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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 28 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

Right, Abbey. Let's all go barefoot. Or we can substitute shoes made of recycled tires or plastic. What a boon to the petroleum industry.
And ban footballs made of real pigskin.
No more leather upholstery in your living room or car.
Something tells me you are also vegan, right?

higv
Dietrich, ID

Animals are here for us to give us food and clothing in abundance. They are to be used and I will use those things to keep me warm. And eat animals as well as well as there products. People may use the misguided concern for animals to control human lives.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

While my thoughts are not as extreme there is a huge difference between people killing an animal for food and using everything including the hide as clothing and the deplorable practices of today where everything is wasted except the hide.

Especially when it's just not necessary. We have plenty of other choices now and we should be moving towards less use of animals.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

If you don't want to use leather or fur, don't! Problem solved. For the rest of us, the Lord made clothing for Adam and Eve out of animal skins when they were cast out of the Garden of Eden. Take up your concerns with Him on this issue because for the rest of us, it is a non-issue!

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

It is not just that our own skins don't keep us warm "anymore" - the skin of Homo sapiens has never been sufficient protection against the elements. To say "use your own skin" is to provide no real solution to a very real problem and places your concern for some animals above your concern for other animals - the human animal can freeze and suffer as long as that means these other animals are spared is a very hypocritical argument and removes any moral high ground you may think you possess.

Wearing fur is not murder. Although the animals may be abused and tortured (practices that should be stopped) and eventually killed, the killing of them does not meet the current definition of murder - and the wearing of the skin of a dead animal, is most definitely not an act of murder.

Hyperbolic letters such as this have been proven highly ineffective in convincing people to change behavior. Your lack of a reasoned argument and alternative is sophomoric and does nothing to further your cause.

William Gronberg
Payson, UT

Abbey does point out some dubious ways animals are treated. Sometimes “efficiency” and profits trump more humane procedures. That said, I wish I had an egg and ham breakfast waiting for me this morning.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

Bacon....

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Gratuitous cruelty to animals is never in style, but your argument demonstrates that fur is not the only fringe element in our society. You have also made a new definition for the word murder. Such hyperbole does your cause no good.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

higv
Dietrich, ID
Animals are here for us to give us food and clothing in abundance.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID
the Lord made clothing for Adam and Eve out of animal skins when they were cast out of the Garden of Eden. Take up your concerns with Him on this issue because for the rest of us, it is a non-issue!

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More false Mormon Doctrine spread.
Once again coming from the same uber-far-right-wingers...

God never said in "abundance"!

D&C 89
12 ....nevertheless they are to be used SPARINGLY;

13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should NOT be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or FAMINE.

15 And these hath God made for the use of man ONLY in times of famine and excess of hunger.

I'll bet my last dollar both of you could stand to loose a few extra pounds...

You're bot breaking the Word of Wisdom,
and it has nothing to do with the great debate about Diet Cokes.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Had a hamburger for dinner yesterday, bacon for breakfast this morning. Philosophically, I'm sympathetic to your cause; your hyperbolic rhetorical excesses aren't helping. Sure, we probably should eat less meat, but when you accuse more Americans of murder, I'm more likely to respond with laughter than agreement.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Kalindra,

Very well said. Thank you.

Ben H
Clearfield, UT

Native Americans used all of the buffalo that they killed for food. I eat meat and have no problem with using leather for clothing. I feel it is a waste to kill a cow for food and not use the skins for clothing. Let's make certain we don't waste the gifts that God has given to us.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

When is a murder not a murder? Is it even possible to live without killing other forms of life?

Is it possible to live our lives without using the commodities brought to us by the struggle and wars that have killed so many human beings, their children, their pets and those who depended upon them?

Is it possible to live without our daily struggle against the rodents, and other animal carrying germs, insects and bugs?

Even a grain of wheat has the potential to grow and perpetuate it’s species if left alone and not be pulverized into bread.

The Commandment Thou shall not kill sets before us an impossible task.

one old man
Ogden, UT

I think I just murdered a whole bunch of cotton plants.

Roller
Gunnison, UT

I know that the cattle killed locally for meat are treated very humanely by our farmers. Letter writer is throwing out a bunch of assumptions and propaganda put forth by PETA. People eating tasty animals. Mmmmm....

CB
Salt Lake City, UT

What happens to the goose whose down keeps me warm, when I lower the furnace to keep the
environment cleaner? And even when I wear my Mink Jacket, I think it is much more useful and fulfilling of the life of that mink, than being a fur ball in some predator's belly.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Slaughter
vs.
Murder

-- not the same thing.

But I'm no lawyer.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "Open Minded Mormon" I want to one up you. D&C 49:18-19 "18 And whoso forbiddeth to abstain from meats, that man should not eat the same, is not ordained of God;

19 For, behold, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and that which cometh of the earth, is ordained for the use of man for food and for raiment, and that he might have in abundance."

Or Genesis 9:3-4 "3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat." (have your steak, but make sure it is kosher.)

Apparently we were given critters to fill our bellies with and to cloth our boddies with.

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

Murder is person killing person. Animals are not people.

FallenChocolate
Sandy, UT

Way to speak out! It's nice to see someone who cares about something bigger than themselves :) And very well said, too!

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