Oh the jealousy from fans whose program is not in the running. Regarding
national exposure--you're right--Jimmer really suffered from a lack of
national exposure here at BYU, didn't he? With regard to
Manti, not sure why that's an issue in a discussion about Jabari, but
something DID happen on Manti's official visit--he had been to BYU multiple
times on unofficial visits with camps, et cetera before that. What we do know
about it is that his cousin later got kicked off the team for lying to Bronco.
I frankly don't think Manti had anything to do with that. But something
clearly did change with that visit, because BYU was as high on his list as any
other school before the incident, and suddenly he no longer had any interest
Utahcountypuke – Duke is in a league of their own however their league
(ACC) might be falling apart. BYU is also an annual lock for the NCAA
Tournament.Regarding Jimmer’s NBA career, what gives? Jimmer
got all the attention in the world in Provo. Pretty sure a freak athlete like
Parker would get even more.He may go to Duke but, don’t be
surprised if you have to put up with the next Jimmer dominating your local news
again (do they have cable in Cedar Hills wherever that is?)…
Lots of denial happening on the hill about the real possibility of Jabari
choosing BYU. Quite obviously, Jabari could have picked any 5 schools in the
country for his official visits, but he chose BYU as one of those five because
he's legitimately considering becoming a BYU Cougars and playing for one of
the best basketball coaches in the country, Dave Rose.
You either think that BYU was only included in Jabari's final five as a
courtesy and to give his folks a trip to Utah to see family and friends, thereby
giving the other 4 schools a 25 percent chance of winning him, or, you think
that because BYU is in his final 5 and it is such a long-shot, that Jabari must
be leaning heavily toward BYU to have included them, therefore BYU actually has
a 33 percent chance or higher of landing him.
WhyNotThinkRelax man. Just because I cheer for the Utes does not
mean I don't follow the other local instate teams. I'm not jealous,
angry, nor am I switching teams. This is just a big story that caught my
attention. Not only that but my remarks were not disparaging to BYU in any way.
I just made the (accurate) point that the ACC is more desirable to play in than
the WCC. In my opinion, that is a bigger factor than exposure because he will
get plenty of that regardless. Do you disagree?As for what
motivates me to come here, that is easy. Boredom in class/work.
WhyNotThinkSeveral of these Ute fans are upset because the Jabari
fireside was cancelled. It was the closest thing the Utes had to being near a #1
pick.Does that help you understand the Ute mindset?
Questions for Two For FlinchingIf you are a UTE fan why do you care
what happens to the team down south? Perhaps you have decided to join the host
of BYU fans to cheer on the Cougars? Or perhaps you fear that Jabari will go to
BYU? Or perhaps it is pure envy? I would recommend asking yourself what really
motivates you to spend your time on a BYU Cougars Blog. I encourage you to be
honest…. with yourself.
@ WiscougarfanBYU has a fine basketball stadium. It doesn't
compare to Cameron Indoor Stadium or the Breslin Center for that matter. Also,
consider that in the ACC Jabari would have the opportunity to play places like
the Carrier Dome and the Dean Smith Center. As opposed to the Firestone
Fieldhouse and Jenny Craig Pavilion in the WCCI don't know what
factors are going to play into his decision, all I said was that that venues and
caliber of basketball from top to bottom might be influential.
Okay captain semantics, I mean Bluto. A stadium is simply a building with
tiered seating for sporting events. It's is great the WCC has three teams
with great tv exposure. Too bad the ACC has 10 of those. (soon to be more with
conf. expansion).In the conference rankings the WCC is ranked 10th,
just behind the Missouri Valley. The ACC is ranked 4th.Duke would
play 12 games road games a year in great cities with "gyms" that seat
anywhere between 8,000 and 34,000 people (when Syracuse joins). Not only that,
but he would play at home in front of the Cameron Crazies. It's not even
comparable. Duke/ACC >>>> BYU/WCC when it comes to stadiums,
atmosphere, and exposure.Lastly, I never said anything about Utah. I
am aware the program is bad right now. I just gave my honest opinion about this
recruiting situation. Good job on exposing your insecurity about Utah though.
WhatsInItFor MeYea I'm sure ACC Basketball is going to fall
apart. Jabari would be great for the Y, but give me a break BYU vs Duke
no-brainer. ACC basketball isn't going anywhere Duke will always be one of
the 10 top programs in the country, and the education at Duke is far superior to
Because of basketball skills, people assume Jabari is a good kid, and he
probably is, but people think Michael Jordan is an expert on tennis shoes.Go figure.
utahcountyuteGet over your Jimmer jealousy!Regardless of
whether Jimmer is ever anything more than bench player in the NBA, Jimmermania
will live on in the annals of BYU and college basketball history.Jabari knows he could be the next Jimmer for BYU, and that's what's
exciting for BYU fans, knowing that BYU is being seriously considered by Jabari.
RE: Two for flinchingFYI, here are the following seating capacities
for teams being considered.Duke: 9,314BYU: 20,900Michigan State: 14,797Stanford: 7,329Florida: 12,000I
don't know if he needs to worry too much about finding an "amazing
stadium." If the Marriott Center can sell-out for Cal-State Northridge just
because Jabari is coming to watch, imagine the atmosphere if he comes to play.
If he plays for byu he will be pretty neat.
@ Two for FlinchingFirst of all...Basketball is not played in
"Stadiums".It's played in Arena's or Gyms.Gonzaga, St. Mary's and BYU are National programs.With National TV
exposure on a regular basis.The WCC is a Top-10 league, comprised of teams
Utah cannot even compete with.I don't know of any High School
Gyms which seat 4, 5 and 6k fans.BYU plays 8 road games in the WCC,
close to BYU alumni.Great towns and venues. College Basketball at
it's finest.BYU has 16 home games and plays in front of 18-21k
fans.BYU has been Top 10-20 Nationally in attendance for 40
years.And since when does Utah talk arena size and attendance
smack?The U hasn't had a sellout in many many years.10k empty
red chairs is the norm.Utah, picked to finish 12th in the pac
10.2.Hilarious!Utah hasn't ahd a sellout for many many
I wish Duck or Samantha would end the speculation and just tell us where Jabari
will be playing.
The exposure really won't be an issue. What might be an issue is that in
the ACC he will be playing against many great teams in amazing stadiums. In the
WCC there are only a couple of strong teams and mostly high school stadiums.
Needless to say excelling in one is more impressive than excelling in the
86&90UTE: Are you lost? This article is about BYU basketball, not u.
He will not be short any national attention no matter where he plays, assuming
he plays well. Look at the exposure Jimmer got nationally. In his senior year he
got more national exposure than any other player, including those on Duke,
Kentucky, North Carolina, etc. Jimmer never would have gotten the same exposure
had he been on one of those teams. I am not necessarily saying Jabari should go
to BYU. If I was in his position I probably would choose Duke, and I am a huge
BYU fan. But to say he won't get the needed exposure at BYU as compared to
other schools is absurd. No matter where he goes, he will get the exposure if he
@ JparkerfanWell as normal with Bronco you can never get the total
truth,when Manti chose the Irish, Bronco alluded to the fact that something
happened during Manti's visit.Then basically acted like he wasn't
Honor Code worthy anyway.
WhatsinitDuke is in a league of their own when it comes to
basketball. Besides, the only thing that matters in NCAA basketball is if you
make it to the tournament each year and they will.BlutoPOY and yet he is sitting the pine behind (2) guards in SAC town. Not that
impressive.Jabari is going to Duke.
I don't remember Bronco criticizing Manti's choice? I do remember
What i'm waiting to see is if Coach Rose has more class than Roger Reid and
Bronco when Jabari picks another school?I got a gut feeling Coach
Rose is way more classy and he won't bash the kid or his choice of another
school.Bronco how you think Manti's choice of schools is
working out about right now??
Great work BYU students/fans!! Way to represent! Love it when the studentbody
gets involved and makes an effort. I would have loved to see Jabari on Y
mountain. Just hearing about the effort though was impressive. Critics and rivals, knock it off, give it a rest. You all can't even let
people post with some excitement without being incredible critical. I can't
believe one of you actual wrote a 3 paragraph reply on the word
"correct"... is it possible that correct could mean...our school!! Why
wouldn't that be the correct choice in the eyes of a fan?
He's not going on a mission until he retires from basketball. He could sign with UVU and still be the top overall pick in the NBA.
Did the fans go overboard? How can a self professed "FANatic" go
overboard? What the heck, flip and crud. They're having harmless fun. Go
for it. And I do agree with one poster who said the 15000 girls at BYU would
have gotten my attention. Best wishes to Jabari. I hope he goes to
BYU. I hope even more for his sake he gets the chance to serve a full time
mission. But, it's his life and with prayer and thanksgiving he'll
find the best path to trod for himself and his future.
Good for BYU and its fans for doing its best to recruit Jabari. I would be
disappointed if we didn't look and act like we really wanted him to
come.Don't start on the "arrogant" card Utah fans.
After proclaiming for the last 2 1/2 years that you were going to steamroll the
PAC12 - a think a huge dose of humility would be in order. I too
hope Jabari makes the best decision, albeit selfish for me - and that is to come
to BYU. Otherwise good luck wherever you go. You will excel at whichever
school you select.
@Golden HelmetYou protest too much, me thinks.All he said was
"he hopes he makes the correct decision". He never said attending
BYU was the correct decision for him.For Manti Teo, the correct
decision for him was attending Notre Dame. And who can doubt that now?For Bryce Harper it was going straight to the MLB draft.For
Jabari, it's between him and the Lord and nobody should get in the middle
of that.Folks, mind your own business. @GoRedAnd as for
Exposure. The WCC has games on ESPN regularly, while every other BYU game
will be televised Nationally on BYU-TV. In other words
Utefan......Exposure...BYU has it and U don't!As for NBA scouts
finding players, Weber State just had a player taken in the top ten of the first
round. Weber State!NBA scouts know where "all" the talent
is.This notion that you must play on the East Coast to be noticed, is pure
rubbish.BYU just had the Unanimous NPOY, not 2 years ago.
it is not begging. It is appreciation of one of ours and our desire to have him
be at BYU. It is arrogant to suggest that we are begging or that BYU is above
this. This young man is a fine example of athletics and
spirituality. If he chooses BYU it will be a blessing to the University. Basketball is fun and gives us moments of great joy and excitement. I
for one hope Jabari joins us and even if it is only for a year it will be fun to
What if the ACC falls apart (as is being rumored lately) and Duke's no
longer in a major conference? That'd be one less school in the hunt for
Jabari, unless he plans to only play one year and go pro without serving a
mission. Unlikely. Bet he goes on a mission before playing anywhere in college,
if he plans to go on one at all.
It's all going to boil down to exposure and competition. Does Parker want
to play against the nation's best players back east (North Carolina, Duke,
Kentucky, etc.) with its accompanying exposure, or does he want to play in an
insignificant conference out west and get overlooked by the national media as he
prepares to play in the NBA? It will be interesting to see what he chooses.Either way, good luck to this good young man in the future.
"I really hope Jabari makes the correct decision. . ."The
"correct" decision? BYU athletics are great, but their fans are beyond
arrogant. "Correct decision"? Look at it from any standpoint...quality
of basketball? Duke, Michigan State, and Stanford all outweigh BYU. Quality of
education? Stanford and Duke are in a class of their own. LDS influence?
Stanford has as strong an LDS influence as any out of state campus, they are the
only non-LDS school in America to have an LDS meeting house on campus - even
the U's institute is off campus. Stanford's LDS institute is the
second largest in the country, plus you get the real world component not found
in Provo. Nice showing BYU, but don't hold your breath. The
"correct" decision may not be your little bubble past the point of the
Great effort! Will still be tough to Win out over Duke.
Please please please Jabari come to BYU!
The best recruiting tool of all had to be Tyler's 30+ points, knowing
he'll be around to balance the load next year.
Stoop to begging?How about let's not throw cold water on the
efforts of creative and avid fans who love their school and admire a fine young
man who also excels at basketball. It has been exciting to follow
the high school career of this great kid and it will be fun to watch him in
college (hopefully at BYU but really at any school he chooses) and then in the
NBA. Go BYU! Go Jabari!Go away Scrooges.
Desperate and pathetic!!
worf: It's all in fun.
Jabari seems much more mature than I was at his age, but the girl ratio sign
would have had the most impact on me! lol
BYU is a great school, and begging someone to attend is not needed. I'm
sure Jabari is a good basketball player, and it would be great to have him on
the team, but let's not stoop to begging.