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Published: Thursday, Dec. 6 2012 10:22 a.m. MST

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briggsy81
Saint George, UT

Can somebody tell Tom Holmoe to stop embarrassing Cougar Nation?

Solomon the Wise
Alpine, UT

Would somebody please tell the major college football "haves" that they are a complete joke?

There's no logic or fairness in giving a bottom dweller in any conference a greater share of playoff revenue than programs that have been perennial Top 25 teams.

The only people who should be embarrassed are fans who support this kind of greed.

Y-Ask-Y?
Provo, UT

What did I tell you?

Going Indy was a bad, bad decision!

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

It is what it is. You gotta play the big boys week in and week out to get the big boy money.

byU "fans":

You are hear by banned from using the term "perennial top 25" in referring to your football program. You are either a top 25 team or you're not. I know that my "perennials" come up every year. Has byU football been ranked in the top 25 every year? No.

Glad we could clear this up.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

Who cares? Doesn't BYU get $4 mill a year from having their own ESPN T.V. deal anyway?

Correct me if I'm wrong . . . But I didn't think finances were an issue for BYU.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

The BCS isn't dead; it just had a name change. Its not too late to get in on the big money. Join the Big East as their 16th team.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@utahcountyute

"You are hear by banned from using the term "perennial top 25"

What does that even mean? "hear by"? We can't "hear' it? Huh?

As far as "perennial" is concerned, well according to Webster's one of the definitions of "perennial" is "recurring regularly". Well BYU certainly "regularly" is in the top 25. They finsihed in the top 25 for 5 of the last 8 years and were at one point ranked in the top 25 this year and 3 years ago even though they didn't finish there. That's pretty much the definition of "perrenial" or "recurring regularly".

I'll tell you what we should ban. We should ban utah "fans" from claiming that playing teams like colorado, washington st or cal somehow adds "strength" to their schedule. Those teams are horrible. we should also ban all utah "fans" from somehow claiming the accomplishments of great schools like usc, ucla, and oregon somehow make utah good when in fact utah hasn't had a winning record in any sport at all in the pac12. Just being beaten up by great schools regularly doesn't make utah a great school.

U 90
Corona, CA

The $200k bowl payout shouldn't be an issue because all that really matter is more exposure.

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

Ducky

Thanks for the clarification.

I know, and not having a conference and losing to San Jose State and the team you are bagging on is much better. lol

"were at one point ranked in the top 25 this year and 3 years ago even though they didn't finish there"

So does this year count or not? hmmmmm I guess it all gets figured into byU "fan" fuzzy math to determine said perennial top 25ness.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

Y-Ask-Y?

"What did I tell you?

Going Indy was a bad, bad decision!"

Even if the ONLY thing you cared about was money, being an Independent is much, much better than staying in the MWC and the Big East may not be much better.

Being an Independent gives BYU the opportunity to schedule Boise State, Texas, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Utah, and Wisconsin ALL in the same year. That would never be possible in any conference.

Being an Independent gives BYU the flexibility to re-broadcast BYU games whenever BYU chooses.

Being an Independent guarantees that EVERY BYU home game will be nationally televised.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@u90

Good point, not to mention BYU is getting paid by whatever bowl they are going to be playing in anyway, unlike utah which is not playing in a bowl game this year and will probably not play in many in the future so they need to be subsidized by the teams that actually do play in bowls.

If Holmoe can get a few more dollars out of the cartel then good for him, if not BYU runs in the black anyway so it is no big deal.

Riddles in the Dark
Olympus Cove, Utah

utahcountyute

Eighteen Top 25 finishes in the last 35 years IS being a PERENNIAL Top 25 team by anybody's definition except our jealous little friends on the hill.

For our "mighty" little brothers from the PAC 12 who didn't even crack the AP poll until 1994, that's a tough pill to swallow, but that's just the way it is.

As has been stated by other bloggers, BEING a ranked team is much more important than beating a ranked team, because it establishes national credibility for an ENTIRE season, not just a single game.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

"Eighteen Top 25 finishes in the last 35 years IS being a PERENNIAL Top 25 team"
$200,000.00 per year

"For our "mighty" little brothers from the PAC 12 who didn't even crack the AP poll until 1994, that's a tough pill to swallow"
$3,300,000.00 per year

Yes. A tough multi-million dollar pill to swallow.

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

SoonerUte

Being a perennial bottom-dweller with great facilities (which is this only thing your $millions will buy U), is nothing to beat your chest about.

Those golden chips won't be so tasty when you're enjoying them from the comfort of your couch potato bowl.

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

Since BYU never needs anyone else, maybe Duckhunter can get them to refund the U the amounts that BYU was paid for the two BCS bowl games that Utah played in while both were members of the MWC.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

"Since BYU never needs anyone else, maybe Duckhunter can get them to refund the U the amounts that BYU was paid for the two BCS bowl games that Utah played in while both were members of the MWC."

Only after U refund all of the money U received from BYU's bowls and BYU fans helping to fill RES every other year from the mid-70's to the mid-90's.

Of course, if that were to occur retroactively, the Utes probably wouldn't even have a football program because they certainly weren't making enough to survive on their own...

so your point is moot.

btw, by the time Utah's bcs bowl pie was divided up between all of the other non-AQ programs, it really wasn't that much.

BYU takes in substantially more for one home game at LES than they ever got from Utah's meager bowl money.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

New Big East television deal estimated at around $60 million per year.

$4 million for each full member football school
$3 million for each football only member
$1 million for each full-member non-football school

MWC schools get about $1 million each

BYU makes $6-7 million through it's exclusive contract with ESPN.

You do the math.

BYU would be foolish to give up Independence for anything less than a Big 12 invitation.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@utahcountyute

Yes this year counts, as does 3 years ago. If you are ranked in the top 25 then you are ranked in the top 25. I'm not sure how you can dispute that. So that means that in the last 8 years they have been ranked in the top 25 in 7 of them. Sounds pretty "perrenial" to me. Now we can laos accurately say that utah is NOT a perrneial top 25 team as they have only even entered the ranking less than half of the time.

Funny but utah fans tell us all of the time about how winning a couple of bowl games garnered utah so much respect but it still doesn't help to get them ranked. BYU on the otherhand, with 40 years of succes, can usually get ranked just by starting tih a couple of wins. The voters expect BYU to be good and it doesn't take much for them to start voting BYU into the rankings. Just a poerk of being an actual legacy program, utah "fans" wouldn't understand that.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@54-10

I'm sure BYU wouldn't miss that few hundred thousand dollars. You do realize that is all it was don't you? Both years combined didn't even get them a million, just a few hundred thousand. I mean thanks, I'm sure we're all grateful but it really didn't change any lives or for that matter make much of a difference at all.

U 90
Corona, CA

Duckhunter,

I try to help you out by towing the BYU line of exposure and all you want to do is talk about Utah football and subsidies. Sure was nice of Utah to subsidize BYU with a little BCS cash in 2004 and 2008 since the Y has none of their own BCS $. Maybe one of the reason BYU football is in the black is because of all the Utah bowl money sent their way over the last 9 years.

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