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Published: Thursday, Dec. 6 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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cjb
Bountiful, UT

What are we getting for our investment in sending so many people to prison. Judging from the crime rate compared to other countries not much.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

A few years back I had the opportunity to sit in a couple of third distric coutrooms for a couple of hours at a time and was shocked that 99.9% of all the cases were drug cases. Most were hearings of one kind or another so I didn't hear many of the details of how the folks got into the system but somehtings really wrong when an addiction problem swamps our legal system like this one does.

one old man
Ogden, UT

This flies in the face of what Utah's legislators who belong to the a shady outfit called ALEC are being urged to to.

The American Legislative Exchange Council is a collection of extreme right wing people and organizations that "advise" state and local lawmakers on the kinds of laws they think should be written.

One of ALEC's prime pushes is for privatization of prisons -- in other words, prisons run for profit. They also are urging even more and longer mandatory minimum sentences for a wide variety of crimes -- mostly non-violent crimes.

One of the types of crime the do not list, however, are white collar fraud. Gotta protect their brethren, after all.

Grover
Salt Lake City, UT

This is just another of the topics that never get talked about in our society even during election periods. We pay an enormously higher amount for healthcare, national defense and for prisons and no one seems to care to ask "why?' When we had more money than the rest of the world, the answer was "because we can afford it." No more. We need to get back to looking at the cost benefit ratio. Trying a different approach to the drug problem is a no brainer, but apparently we have no brains.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

one old man
Ogden, UT

This flies in the face of what Utah's legislators who belong to the a shady outfit called ALEC are being urged to to.

The American Legislative Exchange Council is a collection of extreme right wing people and organizations that "advise" state and local lawmakers on the kinds of laws they think should be written.

One of ALEC's prime pushes is for privatization of prisons -- in other words, prisons run for profit. They also are urging even more and longer mandatory minimum sentences for a wide variety of crimes -- mostly non-violent crimes.

Agreed --
Businessmen want to privatize and commercialize everything-
Public Transportaion,
Public Works [Power, Sewer, Water, road maintenance, ect.]
Public education,
Law Enforcement,
and "low risk" prisons

...all for profit!

This is Gadianton 101.
This is how "they" manage and control the Government, for GAIN $$$.

And Utah Republicans [many of them good Latter-Day Saints] are all for it!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Utah Gov. Cal Rampton was also a ...Democrat.

Before the switch,
Before the Fall.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Agreed --
Businessmen want to privatize and commercialize everything-
Public Transportaion,
Public Works [Power, Sewer, Water, road maintenance, ect.]
Public education,
Law Enforcement,
and "low risk" prisons

...all for profit!

This is Gadianton 101.
This is how "they" manage and control the Government, for GAIN $$$.

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Reminds me of the Italian Mafia who own the all the auto-body repair shops.

If they see a pristine car parked on the road, it's scratched and dented within minutes.
Ooops!
How did that happen?!

That's why you see all the cars throughout Italy scratched and dented.
People get tired of having them in the shop and just give up.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Too bad we can't build even more prisons for a "war on white collar crime".

There's too much focus on weather or not a white collar crime had intent to do the damage it did or if it was technically "legal". If I kill a pedestrian accidentally I'll still go to jail for manslaughter.

So I propose new sentences for lie-slaughter, economic damage-slaughter and my congressman-made it legal but it's still wrong slaughter.

Let's fill those jails and build a few more.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Airnaut, excellent example.

Greed just ends up getting them less business by making it completely normal and acceptable to have a dented and scratched up car.

Big dummies. Every major religion of the world thinks greed is bad. Republicans think it's good.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

Legalize drugs, but ban firearms?

That's the message I've been hearing more and more of late.

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