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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 4 2012 1:02 p.m. MST

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Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

This advice from the man who sent his Secretary of Homeland Security to The Hill to lobby for amnesty. The one man charged with keeping illegals OUT was pitching a plan to help them stay.
There never was a labor shortage. At a time when 6.8 million illegals were working (2007) we had over 10 million teens age 15-17 who could have been working but were not.
Not to mention the 22 million adults with lower skills (ages 18-64 with no college) who were not working.
The real problem is that cheap labor trumps employing our own citizens.
And the potential higher wages really wouldn't increase prices at the grocery store or the new subdivision.

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

It should be noted that the "best and brightest" message would apply to our immigration policy of 1925-1965.
It cannot be claimed with a straight face that the typical illegal alien is anything more than a low-skilled worker. They are not job creators and should not be considered as such. A cursory look at the source countries of our green card holders would yield similar results. That's what happens when your immigrant pool is dominated by chain migration, aka family unification.
In other words, let's stop looking at them as the next Google CEO.

ModerateBob
Salt Lake City, UT

Apparently Xenophobia is alive and well in Mapleton.

I absolutely agree with W's comments. Yes, I am advocating for amnesty, in the form of the Dream Act.

Your assertion that Illegal Immigration is limited to low skilled workers is ignoring all of the technology related jobs that are currently being done by people who have overstayed their visas. Our entire system needs to be overhauled.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Glaringly absent from (whatever,whoever)brings up changing immigration laws is ANY talk about enforcement.

We never have had any kind of adequate enforcement, either for green card holders, or simply illegal alien trespassers.

Why should we believe a "new" law will be any better enforced than the "old" law?

Why not get to a point where we have some semblance of ENFORCEMENT of our current laws, rather than always be trying to change the law?

BTW - it is the various lobbying groups for small business that keep trying to bring this issue up. They (obviously) feel their dollars are better spent lobbying than actually paying the prevailing wages!

SLars
Provo, UT

The majority of immigrant started business fails in the first year, compared to 5 years for American started business. The facts are half truths and twisting the truth. Using immigrant for legal and illegal is troubling. Have we forgotten the difference?

We already give out over 1.5 million visas each year to highly skilled people that replace American highly skilled people. 3.3 million work visas each year, over a million green cards (with the majority going to poor relatives). Over 4.5 million last year, plus 12 million here illegally, it's out of control.

23 million Americans looking for full time work.

Business is out of control filling our country with cheap labor. Respect and have compassion for your fellow countrymen. The lack of respect the past 30 years has depressed our wages and created a greater divide between rich and poor.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

The way to do it is go after the employers. Then you will just have an illegal consumer problem buying hamburgers and groceries while here illegally.

And if they can't get a job, why would they come? They won't risk their lives for a Disneyland vacation.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

We will never fix this problem without an atmosphere of enforcement.
First we have politicians, police chiefs and preachers acting as though they haven't broken the law.
The likelihood of being caught and deported is almost nil.
As long as crime pays there will be no change in behavior.

RichardB
Murray, UT

"America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time," Bush said Tuesday.

We are lawful by enforcing our laws, and we welcome more people here legally than any other country. Enforcement first, on the border and in the cities, and with teeth to go after business. Then a discussion could take place.

GDub sounds like a speech writer. Not the bumbling President he use to be.

worf
Mcallen, TX

If we could fix corrupt governments, people wouldn't be coming.

Like France, Spain, and Greece,--it won't be long till our rich (the backbone of our economy), starts leaving for greener pastures. High corporate taxes has begun the trend, and with new taxes on the horizon, we may become a third world country. Yikes! who'se going to pay off the debt, and provide our welfare state?

Will we see massive riots when our government can no longer provide benefits? Will our people leave, and become illegal immigrants somewhere?

May our liberal friends get what they voted for.

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