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Letter: Call to action: Reach out to unbound electors on behalf of Mitt Romney

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  • What is the truth? Sandy, UT
    Dec. 4, 2012 1:33 p.m.

    I have to laugh about how Benghazi shows that the President doesn't support our Armed Forces. YO! who do you think cut the budget for Embassy security?

    Conservatives are SO entitled. They like to think they don't have to pay taxes but still want all the services the government supplies.

  • homebrew South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 4, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    Hey dillusional,, The election is over. Our president Barack Obama won. I know its hard for you, Karl Rove, Fox news, and Glen Beck to understand. But you know what? We dont care what you think. Take your dillusion, and secceed. BYE BYE

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    Dec. 3, 2012 6:25 p.m.

    There's a phrase for what this article proposes, it's called a coup d'etat. Yeah, keep calling yourselves patriots....

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 3, 2012 4:04 p.m.

    @Redshirt1701
    "According to people who grew up in Germany when Hitler was coming to power, Obama sounds a lot like Hitler."

    I was considering giving a more substantive response but then I realized the loonier conservatives sound, the better it is for liberals like me so... please proceed.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 10:33 p.m.

    @mark

    "Some ideas are in dire need of mocking and derision."

    Yes, since this is your only hope of effectively neutralizing a bounty of evidence of widespread voter fraud of every type among Obama supporters.

    "...if the electoral college voted Romney in, after President Obama won the electoral collage... it would indeed be overturning a election."

    The Electoral College has not yet officially voted Obama in. How then can an election be "overturned" if it has not yet taken place?

    Again, reason is on my side, and on the letter-writer's side; this is why you have only mockery to present to the discussion.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Dec. 2, 2012 8:57 p.m.

    Re:Christian24-7
    "Clinton bombed Kosovo, Serbia, and Iraq. The death toll of Clinton's presidency was thousands more than Bush junior. (Snopes)"

    False

    From Snopes website:
    "Even though the CRS table does not include loss figures for the last two years of George W. Bush's presidency, the total number of U.S. military losses that have occurred during his administration is already significantly higher than the equivalent figure for Bill Clinton's presidency (8,792 vs. 7,500). When active duty deaths for 2007 and 2008 are factored in (the Pentagon has not yet released figures for these two years, but the U.S. suffered 1,014 war deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2007 and at least another 100 so far in 2008), the discrepancy is even greater. "

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 1:45 p.m.

    Anti-liar, you are absolutely correct, I don't care if the Republicans ever seat another president. In fact I hope they don't, as long as they remain in the grip of the tea party and the extremists in this country. Nothing could make me happier to see today's Republican Party consigned to the dust bin of history, right where they belong.

    Some ideas are in dire need of mocking and derision. Any comparison of our current president to Hitler or any other dictator falls squarely in that category. As do claims that President Obama will try to run for a third term, or claims of voter fraud as being the reason he won this relaxation. Any one making such claims deserves to be heckled and laughed out of the room.

    And, hate to tell you, if the electoral college voted Romney in, after President Obama won the electoral collage, as well as the popular vote, it would indeed be overturning a election. Any suggestion otherwise decidedly deserves to be roundly mocked and scorned.

    But, again, please go with the plan. Please, please Republicans push it. John Bohener, please, please go for it. Please.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 1:01 a.m.

    @mark

    You're demonstrating my point, Mark. People who fear and seek to squelch truth, often mock it -- as you are doing, yet again.

    And how do I know that's true? By your untruthful use of the phrase, "overturning an election" Ironic, considering the term "Electoral College" -- "Electoral" being the OPERATIVE term. But then again I'm sure you already know that, Mark

    "Keep doing stuff like this and you will never seat another president."

    Like you would care, Mark. Yes, yes... fear-mongering is yet another tool in the propagandist's toolbox.

    If only the Electoral College would do as the letter-writer has suggested. Then perhaps future presidential aspirants would learn that they won't get away with pull-out-all-the stops voter fraud should THEY attempt to steal an election.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2012 7:14 p.m.

    "Don't you wonder what his is after? Maybe power? Or??? Why is it a secret?"

    Yes, you are absolutely correct, "Christian", President Obama is trying to conquer the world, we all believe you, don't we guys? Yes that's right, we believe you. It's okay. . . Okay, everybody move towards the door really slowly, no sudden movements, that's the way . . . Those guys in white coats, "Christian"? They are here to help you. . . No, no, we really believe you, Obama the Great, out to conquer the world. We believe you. Really.

  • Christian 24-7 Murray, UT
    Dec. 1, 2012 5:26 p.m.

    Bush senior invaded Iraq.

    Clinton bombed Kosovo, Serbia, and Iraq. The death toll of Clinton's presidency was thousands more than Bush junior. (Snopes)

    Bush took us to Iraq, a hot bed for 3 presidencies in a row. And you think there were no reasons? But beloved Clinton did it too. How do you explain that?? He moved some operations to Afghanistan in search of Bin Laden and the Taliban.

    Obama drastically escalated operations in Afghanistan and initiated operations in Pakistan. To finish the job of getting Bin Laden, you say? Yes (and that justifies Bush going after him too), but Bin Laden is dead and the Taliban is running with its tail between its legs (according to the Obama admin). So why are we still there?? Why are we still in Iraq? Obama promised we would be out. Lie!!! He as also waged war in Libya and Yemen, and escalated the proxy war in Somalia.

    So who is the war monger here? The beloved Obama. See him as he really is.

    Don't you wonder what his is after? Maybe power? Or??? Why is it a secret? Our men and women are dying for what? The public deserves to know.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2012 9:26 a.m.

    "Christian" 24-7

    So you think that President Obama has an evil plan to racially cleanse and take over the world. Really? Hohkay. I'm just going to move really slowly and quietly here, no sudden movements. . .

    By the way, there is a pile of tin foil hats over there, you may just want to help yourself to another.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 1, 2012 9:14 a.m.

    "When I see such urgent mockery ("tin-foil hat," etc.) it is a sure sign some Obama-loving liberals are running scared, just a smidgen worried that this could happen."

    Anti-liar, worried this could happen? Really? Please, oh please get a conservative movement that tries to do this. Please organize a conservative republican group that pushes this, and make it very, very public. Get your press releases going, work your hardest to try to get a republican movement to push this hard. Oh please, please try to do it!

    First secessionist, then trying to overturn an election, keep it up guys. The Republican Party will be history. Keep doing stuff like this and you will never seat another president.

    So, yes, please do it.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Dec. 1, 2012 8:45 a.m.

    re: Christian 24-7 4:56 p.m. Nov. 30, 2012

    I, too, am glad for term linits. Otherwise, Dick & george would have invaded Iran, Syria, Egypt, Tunisia, Nigeria (oil), Brazil (oil), Venezuela (oil), etc...

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:51 p.m.

    You know it would almost be worth having Willard be President to get rid of the Electoral College. This would be the quickest way to do that that I can think of.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 6:53 p.m.

    If you can't win an election fair and square, then steal it.

    Sounds like one of those Utah Values to me.

  • Christian 24-7 Murray, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 4:56 p.m.

    The Hitler arguments kill me. Was he right or left wing? You can argue either way.

    Shortly after Obama took office, PBS had a special on the rise of the WWII dictators. I was shocked at the parallels from Hitler in the early 30's and the Obama approach to governing.
    Hitler took a country in a deep depression and instituted massive social programs. Sound familiar? Then, when he had bought everyone's loyalty, he used that loyalty to proceed with his evil plan to racially cleanse and take over the world. Mussolini also instituted massive social programs to buy himself more power.

    I am sure Obama has studied these men. I just hope that the evil plan doesn't appear in Obama's second term, and I am grateful for term limits.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Nov. 30, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    Redshirt1701 12:11 p.m.Nov30
    Obama sounds a lot like Hitler.

    ---

    Really?

    Who's Anti-;
    abortions, drugs, liberals, communists, homosexuals, immigrants, Unions and the so-called "Takers" of Society?

    Who insists America is a Christian Nation?

    Who's Pro-
    Business, War, Military, Invasion, Occupy and torture policies?

    Hitler, a Liberal? then why did he gas Liberals, Communists and Socialists?
    {don't tell me you fell for the old "National Socialist" misnomer. Any intelligent person judges on facts and data,
    not pseudo-labels.
    The Nazis were rightwing Fascists. Deal with it.}
    ===============

    @Mountanman
    Hayden, ID 2:48 p.m.
    So those of us who want real answers from our government are comedians? I wonder why?

    [Let me see…Weapons of Mass Destruction?, 7,000 dead?, $3Trillion spent? 10 years later, I'm still not laughing. Maybe it's because Republican comedians aren't funny at all.]

    ==============

    @anti-liar
    SLC, UT 3:20 p.m.
    When I see such mockery ("tin-foil hat," etc.) it is a sure sign liberals are running scared...

    [Running scared?
    Is that "denialism" or "projecting" - I'm sure, not a Psychologist;
    at any rate, your hat needs adjusting.]

  • Indiana Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    Sorry friends.. but this election was already stolen, by this Chicago Admin. Going to the electoral college is the last effort to save this fine nation from a tyrant and a fiscal fool. I hope the EC does forget to show up or does vote for fiscal sanity in the form of Mitt Romney. He is abt the only one telling the truth, but ignorance and obstinacy abounds and he is not listened to. The price is going to be very very high is this fraudulent election stands.. God Bless America.. and keep her from liberal/progressive clutches...

  • Onion Daze Payson, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    I am sure Marc Ledar has the resources to recruit educators with the highest intellectual and physical capacities to help guide these “unbound electors”. But there may be a problem getting these folks to actually attend. Perhaps Marc could use the reverse mortgage principle. Offer each unbound elector $50,000 cash too attend the pool party and dinner.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 3:20 p.m.

    When I see such urgent mockery ("tin-foil hat," etc.) it is a sure sign some Obama-loving liberals are running scared, just a smidgen worried that this could happen.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 30, 2012 2:48 p.m.

    @ KentC. DeForrest; So those of us who want real answers from our government are comedians? I am learning it is very difficult to have a serious conversation with liberals without being called names and being insulted. I wonder why?

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    This whole discussion, from the crazy letter to the outraged comments, is the funniest thing I've seen in the DesNews in years. You ought to print this whole "conversation" where the comics usually go, since they don't come anywhere close to this in terms of sheer hilarity.

    On a related topic, I was reading a fascinating piece in Newsweek last night about the Twilight Zone the Republican Party has fled to, with its own facts, its own polls, its own media, and its own reality. It's a whole parallel universe. A pretty scary place, too, if you listen carefully.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 2:07 p.m.

    Obviously, this letter is preposterous. At the same time, it might make a nifty plot for a political thriller. Let's suppose that what the Right believes about Benghazi--that it involved some kind of treason by the President--actually had some legitimacy. You could write quite a fun novel or movie on the premise that a genuine traitor nonetheless won an election, so that Our Hero (Tom Cruise in the movie, perhaps) tries to persuade an elector (maybe Sandra Bullock) to change her vote.
    And love blooms!
    I can think of lots of movies based on sillier premises.
    Sad, really, that conservative fantasies like this one really are just that, absurd and silly fantasies.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Nov. 30, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    Mountanman,

    I am not sure of how many days are purchased with any specific change in the tax code, but you are absolutely correct that additional taxation of even the wealthiest will be insufficient by itself. Almost certainly all classes will have to pay more. And, of course, there will have to be spending cuts. In some areas this will need to be significant. We cannot simply kick the can down the road for another day.

    The deficit is simply too large. We will need to use every tool at our disposal to get it under control.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 30, 2012 1:33 p.m.

    I am still waiting for any liberal to tell us how we are going to pay for their entitlements? Obama says he will tax the "rich" but that will only produce enough revenue to run the government for less than 10 days. Please, Democrats tell us how we are going to pay for the other 355 days!

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 12:56 p.m.

    LDS Liberal, quit crying. Gore lost the electorial vote. But then again, you don't like the electorial college.

    Sadly, Obama won and our country will be the worse for it. Watch him try to get a third term. By the way, he's no statesman. He has run the most lawless administration since Nixon.

  • nonceleb Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    If you are unsuccessful educating electors you could join the equally futile secessionist movement. Then after a year or so, you can come to terms with the loss, join the real world and get on with your life.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Nov. 30, 2012 12:36 p.m.

    It's hard to imagine a more destructive course than suggested in the author's letter. What he's saying amounts to no less than "Let's steal this election. We can do it, and we all know we were right all along, right?"

    I am shocked that this letter is printed.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Nov. 30, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" you are wrong. According to people who grew up in Germany when Hitler was coming to power, Obama sounds a lot like Hitler. The uber liberals like you and Obama are doing the exact things that Hitler did during his rise to power.

    The liberals are destroying the nation from within. Just look at how they set up the fiscal cliff.

    Obama now wants to have control of the debt ceiling given to him. That sure sounds like we are headed towards hyper inflation, just like Germany. Both wanted to care for their citizens from cradle to grave.

    We can once again discuss your hypocrisy, and show the world how you and your ilk will say and do whatever you feel is necessary to eliminate the individual freedoms that we enjoy. You may have been in the military, but you never learned what you were fighting for.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Nov. 30, 2012 11:17 a.m.

    Republicans are just sore losers. It is part of the Authoritarian personality. When Clinton was elected, they spent years and millions of dollars investigating him, including 140 hours of sworn testimony regarding the Clinton's Christmas card list.

    Polls show that a majority of Americans will blame the Republicans rather than Pres. Obama if a compromise is not reached. Obama already established a record of compromise when he extended all the Bush tax cuts. The Republicans have been outspoken about their goal to deny Obama a 2nd term. Their record of obstructionism is historic.

    Keep up the tantrums Republicans. It reinforces the validity of the election. You are not statesmen. You are not mature enough to govern.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 11:14 a.m.

    In other news about the Repulican moral High-ground....

    The Deseret News reports; "GOP still has questions about discarded ballots in Matheson-Love race."

    Hint:
    Rather than gerrymandering or contesting each and every election,
    Try putting good candidates in or changing your platforms to be more inclusive and tolerant.

    Your winnings and Losses would thereby never be in any doubts.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 11:06 a.m.

    I know that repubs might hate to hear this, but that's why they call me a Maverick. I say the things that others are too afraid or too proud to say. If the repubs keep repeating this same stuff for the next 4 years, it will all but guarantee another Democrat to win in 2016!

    Time to not only change the tone of your message but also change the message itself.

    You folks are a dying breed. It's like Evolution (awww! Science! Yikes! We all know how repubs hate science!) you either evolve or become extinct.

    Is the GOP becoming extinct? Well, they've now lost 4 of 5 elections with the pop vote. You folks were recently blown out at the electoral college level.

    Time to evolve or go the way of the dodo bird.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    Should this be attempted there will be open rebellion (not figurative) by the working classes.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Nov. 30, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    Lds liberal

    "I remember when GW Bush was selected, not elected."

    Every president is selected by the Shadow Government 1% ruling class. They have to be their puppet if they want to be president. That's how it's been since 1913. and any president who has rebelled has gotten killed or intimdated into conforming to what the super rich want.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:59 a.m.

    Redshirt1701
    Deep Space 9, Ut
    To "LDS Liberal" when was Bush selected and not elected?
    You apparently are still holding onto that, and are quite bitter about it. Why can't you let it go?

    10:33 a.m. Nov. 30, 2012

    ===============

    Bitter about it!
    Darn toot'in.

    Hanging Chads, Supreme Court rulings, Dade County, Florida....
    Selected, not Elected.

    The DIFFERENCE is, I supported Pres. Cheney and his little buddy and respected their office - even as they ran this Great Nation into the ground!

    I never once betrayed my Country by signing stupid Petitions to Secede from it.
    I never once stopped praying for them [on the contray, I prayed even more].
    I never once felt ashamed of or bad mouthed our Country OR our Government.

    Not ONCE!
    Because to me, America always comes 1st.
    You guys putting Party 1st are no differnt than Nazis in Germany.

    In the U.S. Military I learned to love my ocuntry, defend it, no matter WHO the President, Commander-in-Chief is.

    You guys on the far-right are the one's destorying America with your tantrums and petitions and trash talking of America.

    Patriots -
    spelled T-R-A-I-T-O-R-S.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:59 a.m.

    Romney won't be any different than Obama. No thanks. The electoral college needs to be abolished I think. The reason is because it devalues the peoples vote. It is also used as a tool to take a non-establishment guy out of office like Ron Paul if he were to ever win the popular vote.

  • CLM Draper, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:54 a.m.

    I LOVE the Onion!

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:49 a.m.

    Mountanman,
    I am unsure of where you get your news. Most conservative politicians don't want to go over the fiscal cliff either. It includes large cuts in defense spending and is expected to send the national economy back into recession. That's good for no one. And the sequestratin was agree upon by both Obama and Congress so this truly is a bipartisan issue.

    "Massive tax increases from Obama anyway"? My taxes went down during Obama's term.

  • Onion Daze Payson, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:48 a.m.

    This “grassroots effort” to influence “unbound electors” requires more effort than what Donald Trump can muster in Las Vegas. We need patriotic pool parties also at the home of Mr. Marc Ledar. But Marc, make sure there are no hidden cameras this time. No sloppy security this time. Please.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:35 a.m.

    It's over, dude. America grew up and moved on, and standing still gets you left behind. We've got some serious work to do now.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:33 a.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" when was Bush selected and not elected?

    According to various news agencies and the electoral college, Bush won the election.

    See "Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed" in USAToday.

    You apparently are still holding onto that, and are quite bitter about it. Why can't you let it go?

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:09 a.m.

    Obama is bluffing about the "fiscal cliff" because it mandates cuts in federal spending! Cutting federal spending is poisonous to Obama, he plans to increase it substantially! Look folks, we are going to get massive tax increases from Obama anyway, at least if we go off the "cliff" we will get something for our increased taxes! Let the media and the DNC blame the Republicans, they will anyway! Remember the Boston Tea Party? We need another one and it seems to me this "fiscal cliff" is the best option for our country. After all, what is the alternative? Massive tax increases without spending cuts? Economic suicide!

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    So, you would ignore the will of the people (popular vote ALSO went to Obama) and STEAL the election?

    What a failure as "patriots" your party has become.

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:52 a.m.

    Let me remind you all that the province of Nunovit is still taking applications. Mountanman and the author can lead the exodus and let the remainder of us carry on in peace.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    I think 'Indiana' who posted below, just wrote that to elicit responses.
    That can't be anyone's REAL sentiment.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    Suggestion to the Right.

    If you continue to blame others for this years presidential defeat your party will become irrelevant.

    It is time to look inward and at areas that need changing rather than continuing to find every reason why the loss was the fault of others.

    Elections are won by voters. Voters have different races, genders and economic situations.

    You can blame those with who you have political differences, but that does not change the fact that they have a vote.

    50,000 American Hispanics turn 18 every month. Women make up over half of the voters. Young people vote heavily Democratic.

    If you think that these groups are all voting Democratic to get free stuff you are sadly mistaken. The sooner you realize that, the better your future election chances.

    And, I believe that we need a viable GOP to keep the Dems in check.

    Please get the message.

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    Mountainman:

    What are you talking about? I was bummed when "Carey" lost, but I didn't demand that the Electoral College overthrow the will of the American people. I got on with my life.

    And I love how the "party of personal responsibility" keeps trying to blame Democrats for everything that went wrong in the '00s. Barney Frank! Clinton! Saddam really had weapons of mass destruction! Yeah, that's it!

  • Onion Daze Payson, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:31 a.m.

    From Mr. Smith's letter:

    "We need a grassroots effort to educate each elector on the reasons Mitt Romney should be our next president."

    Perhaps "the Donald" could organize some pool parties in Las Vegas. This "grassroots effort" might save the Republic yet.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:30 a.m.

    Benghazi again? You may want to check out Bagley's cartoon in the Trib today. It's priceless in how it points out the hypocrisy of those who keep screaming about Benghazi.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:13 a.m.

    I thought repubs were all about the "voice of the people?"

    Soooooo Mr. Smith would rather "win" than to let the voice of the people and the Constitution win?

    Wow...

    Please Mr. Smith. Leave the country with the rest of your secession buddies.

  • Christian 24-7 Murray, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    Old Man:

    The Cleveland woman with the phone called it an Obama phone. If you think she is wrong, you should have straightened her, and all her neighbors in Cleveland out, before the election.

    The Obama camp used the phones to buy votes, period. I realize the libs never meant for her type to make video and go viral, but she did. She is what she is, and that includes an Obama supporting liberal, like so many of you. I realize is it embarrassing to you. Hey, I am embarrassed as a fellow American.

    Shall we blame Nixon or Ford for the next Obama administration failure or embarrassment?

  • Indiana Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:06 a.m.

    Wow. what a bunch of unkind spirits here.. Dennis Smith, you are exactly right and that is exactly what needs to happen. Obama did NOT win fair and square, he used every means available to steal this election from the rightful winner. Mr Smith, if you know how to contact those unbound electors, I suggest you twitter it.. many on there are listening.. #voterfraud is the hashtag and there are those there that would do it.

    As for the rest of you, you are badly misdirected in your loyalty to the most enabling president this nation has ever seen. It won't be long till no one will want to work and then there will be NO money for all the give aways.. sickening to watch..

    Keep up the good work Dennis Smith, for you are correct.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    @KJB Some of us remember the blue state irrational tantrums against President Bush and you never got over it! Carey lost, Bush won, but did you ever get over it? No, and you never will! Obama and the Democrats still blame GWB for all their failures, for the national debt that ironically is growing faster now that at any time in history and for the economic crash that really happened because the federal government under Clinton meddled in the housing market! Just as good ole boy, Barney Frank, he is one of yours, isn't he?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    Oh for crying out loud!...

    1st it' was the Electoral College loss [which should have been no surprise to anyone NOT watching FoxNews].
    Then it was the Popular Vote final tally,
    Next it was the traitorist Secession Petitions to leave the United States,
    Now it's the Lobby Electorites to sway the election.

    From the Party of REAL Patriots, and the REAL Americans.

    I remember when GW Bush was selected, not elected.

    Never heard such garbage coming from us "evil" "un-American" Liberals then...

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:44 a.m.

    It never ceases to amuse me how the rugged red-state conservatives are the ones who throw the biggest, most irrational tantrums.

    Obama won and Romney lost. Get over it.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:42 a.m.

    I doubt Mitt would ever be elected President.
    We have seen and heard his act...
    You don't get a second chance to make a first impression.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:40 a.m.

    Don't think so.
    People wanted a statesman, not a salesman, and we got one.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    Ah, once again the legendary and mythical "Obamaphone" shows up.

    How many times do we have to point out that it's really a Reaganphone?

    However, this letter has helped me to understand a little more about those "Utah Values" we hear about so often, but that no one can really define. I'm not exactly sure what this particular value should be called, but it does have a rather bad smell about it.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    Come on guys, it's time to switch off Michael Savage, pull the tin foil out of the sombrero, turn off Fox News, check out the Wall Street Journal, and get back into the Great American Mainstream.

    We can't run the country with one functioning political party, we need some well reasoned conservative input.

  • Christian 24-7 Murray, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 8:11 a.m.

    Even with the biggest scandal ever, it ain't never going to happen.

    @ Blue

    To lump every conservative in with this letter writer is ludicrous.

    Remember the Obamaphone lady? Do all liberals want to be lumped in with her?

    Have a nice day.

  • jonnyboy Orem, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 7:48 a.m.

    Yes, because no stupid people voted for Romney and no.intelligent people voted for Obama. I am sorry but the basic underlying assumptions of this letter wreak of self-righteous delussion.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Nov. 30, 2012 7:28 a.m.

    I wold suspect that even the DN editors were laughing themselves silly when they read this. Good joke. Great way to start a day.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Nov. 30, 2012 7:02 a.m.

    It's over. Give it a rest.

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 6:30 a.m.

    Are you serious?? Reallly?

    It may be interesting for the writer to research the reasoning behind the decision to use the Electoral College.

    If we can get the Republican Congress to work with the President we will move forward. As long as the Congress continues to ignore the people of the United States in an effort to make themselves more electable we as a nation will suffer.

    I find the lack of action by Congressman almost treasonous.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 30, 2012 5:24 a.m.

    "They must look beyond political party and vote as Americans."

    Something that you may try yourself, Mr Smith.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 5:01 a.m.

    Oh for Pete's sake!

    Seriously?

    Conservatives, you folks frequently claim to be offended by the criticism from the left that you are not thinking rationally.

    This letter is a perfect example of why you have earned the ridicule you experience.

    The derision this letter will produce isn't unfair "MSM" bias, it's simple reality holding a mirror up to you.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 30, 2012 1:22 a.m.

    So just because you didn't get your way means you need to violate 130 years of precedent and try and steal the election away from the American voters who fairly voted in Obama?