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Published: Monday, Nov. 26 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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wrz
Ogden, UT

"Parent's responsibility, not the school's, to teach"

You almost got that right...

It is the responsibility of the schools to teach. And it is the responsibility of the parent to see that the kid attends, pays attention, studies, does homework, and instills in the kid, to get ahead you must get an education.

embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

Do Utahns even know what "civil liberties" means? The way ACLU bashing occurs here, I think many people here don't deserve any.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

The day will come when you will be forced send you children to private schools because of the politically approved garbage taught in public schools.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

Banning books is a big red flag. What are you afraid of? Books?

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Is this letter a joke?

This person actually supports book banning? Who decides that? Should we have a big bonfire in the streets and toss these unwanted books into them? Where have I seen this before?

Let the free market decide on books. If they aren't wanted or popular, publishers won't make them! If students are taught and believe in their moral/religious teachings, they won't touch those books. Even if they do, they have the Atonement to use in order to repent for their sins and book readings.

We need to stop this nanny government of expelling books and getting rid of Sex Edu. You cannot be saved in innocence.

Let us prepare our children for the real world and let them make real choices. After all, wasn't that the plan all along?

one old man
Ogden, UT

Has the writer actually read the book? I think I'll have to go find it in the library and read it myself. Then I'll be able to decide based on knowledge rather than fear induced by others.

Confused
Sandy, UT

Hey posters....

Before you bash the letter writer for being everything Book banner to whatever..You may want to read the comments of the author of the book..

She has stated that the book WAS NOT intended for elementary school, but for the teenagers who could grasp the concepts...

Miss Piggie
Ogden, UT

@The Real Maverick:
"This person actually supports book banning?"

I see your point. Where are 'Playboy' and 'Hustler?' I realize they are not actually books... but banning these beneficial and educational publications borders on malfeasance. Our poor kids... how are they to ever make it in this world being so deprived?

"If students are taught and believe in their moral/religious teachings, they won't touch those books."

Too funny! What bubble do you live in?

"Even if they do, they have the Atonement to use in order to repent for their sins and book readings."

I know... Don't you just love it? I plan on doing just that as I lay dying. In the mean time, I plan to eat, drink, and be marry...

"We need to stop this nanny government of expelling books and getting rid of Sex Edu. You cannot be saved in innocence."

You cannot be saved buried in abject sinfulness.

George
Bronx, NY

When the your 'best' argument you can make of some type if harm is to erroniously compair a book about a loving family that happens to have to moms instead of a mom and a dad to incest you lose all credability sorry.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Gay marriage . . . has no place in schools, in the library or textbooks, etc."

Too true. And the fact that even the author of the book in questions understood that should be reason enough to fire the librarian that ordered it.

UEA/NEA hates it when we point it out, but there's no question of censorship if the book was never purchased in the first place. Even the ACLU can't make a school library buy a book.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

The book was not promoting Gay marriage,
but rather teaches tolerence and acceptance by highlighting bigotry and hatred.

I think school aged children SHOULD be taught those things.

And you wonder why bullying is still such an issue?

BTW - Book banning was rule #1 in radical right-wing Facsist and Taliban regimes.

And who's the one's pretending to promote Constitutional Freedoms, while FORCING everyone to Choose The Right -- always?

Book banning.
Biggest Red-Flag in trampling our Constitutional, Civil, and Religous ideas regarding freedom.

nonceleb
Salt Lake City, UT

This letter is mind boggling. It compares gay marriage to incest? This book is about being in a loving family where both partners are of the same gender. It is no more about sex than one about a family with heterosexual parents, step-parents or a single parent. All children, even in Utah, know classmates from non-tradtional families. It is teaching them tolerance and not to ostracize, discriminate, ridicule and harrass those who are different.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

I have not read or seen this book so I can not judge it's content. I will say this however, as someone who is looking to go into teaching I feel it is important for children to understand that their classmates come from all different kinds of homes and backgrounds.

My oldest brother lives in rural North Carolina and his kids are the only Mormons at their school. Imagine if all their classmates shunned them simply because of their religion.

If you personally oppose the gay lifestyle because of religious reasons, that's your choice. But the fact of the matter is, your kids are going to hear about it one way or the other. Perhaps seeing this book might actually be beneficial for both your kids and you.

That's just my opinion.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

@embarrassed Utahn!

You said - "Do Utahns even know what "civil liberties" means? The way ACLU bashing occurs here, I think many people here don't deserve any."

You're implication is, the ACLU is above criticism and that people have no right to disagree with them. You also seem to imply that civil liberties is something that only people who agree with your politics, lifestyle or beliefs deserve to have.

Perhaps then you agree that a man named Michael Salman deserved to be sentenced to 60 days in jail and given three years probation for committing the unspeakable crime of holding Bible studies in his house. Apparently he permits from the city to do this, yet the city has never demanded permits for similar neighborhood gatherings such as for poker nights or Monday Night Football parties.

A couple in San Juan Capistrano, California has been threatened with jail by city officials also for holding Bible classes in their home. Yet when a large Super Bowl party was held nearby, the city didn't complain about that.

I would be curious to know how the ACLU feels about cases like this? Perhaps embarrassedUtahn has already answered that question for me.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

This really is ridiculous ---

If it's about promoting the "Leave it to Beaver", "Father Knows Best" black & white "Pleasantville" fictional utopia created in 1950's T.V.

Then we should look at this wholeistically and leave no stone left unturned....

Why not ban books with DIVORCED parents?
or Widowed parents,
or
Minority or Mixed Race Parents
or
Parent worshipping at different Churches, or No churches at all?

And while we're at it -
ban books mentioning Abusive parents,
or
Depressed or Mentally ill parents.

Cherry picking one against all the others is undeniable BIGOTRY.

My heck!
This place drives me insane somedays!

BTW - When you start burning books, burning people is not too far behind.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . I feel it is important for children to understand that their classmates come from all different kinds of homes and backgrounds."

And that's your right. But parents who feel differently about the issue have the same rights as you.

The problem here is that liberals believe only they are smart enough, or open-minded enough, or cosmopolitan enough, or righteous enough to dictate what EVERYONE's kids should learn is school, and therefore, they are the only ones that should have the right to do so.

Then they turn around and call everyone else bigoted.

Too funny!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

"Gay marriage...

[or Races
of genders
or Religion
or Cultures
or physical abilities
or times
or places
or social classes
or different...different...different...]

is a subject to be handled by parents or guardians, period. It has no place in schools, in the library or textbooks, etc. That is called indoctrination."

=========

Fill in the blank and can anyone else see how biased, one-sided, myopic, narrow-minded and bigoted this statement truely is?

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

The teacher/librarian (whoever)decided to put the book "behind the desk" made a tactical error.

He/she should have either NOT bought the bk., or put it on open shelves. In other words: don't buy a bk (out of public funds), then attempt to hide it.

The school district probably already has a policy in place with regards to purchasing materials. I suspect that policy doesn't allow purchased materials to be "hidden".

That is probably why the ACLU has a case. THAT POLICY was probably violated.

merich39
Salt Lake City, UT

The letter writer would have a valid point IF the schools were requiring her child to read this book. Instead, this lawsuit only seeks to end censorship and make the book available to those who want it.

Noodlekaboodle
Millcreek, UT

If we are supposed to get rid of books that discuss polygamy we better remove every book concerning the history of Utah. Every single one of those books talks about polygamy.

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