Published: Wednesday, Nov. 28 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
Right, Abbey. Let's all go barefoot. Or we can substitute shoes made of
recycled tires or plastic. What a boon to the petroleum industry.And ban
footballs made of real pigskin. No more leather upholstery in your living
room or car.Something tells me you are also vegan, right?
Animals are here for us to give us food and clothing in abundance. They are to
be used and I will use those things to keep me warm. And eat animals as well as
well as there products. People may use the misguided concern for animals to
control human lives.
While my thoughts are not as extreme there is a huge difference between people
killing an animal for food and using everything including the hide as clothing
and the deplorable practices of today where everything is wasted except the
hide.Especially when it's just not necessary. We have plenty of
other choices now and we should be moving towards less use of animals.
If you don't want to use leather or fur, don't! Problem solved. For
the rest of us, the Lord made clothing for Adam and Eve out of animal skins when
they were cast out of the Garden of Eden. Take up your concerns with Him on this
issue because for the rest of us, it is a non-issue!
It is not just that our own skins don't keep us warm "anymore" -
the skin of Homo sapiens has never been sufficient protection against the
elements. To say "use your own skin" is to provide no real solution to a
very real problem and places your concern for some animals above your concern
for other animals - the human animal can freeze and suffer as long as that means
these other animals are spared is a very hypocritical argument and removes any
moral high ground you may think you possess. Wearing fur is not
murder. Although the animals may be abused and tortured (practices that should
be stopped) and eventually killed, the killing of them does not meet the current
definition of murder - and the wearing of the skin of a dead animal, is most
definitely not an act of murder. Hyperbolic letters such as this
have been proven highly ineffective in convincing people to change behavior.
Your lack of a reasoned argument and alternative is sophomoric and does nothing
to further your cause.
Abbey does point out some dubious ways animals are treated. Sometimes
“efficiency” and profits trump more humane procedures. That said, I
wish I had an egg and ham breakfast waiting for me this morning.
Gratuitous cruelty to animals is never in style, but your argument demonstrates
that fur is not the only fringe element in our society. You have also made a new
definition for the word murder. Such hyperbole does your cause no good.
higvDietrich, IDAnimals are here for us to give us food and clothing
in abundance.MountanmanHayden, IDthe Lord made clothing
for Adam and Eve out of animal skins when they were cast out of the Garden of
Eden. Take up your concerns with Him on this issue because for the rest of us,
it is a non-issue!=============== More false Mormon
Doctrine spread.Once again coming from the same
uber-far-right-wingers...God never said in "abundance"!D&C 8912 ....nevertheless they are to be used SPARINGLY; 13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should NOT be used, only in
times of winter, or of cold, or FAMINE. 15 And these hath God made
for the use of man ONLY in times of famine and excess of hunger.I'll bet my last dollar both of you could stand to loose a few extra
pounds...You're bot breaking the Word of Wisdom, and it
has nothing to do with the great debate about Diet Cokes.
Had a hamburger for dinner yesterday, bacon for breakfast this morning.
Philosophically, I'm sympathetic to your cause; your hyperbolic rhetorical
excesses aren't helping. Sure, we probably should eat less meat, but when
you accuse more Americans of murder, I'm more likely to respond with
laughter than agreement.
Kalindra,Very well said. Thank you.
Native Americans used all of the buffalo that they killed for food. I eat meat
and have no problem with using leather for clothing. I feel it is a waste to
kill a cow for food and not use the skins for clothing. Let's make certain
we don't waste the gifts that God has given to us.
When is a murder not a murder? Is it even possible to live without killing
other forms of life?Is it possible to live our lives without using
the commodities brought to us by the struggle and wars that have killed so many
human beings, their children, their pets and those who depended upon them?Is it possible to live without our daily struggle against the rodents,
and other animal carrying germs, insects and bugs? Even a grain of
wheat has the potential to grow and perpetuate it’s species if left alone
and not be pulverized into bread. The Commandment Thou shall not
kill sets before us an impossible task.
I think I just murdered a whole bunch of cotton plants.
I know that the cattle killed locally for meat are treated very humanely by our
farmers. Letter writer is throwing out a bunch of assumptions and propaganda put
forth by PETA. People eating tasty animals. Mmmmm....
What happens to the goose whose down keeps me warm, when I lower the furnace to
keep the environment cleaner? And even when I wear my Mink Jacket, I
think it is much more useful and fulfilling of the life of that mink, than being
a fur ball in some predator's belly.
Slaughtervs. Murder-- not the same thing.But
I'm no lawyer.
To "Open Minded Mormon" I want to one up you. D&C 49:18-19 "18
And whoso forbiddeth to abstain from meats, that man should not eat the same, is
not ordained of God;19 For, behold, the beasts of the field and the
fowls of the air, and that which cometh of the earth, is ordained for the use of
man for food and for raiment, and that he might have in abundance."Or Genesis 9:3-4 "3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you;
even as the green herb have I given you all things.4 But flesh with the
life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat." (have your
steak, but make sure it is kosher.)Apparently we were given critters
to fill our bellies with and to cloth our boddies with.
Murder is person killing person. Animals are not people.
Way to speak out! It's nice to see someone who cares about something bigger
than themselves :) And very well said, too!
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