@ MendelWhy should college be without sports? Seriously. You know
how many athletes really make it to the pro level? Meantime, many people go to
school who otherwise would not have, and earn a degree as they play. If they
play it right, sports helps them with discipline.Not to mention the
money that sports brings in. Come on, get with it.
That study is the biggest load of garbage I have ever heard. Evolving to losing
intelligence because I live in an agriculture area? No, the problem today is
that grown men sit and play video games when they have way more important things
to do, and our society wants everything right now and to keep up with the Jones.
That is what is making people stupid. I just lost a little respect for
Stanford after hearing that load of garbage.@J-Tx- Yeah keep talking
pal, since the Longhorns are really tearing it up these days huh?
GD, the NFL didn't divide and start the AFL. The AFL started on its own
and then the two leagues merged after super bowl III. There are already two
leagues, one is called the FBS and the other is the FCS. Formerly divison IA
and division IAA. Money and greed always rule.
Until the teams are aligned in leagues of 7-9 with league play finishing in late
October or early November, there will be no opportunity for a true playoff
format plus bowl invitations so a national champion can be crowned and various
leagues can compete against each other through post season play; providing
various combinations of exposure on the regional and national stages for
recruiting. This format is the only one that has any chance at
parity over the long haul. Powerhouses would be more limited in scope and the
underdogs in football would have more chances for those upsets that help gain
momentum. Since national prominence would be available in more places, fewer
players would be willing to ride the bench when they might be able to star
elsewhere.Simply stated: NCAA football needs to create 16 leagues
and run a 16 team playoff among the league champions. Any Bowl invitation play
needs to work around the playoff or be part of the playoff system. If any 2
leagues find a measure of compatibility in signing television contracts, that
can be accommodated, but limits must be maintained to protect league rivalries.
Remember the NFL divided and started and AFL. That's what the schools
who never get recognition should do. Divide off, have their own national
champion. Let the Sec, Acc, Big 12 and Pac 12 fight it out with each other.
The other schools could create a very interesting champion and it would be easy
for me to forget the greedy bunch.
"The only exception is Notre Dame. Re: NBC TV contract, and BCS National
Championship game!"Even within the independents there are the haves
and the have nots. Army and BYU have tougher qualification criteria than Notre
Dame - even worse than a nonAQ league team.
If the top collegiate math teams were competing there would be an easy consensus
on how to arrive at a champion. Once money is subtracted (or equalized) from the
issue of a collegiate football championship there would be few disagreements. It
has never been so evident that money is the root of all evil.
The problem with the article is it needed to be printed after this weekend. 2
of the 3 sec teams are playing each other. One will knock the other out of top
4 with 2 losses. One Pac 12 team named Oregon will be in top 4 by end of season
and playing for national championship. So you would have ND, Sec Cham, Florida,
and Oregon. And I don think the SEC is the best conf.
I am surprised to see such impassioned posts here from Utahns. Why do
y'all care, really? No Utah team will ever again be in a position to get a
shot at the NC.
Doug Robinson:"Meanwhile, Utah has moved up to college
football's penthouse, leaving behind its poor relations, and BYU is a free
agent."----Such a tough concept for BYU fans to grasp and
accept; but true, very true! With BCS conferences, there's the have's
and the have not. The dividing line is rigid and clear. The only exception is
Notre Dame. Re: NBC TV contract, and BCS National Championship game!
All of this competition and all of this controversy are huge, intentional
distractions from what is really important. And if you don't know what in
life is way more important than this competition and this controversy, then you
prove my point. You have been distracted!To use a sports cliche,
"keep your eye on the ball." Don't allow yourself to be
distracted. There is a great struggle going on for men's souls. Get
The SEC is the most overrated and homered conference in college football. It
has the east coast media; they play two (or three timezones) before the half of
the countries teams (and before the media is asleep); Play nobody outside of
their conference (and if they do it is at home); They may play the ACC and the
Big-Least (but they are no better than the WAC, or MWC);It is the
pure example of the logic of monopolies. "We are better than everyone
because of our history; because we are better, we get to create the rules that
ensure that we appear to stay the best." It is all a shell game, and about
the "haves and have nots."
Dear germanygator. Yes, the MAC Champion deserves to be in a playoff as much as
the SEC Champion. So does the Sun Belt Champion. Match the MAC Champ and the
SEC Champion, and yes, I would bet the farm on the SEC Champion. Being on the
same field does not make teams equal, but you know that. Otherwise,Savannah
State would be equal to Florida State, by your logic. Equal opportunity is not
the same as equal. I love watching SEC football, but, unlike you, I choose not
to worship at the SEC altar. 16 team playoff, all 11 conference champions,five
at large, and the SEC can prove that they are superior by beating teams from
other conferences to the title, and not just play each other.
Spot on, Doug! Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with college football.
It's obviously run by people who played the game without a helmet...if they
played it at all. Money controls the game in every school, even those that claim
@ DN Subscriber 2: You are absolutely correct, college should be for education
and not sports. How quickly people forget the tragedy of Penn State--protection
of the football program at the expense of the innocent. Nothing has changed.
Sadly, none of this is about students, or even student athletes. As the money
involved continues to grow, more tragedies will occur.
Doug, I assume that your question - does anyone think that Florida and Georgia
are really better than Oregon? - is not rhetorical, so, I say "yes," I
do think they are better. You can cry all you want, but facts are facts: the
SEC is by far the superior conference - better coaches and better players make
for gold-standard football. Once again, the real national championship will be
the SEC championship and then we will all watch the champion crush ND, an
outcome that would be no different if Oregon were No. 1. One can complain about
greed (a favorite), shrinking intelligence (a theory advanced by a notable
PAC-12 school), UFOs, or any other contrived angle, but, as I would tell my
child when he would throw a tantrum over a perceived injustice - life is not
fair, but right is right and facts are facts: there is the SEC and then everyone
It's not as simple as saying greed is the reason for the BCS and our four
team playoff. Any economics major could tell you that there is far more money
in an 8 or 16 team playoff. The financial payout would be huge to the media and
universities.The motivation is focused on power and targeted greed.
The "super" conferences do not want to share the money with the
non-super conferences. Money will put them on an equal playing field.
Everything was going well, until BYU broke into the Bowl Alliance. Then Utah,
Boise State, TCU and Hawaii defied the odds by qualifying for a BCS game.
Something had to be done. It was obvious that the MWC would now
qualify as a super conference especially with the addition of Boise State.NCAA BB is a fairer system. It allows a team like Butler to play for
the National Championship two of the last five years.Select the Top
8 or Top 16 teams for the playoff in FB. The FCS was figured it out, and their
system works very well. Maybe their is more brain power in the FCS than the
If BYU started James Lark at Notre Dame, then we wouldn't even have this
problem. It would be SEC champ vs. Oregon.
Supercool--you can't have all the conference champs play each other. Doing
so makes the conferences equal and they are not. I'm sure you don't
like the sound of that, but the SEC does reign supreme and the MAC champion
doesn't belong on the same field.Think I'm wrong? Just
wait and see. If Kent State wins the MAC and rises to #16, they'll go to
the Orange Bowl to play the winner of the ACC championship game--likely Florida
State. While my Gators blasted the #1 rush defense in the country with back to
back rushing touchdowns, FSU will destroy Kent State.Another piece
of evidence that conferences aren't equal: SEC vs ACC Turkey Day weekend:
4-0. SEC is 6-0 in BCS championship games. This topic is beyond what
people think is "fair". It's about talent and the SEC has it.
We'll see what ND can bring to the table in this year's BCS matchup.
The west doesn't get football. Florida has played the toughest teams in the
country and beaten them on the road, too. While Utah and BYU supporters can cry
over their records, you can't deny what Florida has accomplished. I'm
not advocating for Florida to jump over anyone to go to the BCS CG either. My
team lost a key game to a top 10 opponent and that's that. Oregon lost to
lower ranked opponent. I'd love to see a Gators-Ducks matchup, but that
won't happen. Gotta keep those west teams in the Fiesta or Rose Bowls for
some reason.BTW--Ohio State went to the Gator Bowl last year and
lost to Florida. OSU played in the Sugar Bowl the season before and was forced
to vacate the win over Arkansas due to the sanctions.
It all comes down to this....In college football, it's the SEC
When I look at college football and the playoff (?) system, why would I be
persuaded that love was a bigger motivater than greed?
Doug, you are too kind.Really.
SuperCool11:That is a super cool idea and the same one I have
promoted on these blogs. I hope it happens. The four team playoff is a small,
tiny step in the right direction but it doesn't go far enough.
The BCS didn't result from a lack of intelligence. It is the result of
Tell Brad Rock he too has a micro brain like all of us
D-1 football needs a 16-team playoff and at minimum an 8-team playoff. It would
be a lot more fun than what we have now or what we will have with a four-team
playoff. With a 16-team playoff I would say take the conference champions and
fill out the brackets with the highest-ranked teams remaining. In an eight-team
playoff simply take the eight highest ranked teams.But that would
make too much sense.
College is supposed to be for education, not sports.I know this will
offend the sports fanatics, but what is so important about college football?
Especially when in most schools the players are not student athletes, but rather
pampered jocks for hire to make the school look good.I propose this
to determine the national collegiate football championship:Take the
all teams with over a 75% winning record for the season. Add the grade point
average for each team's players, with bonus points for the test scores of
all seniors who take the tests for advanced studies (GRE, MCAT, LSAT, etc) and
deduct points for any "red shirt" players, players with GPA less than
2.0, players who dropped out before graduation, or who get in trouble with the
law.That would see which team is really the "best" rather
than some coliseum spectacles where barely tamed savages attack each other.
Leave that stuff to the "professionals."