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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 27 2012 8:41 p.m. MST

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DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

College is supposed to be for education, not sports.

I know this will offend the sports fanatics, but what is so important about college football? Especially when in most schools the players are not student athletes, but rather pampered jocks for hire to make the school look good.

I propose this to determine the national collegiate football championship:

Take the all teams with over a 75% winning record for the season. Add the grade point average for each team's players, with bonus points for the test scores of all seniors who take the tests for advanced studies (GRE, MCAT, LSAT, etc) and deduct points for any "red shirt" players, players with GPA less than 2.0, players who dropped out before graduation, or who get in trouble with the law.

That would see which team is really the "best" rather than some coliseum spectacles where barely tamed savages attack each other. Leave that stuff to the "professionals."

Supercool11
R-Valley, NV

D-1 football needs a 16-team playoff and at minimum an 8-team playoff. It would be a lot more fun than what we have now or what we will have with a four-team playoff. With a 16-team playoff I would say take the conference champions and fill out the brackets with the highest-ranked teams remaining. In an eight-team playoff simply take the eight highest ranked teams.

But that would make too much sense.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Tell Brad Rock he too has a micro brain like all of us

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

The BCS didn't result from a lack of intelligence. It is the result of greed.

eagle
Provo, UT

SuperCool11:

That is a super cool idea and the same one I have promoted on these blogs. I hope it happens. The four team playoff is a small, tiny step in the right direction but it doesn't go far enough.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

Doug, you are too kind.

Really.

Why would I?
Farmington, UT

When I look at college football and the playoff (?) system, why would I be persuaded that love was a bigger motivater than greed?

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

It all comes down to this....

In college football, it's the SEC or nothing....

germanygator
Apo, AE

The west doesn't get football. Florida has played the toughest teams in the country and beaten them on the road, too. While Utah and BYU supporters can cry over their records, you can't deny what Florida has accomplished. I'm not advocating for Florida to jump over anyone to go to the BCS CG either. My team lost a key game to a top 10 opponent and that's that. Oregon lost to lower ranked opponent. I'd love to see a Gators-Ducks matchup, but that won't happen. Gotta keep those west teams in the Fiesta or Rose Bowls for some reason.

BTW--Ohio State went to the Gator Bowl last year and lost to Florida. OSU played in the Sugar Bowl the season before and was forced to vacate the win over Arkansas due to the sanctions.

germanygator
Apo, AE

Supercool--you can't have all the conference champs play each other. Doing so makes the conferences equal and they are not. I'm sure you don't like the sound of that, but the SEC does reign supreme and the MAC champion doesn't belong on the same field.

Think I'm wrong? Just wait and see. If Kent State wins the MAC and rises to #16, they'll go to the Orange Bowl to play the winner of the ACC championship game--likely Florida State. While my Gators blasted the #1 rush defense in the country with back to back rushing touchdowns, FSU will destroy Kent State.

Another piece of evidence that conferences aren't equal: SEC vs ACC Turkey Day weekend: 4-0. SEC is 6-0 in BCS championship games.

This topic is beyond what people think is "fair". It's about talent and the SEC has it. We'll see what ND can bring to the table in this year's BCS matchup.

The Dixie Kid
Saint George, UT

If BYU started James Lark at Notre Dame, then we wouldn't even have this problem. It would be SEC champ vs. Oregon.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

It's not as simple as saying greed is the reason for the BCS and our four team playoff. Any economics major could tell you that there is far more money in an 8 or 16 team playoff. The financial payout would be huge to the media and universities.

The motivation is focused on power and targeted greed. The "super" conferences do not want to share the money with the non-super conferences. Money will put them on an equal playing field. Everything was going well, until BYU broke into the Bowl Alliance. Then Utah, Boise State, TCU and Hawaii defied the odds by qualifying for a BCS game. Something had to be done.

It was obvious that the MWC would now qualify as a super conference especially with the addition of Boise State.

NCAA BB is a fairer system. It allows a team like Butler to play for the National Championship two of the last five years.

Select the Top 8 or Top 16 teams for the playoff in FB. The FCS was figured it out, and their system works very well. Maybe their is more brain power in the FCS than the FBS.

TMR
Los Angeles, CA

Doug, I assume that your question - does anyone think that Florida and Georgia are really better than Oregon? - is not rhetorical, so, I say "yes," I do think they are better. You can cry all you want, but facts are facts: the SEC is by far the superior conference - better coaches and better players make for gold-standard football. Once again, the real national championship will be the SEC championship and then we will all watch the champion crush ND, an outcome that would be no different if Oregon were No. 1. One can complain about greed (a favorite), shrinking intelligence (a theory advanced by a notable PAC-12 school), UFOs, or any other contrived angle, but, as I would tell my child when he would throw a tantrum over a perceived injustice - life is not fair, but right is right and facts are facts: there is the SEC and then everyone else.

Mendel
Iowa City, IA

@ DN Subscriber 2: You are absolutely correct, college should be for education and not sports. How quickly people forget the tragedy of Penn State--protection of the football program at the expense of the innocent. Nothing has changed. Sadly, none of this is about students, or even student athletes. As the money involved continues to grow, more tragedies will occur.

DonO
Draper, UT

Spot on, Doug! Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with college football. It's obviously run by people who played the game without a helmet...if they played it at all. Money controls the game in every school, even those that claim higher goals.

fcbenjamin
Chittenango, NY

Dear germanygator. Yes, the MAC Champion deserves to be in a playoff as much as the SEC Champion. So does the Sun Belt Champion. Match the MAC Champ and the SEC Champion, and yes, I would bet the farm on the SEC Champion. Being on the same field does not make teams equal, but you know that. Otherwise,Savannah State would be equal to Florida State, by your logic. Equal opportunity is not the same as equal. I love watching SEC football, but, unlike you, I choose not to worship at the SEC altar. 16 team playoff, all 11 conference champions,five at large, and the SEC can prove that they are superior by beating teams from other conferences to the title, and not just play each other.

majmajor
Layton, UT

The SEC is the most overrated and homered conference in college football. It has the east coast media; they play two (or three timezones) before the half of the countries teams (and before the media is asleep); Play nobody outside of their conference (and if they do it is at home); They may play the ACC and the Big-Least (but they are no better than the WAC, or MWC);

It is the pure example of the logic of monopolies. "We are better than everyone because of our history; because we are better, we get to create the rules that ensure that we appear to stay the best." It is all a shell game, and about the "haves and have nots."

Linus
Bountiful, UT

All of this competition and all of this controversy are huge, intentional distractions from what is really important. And if you don't know what in life is way more important than this competition and this controversy, then you prove my point. You have been distracted!

To use a sports cliche, "keep your eye on the ball." Don't allow yourself to be distracted. There is a great struggle going on for men's souls. Get engaged!

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Doug Robinson:

"Meanwhile, Utah has moved up to college football's penthouse, leaving behind its poor relations, and BYU is a free agent."
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Such a tough concept for BYU fans to grasp and accept; but true, very true! With BCS conferences, there's the have's and the have not. The dividing line is rigid and clear. The only exception is Notre Dame. Re: NBC TV contract, and BCS National Championship game!

J-TX
Allen, TX

I am surprised to see such impassioned posts here from Utahns. Why do y'all care, really? No Utah team will ever again be in a position to get a shot at the NC.

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