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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 4 2012 12:40 p.m. MST

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Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

@Utes Fan
What you describe is as you wrote "raw reality". However, if employers were allowed to use that as an excuse, then we wouldn't have vacations, Social Security, FICA, and other benefits that we as society have decided all human beings need in order to maintain a decent standard of living.

I don't know anyone in the planet who is free of medical needs. We as a nation are evolving into a more just society. Of course it has a price tag, everything does.

The article is not about economics, is about freedom. We live in a democracy. Therefore, freedom for the majority and all should be our goal.

Entrepreneurs also have the choice of going into business of their own or not. I can assure you that there are plenty of people who are not afraid and know that Health Care is fair and they could manage it. Many of them are sitting this one out for now, until their "selfish interest" tells them if they can get away without providing Health Insurance or that is not an option. Once is decided and there is no choice businesses will adapt.

raybies
Layton, UT

Who in America is being oppressed by religion?

We have a nasty habit in our country of dismissing any topic in public discussion that has any association with religious values.

Just because an argument has religious association doesn't mean it should be ignored. That's lazy and self-destructive thinking.

Tandrews
Petersburg, VA

I think that as a business owner if I have a problem with providing services to customers or employees that are against my religious convictions, I should have the right to do so. If my employee wants coverage for abortions or contraception, then they should have the option to pay for it. I shouldn't be forced to pay it for them.

In this manner my religious convictions and theirs are both protected.

Secondly, as a person of faith who is also a business owner I shouldn't have to be subjected to public demonization because I contribute or support causes that support my beliefs.

Just as someone who does not belong to a religious group does not wish to have religion shoved down their throat, neither should I when it comes to secular rhetoric. If people of varying faiths wish to have an open dialogue of understanding and shared beliefs, than that is one thing. But stop using bully tactics because I don't agree with you.

You can disagree with a person and their decisions and still love them on both sides of the table.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

Is there no issue left that hairsplitting over what's politically correct doesn't obfuscate the issue itself? Absolutely not, and I think that's a sign that freedom of religion is stronger than it ever has been. So let Rick Warren and others continue their ridiculous rants about how much trouble we're in.

Free Agency
Salt Lake City, UT

As a gay non-Christian who's in favor of the right to abortion (though I wish people would perrsonally reconsider, in most cases, having them), I'm totally supportive of any religion's right not to have to violate its beliefs in the public arena. For example, not having to issue contraceptives or else lose Federal funding. And not having to perform gay marriages or else lose such funding too.

But these religions also need to reciprocate that respect, by not trying to impose their beliefs on others, via political activism to, e.g., keep gay from getting married. (Didn't Rick Santorum, a devout Catholic, also want to make contraceptives illegal for everyone? Or did I get that wrong?)

When the Pope calls homosexuality disordered and his church acts accordingly in political activities, as do other religions, they're doing exactly what they don't want done to them: trying to force their one beliefs on others.

There's a preventative for that and every religion knows it well: it's called the Golden Rule.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

As long as the Westboro Baptist Church can still have judges rule in their favor to do the nonsense they do... I'm not concerned about religious freedom being under attack. Ever notice that roughly 530-535ish of the 538 members in the House and Senate belong to one religion or another?

Balstrome
Durban, 00

Christian Privileges for Holidays & Holy Days:

* Many stores take the Christian sabbath into account
* Most Christians don’t have to work on their holiest days
* Christians can assume they will see TV specials and hear music related to their holidays
* Christians can erect Christian holiday displays without fearing vandalism
* Christians expect to be greeted with references to their holidays (Merry Christmas)
* Christians can ignore and be ignorant of other religions’ holidays
* School events will probably address Christian holidays

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