Happy Valley Heretic,Ted Kennedy, Nancy Polosi, Hairy Reed, Barry
Obama.--Nothing trickling down from these people, and we still face economic
uncertainty. Why don't liberals complain of these folks being greedy like
they do Romney?Twisting, and spinning facts can fool alot of
people:* Thomas Jefferson is not here to defend himself from the
spins of liberals.* John Kennedy was a patriot who would give his life
for the country* Ronald Reagan knew the backbone of our economics laid
with the rich, and didn't condemn hard work, and success as greed.
@ worf Thomas Jefferson had affairs with his slaves, John Kennedy had
Affairs, and Ronald Reagan had Iran Contra and trickle down, Trickle down
being the biggest legacy we are still trying to right.America is
great.When we aren't deluding ourselves with fantastical visions of
Tolstoy,There are varying degrees of trustworthy. With that,
I'd say George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy
Roosevelt, John Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan. They are on the upper end of the
scale. For you, the last one is Ronald Reagan.
@worfcuriosity question Worf, who exactly do you believe was the last
Short term memory & things forgotten:* Benghazi*
simplifying the tax code* national champions a year ago* Merry
Christmas* Constitution* three month summer vacation*
Revolutionary War* fast & furious* Children bringing a lunchbox
to school* Twenty cent a gallon gas* fifteen cent hamburger*
balanced federal budget* children having both a dad and mom to come home
to* school emphasizing learning over testing* political leaders
being trustworthy, and truthfulAmerica is great, when America is
That should read, How about we get rid of all the ones you get to take advantage
of, not just the ones you don't like: Child deduction, home mortgage
Now I'm ilk and trolling pages? Apparently you do not do the same.I agree with you: You take advantage of the tax breaks you are
"entitled" to take, i.e., the child deduction. That is a government
entitlement. Your argument can be applied to everyone who takes advantage of
certain government entitlements. How about we get rid of all of them, not just
the ones you get to take advantage of?
To "xscribe" you can assume whatever you want about me. Odds are you
are wrong because I have seen your ilk trolling these pages for a long time.As for my taxes, all I have to say is that I follow the example of
Obama, George Sorros, and Warren Buffett. They claim that the wealthy should
pay more in taxes, yet year after year pay only what the they are required to by
law after taking all of the tax breakes available.
@Redshirt: Is that an unbaised opinion? Can I assume you are a Democrat? Or
would that be a biased opinion as something other than a democrat?@Mountanman and Redshirt: Can I assume you have always opted out of the child
tax credit and student loans and any of the other entitlements people don't
really think about? If you have used these, then one would have to start
questioning your credibility. Unless you believe those entitlements are okay,
but others are not.
VST is most likely correct. The republicans come to the table with the same
plan that went nowhere before; Obama submits a ridiculous plan akin to a used
car salesman, starting high and then go lower if needed. Here's a novel
thought: Compromise! And don't leave the table until both sides give up a
Watching the GOP and Obama go at it you really begin to wonder why people
elected Obama. The GOP has a reasonable (not perfect) plan that will raise tax
revenues, simplify the tax code, and start to fix entitlements, and Obama just
keeps saying that we need to raise the rate. The rate doesn't matter much
if there are so many loopholes that an increased rate can be negated. Cut the
loopholes, and you effectively increase the tax rate.
I have been waiting in vain for Obama and any Democrat to explain how we are
going to pay for their ever expanding entitlements. So far, Obama has clamored
for taxing the "rich" even more, but that will only increase revenues
enough to run the government for less than 10 days. So please Democrats, tell us
how we are going to pay for the other 355 entitlement days?
I'm beginning to believe that this was all a ploy to paint us into a corner
that would require us to take tax increases and allow Washington to raise the
debt ceiling.Neither party is serious about cutting costs. They begin by
talking about Social Security cuts and throwing the poor under the bus.Heaven forbid they cut salaries and pensions for federal workers. Or slash
senate staffs (about $2 million a year per senator.)Or stop sending child
tax credits to illegal aliens.They have no idea how to live within their
means. And apparently they don't care.