Published: Wednesday, Dec. 5 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
@Maverick,Contrary to what you said, the Governor is not
automatically going to get that 36.5% pay raise. That was the amount
recommended by the State Compensation Commission. It has to be voted upon and
approved by the State Legislature.Furthermore, IF he gets that
raise, it will NOT be paid from borrowed money like they do back in Washington
DC. It will be paid for by State Revenue that will already be "placed the
Utahbluedevil: We are not talking about Clinton and the balanced budgets of the
1990s. We are talking about Obama and his presidency. He has failed to produce
a budget that garnered a single vote in Congress in 2012. The Democratic Senate
has failed to produce a budget in 4 years.The debt that Obama is
creating is huge. How can you possible bring up Clinton and balanced budgets
when we are not talking about anything remotely close to a balanced budget? To get balance we must have spending reductions and tax increases.
Republicans have agreed to tax increases so long as Obama will get serious about
reduced spending. But Obama won't write up anything dealing with spending
reductions until after signing a bill to increase taxes. Sounds like Pelosi
saying the ACA must be voted on first before it can be read to see what is
inside.I don't believe Obama has any intention of reducing
spending unless it hurts military, Wall Street and banks.
Money is debt, period. How come everybody argues about the debt as if something
can change? Our monetary system is debt based and if no one is willing to change
our monetary system then it is like a dog chasing its own tail.
@mountainman - since you have this all figured out, how well would the economy
exactly would have done should we have, oh say, let 2 of the 3 auto manufactures
gone out of business, that banks had been prevented from doing any lending
because they were operating below their reserve rate, and little projects like
the I15 projects not been funded..... what would the economic numbers be since
you seem to have them... and can say with all confidence the stimulus funds had
no effect.....You have those... right? You're not just
relying on web blog blather, and talk radio non-senese. Were looking for some
real solid data to back your claims.... you have those - right?
Republicans have no record of lower the deficit. Obama's spending was to
prevent the economic catastrophe produced by GWB.
Dick Cheney said 'Reagan showed that deficits don't matter'. The
debt tripled under Reagan. It doubled under Bush. Republicans are no more
responsible with our money than democrats.
For decades southern Europeans were lied to by their governments about their
sovereign debt and not to worry. Then reality struck. Our course is hauntingly
similar. Democrats and Republicans only face reality only when the other party
is in power.
Barack made many promises before he was elected the first time. He promised we
would be out of war in 6 months-they are negotiating how to keep troops in
longer. He promised to close Gitmo-It's still open. He promised to heal the
planet-The US has become a greater exporter of oil. He promised our taxes will
not go up-they have. He promised we could keep our doctor-that turned out to be
false. He called a white officer in Cambridge "acted stupidly" and
"history of racism" to heal the nation-he was wrong. He rallied to
defend Trayvon Martin, then walked away when crimes of black on white came to
the forefront.Even his own base is unhappy with him. Yet they get
locked in step and march to their leaders drums. No matter what. Can't use
their own brains. But his base is made up of bottom dwellers whose only goal in
life is to take as much as they can, and wait for the collapse of this once
great nation.Last words. "The arguement that we are the richest
country so therefore...." no longer is true. We are the most indebted
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