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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 27 2012 4:35 p.m. MST

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Hoopty6
OGDEN, UT

Here is the real deal (from a cougar fan):

There is no way to conclude that USU is the best in the state. Do do so you would first have to define 'best' (which was not done), and then identify those characteristics that made them that. However, they are CLEARLY the most CONSISTENT team this year.

If I had to make a pick, I would vote them as the best in the state right now. They obviously were not the best the night they played BYU, but teams play differently all the time and anything can happen. I don't think you can definitively say, but either way, props to them on a GREAT season, and I hope it continues.

The A Game
Sandy, UT

Ifel, I totally understand what you're saying, and I also understand why some don't consider USU the best in the state because they lost to BYU. I personally think the Aggies should've won the last two years (three if you count the one in Logan) but they obviously didn't win and being ranked doesn't change that. But looking at both teams right now, I think USU is the better team. This isn't news, but case in point: San Jose State. I hear people criticize USU's schedule....well, they are in the WAC, thus they play WAC teams. According to BYU, they are superior to WAC teams, yet how many inferior WAC teams did they play? And don't forget Weber...that's even worse. So, even with USU's schedule they are still ranked for a reason. Even though BYU beat them, they aren't ranked. I think that sums it up quite well. None of this really matters, but it's still humorous to watch others attempt to disagree without anything to back them up. Anyway, go Aggies.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

J-TX

"But while we're on the subject of Texas FB, there are 4 TX Div 1 5A High School teams I believe could beat Utah, USU or BYU"

Sorry new TX, but we've heard the same thing many times about the best college basketball and football teams being able to beat the worst NBA and NFL teams.

The glaring hole in that assumption is that EVERY player playing for BYU, Utah, and Utah State is a D-1 college football player, many with 3 or 4 year's experience.

Even the best high school teams aren't composed entirely of D-1 players, and even if they were, it would be like playing an entire team of Freshmen; we've seen time and time again how much young teams struggle in any conference.

Bottom line: Your Texas HS teams would get pounded by bottom dwelling D-1 teams like Colorado.

It would be comical watching Ziggy or Lotulelei wreaking havoc on your "too big for their britches" high school teams.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

I tend to think usu is the best team in the state this year despite BYU beating them, but of course no honest utah "fan" can say that. Afterall we have been hearing from them for the last year that utah was the better team last year because they beat BYU even though BYU finished with more wins and a national ranking. Of course they alternately told us that utah was better than colorado last year despite the fact they lost to colorado, at home no less, because utah won more games.

I guess the point is that honesty and consistency are not particularly strong traits in utah "fans".

Guam_Bomb
BARRIGADA, GU

It's great to see USU on the rise. I hope Johnson stays in Logan a long time. Given what I have seen the last couple of years, I think he has the talent to build that program into a perennial winner, much like Boise State has been over the last decade. I realize that probably the biggest challenge in keeping him is money as his stock rises. But if he stays and they keep playing the way they're playing he would justify that big salary given the economics of today's game.

As a Utah fan, I would love to see the type of intensity of this years game every year. Despite Utah's disappointing year, I think the quality of football being played in Utah is higher than it's ever been, at all levels.

GO UTES!!!

Teddy Bear
Las Vegas, NV

Let USU have their time in the sun. They deserve it.

AltaHawkFan
Sandy, UT

re: Guam_Bomb

err ... would that be Anderson and not Johnson ?

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

Duckhunter

Beating a team 6-3 at home is not comparable to beating one 54-10 on the road. I think you're smart enough to understand the difference between a close game and complete domination, but for some reason you still continue to fight it.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

Two For Flinching

A lopsided score doesn't necessarily prove domination either.

How many times have we seen a basketball team suffer a lopsided defeat in their first game against an opponent, and then return the favor in the rematch? And, that's not just restricted to home courts, sometimes both lopsided wins happen on the opponents' home courts.

It doesn't happen as often in football, simply because there are so few rematches, but it does happen.

Utah's lopsided 2011 win was fueled mainly by seven BYU turnovers. Can you honestly say that BYU couldn't have beaten Utah just as badly in a rematch if the turnover bug had bitten Utah instead of BYU in the second game?

Bottom line, whether close or lopsided, one game does not a season make.

Utah State is the best team in the state this year based on their overall record, not because they beat Utah or lost to BYU.

JustTheTruthMan
bountiful, ut

In the end you can't use game day outcome to determine the better team in the season. Just look at the final records and you will have no trouble saying that USU BYU Utah is how it fanned out this year. Head to head only matters when it comes to tie breaker situations. 7-5 is NEVER better than 10-2 and 5=7 is never better than 7-5...

Jake2010
bountiful, ut

oh Utah fans are gonna be mad to have had their stadium referred to as LES! LOL

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