrons. At least no trees were harmed with such a pointless and erroneous assumption.

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