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Dick Harmon: Trying to woo high school basketball sensation Jabari Parker, BYU fans get creative

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  • Cougar Passion Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 27, 2012 10:02 a.m.

    Oh the jealousy from fans whose program is not in the running. Regarding national exposure--you're right--Jimmer really suffered from a lack of national exposure here at BYU, didn't he?

    With regard to Manti, not sure why that's an issue in a discussion about Jabari, but something DID happen on Manti's official visit--he had been to BYU multiple times on unofficial visits with camps, et cetera before that. What we do know about it is that his cousin later got kicked off the team for lying to Bronco. I frankly don't think Manti had anything to do with that. But something clearly did change with that visit, because BYU was as high on his list as any other school before the incident, and suddenly he no longer had any interest immediately afterward.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 27, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    Utahcountypuke – Duke is in a league of their own however their league (ACC) might be falling apart. BYU is also an annual lock for the NCAA Tournament.

    Regarding Jimmer’s NBA career, what gives? Jimmer got all the attention in the world in Provo. Pretty sure a freak athlete like Parker would get even more.

    He may go to Duke but, don’t be surprised if you have to put up with the next Jimmer dominating your local news again (do they have cable in Cedar Hills wherever that is?)…

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Nov. 26, 2012 10:55 p.m.

    Lots of denial happening on the hill about the real possibility of Jabari choosing BYU. Quite obviously, Jabari could have picked any 5 schools in the country for his official visits, but he chose BYU as one of those five because he's legitimately considering becoming a BYU Cougars and playing for one of the best basketball coaches in the country, Dave Rose.

  • SpanishImmersed Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 26, 2012 9:42 p.m.

    You either think that BYU was only included in Jabari's final five as a courtesy and to give his folks a trip to Utah to see family and friends, thereby giving the other 4 schools a 25 percent chance of winning him, or, you think that because BYU is in his final 5 and it is such a long-shot, that Jabari must be leaning heavily toward BYU to have included them, therefore BYU actually has a 33 percent chance or higher of landing him.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 5:48 p.m.

    WhyNotThink

    Relax man. Just because I cheer for the Utes does not mean I don't follow the other local instate teams. I'm not jealous, angry, nor am I switching teams. This is just a big story that caught my attention. Not only that but my remarks were not disparaging to BYU in any way. I just made the (accurate) point that the ACC is more desirable to play in than the WCC. In my opinion, that is a bigger factor than exposure because he will get plenty of that regardless. Do you disagree?

    As for what motivates me to come here, that is easy. Boredom in class/work.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 2:46 p.m.

    WhyNotThink

    Several of these Ute fans are upset because the Jabari fireside was cancelled. It was the closest thing the Utes had to being near a #1 pick.

    Does that help you understand the Ute mindset?

  • WhyNotThink North, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 12:12 p.m.

    Questions for Two For Flinching

    If you are a UTE fan why do you care what happens to the team down south? Perhaps you have decided to join the host of BYU fans to cheer on the Cougars? Or perhaps you fear that Jabari will go to BYU? Or perhaps it is pure envy? I would recommend asking yourself what really motivates you to spend your time on a BYU Cougars Blog. I encourage you to be honest…. with yourself.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    @ Wiscougarfan

    BYU has a fine basketball stadium. It doesn't compare to Cameron Indoor Stadium or the Breslin Center for that matter. Also, consider that in the ACC Jabari would have the opportunity to play places like the Carrier Dome and the Dean Smith Center. As opposed to the Firestone Fieldhouse and Jenny Craig Pavilion in the WCC

    I don't know what factors are going to play into his decision, all I said was that that venues and caliber of basketball from top to bottom might be influential.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 11:14 a.m.

    Okay captain semantics, I mean Bluto. A stadium is simply a building with tiered seating for sporting events. It's is great the WCC has three teams with great tv exposure. Too bad the ACC has 10 of those. (soon to be more with conf. expansion).

    In the conference rankings the WCC is ranked 10th, just behind the Missouri Valley. The ACC is ranked 4th.

    Duke would play 12 games road games a year in great cities with "gyms" that seat anywhere between 8,000 and 34,000 people (when Syracuse joins). Not only that, but he would play at home in front of the Cameron Crazies. It's not even comparable. Duke/ACC >>>> BYU/WCC when it comes to stadiums, atmosphere, and exposure.

    Lastly, I never said anything about Utah. I am aware the program is bad right now. I just gave my honest opinion about this recruiting situation. Good job on exposing your insecurity about Utah though.

  • MLH SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 11:11 a.m.

    WhatsInItFor Me

    Yea I'm sure ACC Basketball is going to fall apart. Jabari would be great for the Y, but give me a break BYU vs Duke no-brainer. ACC basketball isn't going anywhere Duke will always be one of the 10 top programs in the country, and the education at Duke is far superior to byu.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 26, 2012 9:48 a.m.

    Because of basketball skills, people assume Jabari is a good kid, and he probably is, but people think Michael Jordan is an expert on tennis shoes.

    Go figure.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 9:28 a.m.

    utahcountyute

    Get over your Jimmer jealousy!

    Regardless of whether Jimmer is ever anything more than bench player in the NBA, Jimmermania will live on in the annals of BYU and college basketball history.

    Jabari knows he could be the next Jimmer for BYU, and that's what's exciting for BYU fans, knowing that BYU is being seriously considered by Jabari.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Nov. 26, 2012 8:47 a.m.

    RE: Two for flinching

    FYI, here are the following seating capacities for teams being considered.

    Duke: 9,314
    BYU: 20,900
    Michigan State: 14,797
    Stanford: 7,329
    Florida: 12,000

    I don't know if he needs to worry too much about finding an "amazing stadium." If the Marriott Center can sell-out for Cal-State Northridge just because Jabari is coming to watch, imagine the atmosphere if he comes to play. Go Cougs!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 8:02 a.m.

    If he plays for byu he will be pretty neat.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 7:08 a.m.

    @ Two for Flinching

    First of all...Basketball is not played in "Stadiums".
    It's played in Arena's or Gyms.

    Gonzaga, St. Mary's and BYU are National programs.
    With National TV exposure on a regular basis.
    The WCC is a Top-10 league, comprised of teams Utah cannot even compete with.

    I don't know of any High School Gyms which seat 4, 5 and 6k fans.

    BYU plays 8 road games in the WCC, close to BYU alumni.
    Great towns and venues. College Basketball at it's finest.
    BYU has 16 home games and plays in front of 18-21k fans.

    BYU has been Top 10-20 Nationally in attendance for 40 years.

    And since when does Utah talk arena size and attendance smack?
    The U hasn't had a sellout in many many years.
    10k empty red chairs is the norm.

    Utah, picked to finish 12th in the pac 10.2.
    Hilarious!

    Utah hasn't ahd a sellout for many many years.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 8:51 p.m.

    I wish Duck or Samantha would end the speculation and just tell us where Jabari will be playing.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    The exposure really won't be an issue. What might be an issue is that in the ACC he will be playing against many great teams in amazing stadiums. In the WCC there are only a couple of strong teams and mostly high school stadiums. Needless to say excelling in one is more impressive than excelling in the other...

  • cougar76 Raleigh, NC
    Nov. 25, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    86&90UTE: Are you lost? This article is about BYU basketball, not u.

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 6:53 p.m.

    He will not be short any national attention no matter where he plays, assuming he plays well. Look at the exposure Jimmer got nationally. In his senior year he got more national exposure than any other player, including those on Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, etc. Jimmer never would have gotten the same exposure had he been on one of those teams. I am not necessarily saying Jabari should go to BYU. If I was in his position I probably would choose Duke, and I am a huge BYU fan. But to say he won't get the needed exposure at BYU as compared to other schools is absurd. No matter where he goes, he will get the exposure if he earns it.

  • camera2head west jordan, utah
    Nov. 25, 2012 5:06 p.m.

    @ Jparkerfan

    Well as normal with Bronco you can never get the total truth,when Manti chose the Irish, Bronco alluded to the fact that something happened during Manti's visit.Then basically acted like he wasn't Honor Code worthy anyway.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 3:45 p.m.

    Whatsinit

    Duke is in a league of their own when it comes to basketball. Besides, the only thing that matters in NCAA basketball is if you make it to the tournament each year and they will.

    Bluto

    POY and yet he is sitting the pine behind (2) guards in SAC town. Not that impressive.

    Jabari is going to Duke.

  • JParkerfan St. George, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 2:54 p.m.

    I don't remember Bronco criticizing Manti's choice? I do remember Reid..

  • camera2head west jordan, utah
    Nov. 25, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    What i'm waiting to see is if Coach Rose has more class than Roger Reid and Bronco when Jabari picks another school?

    I got a gut feeling Coach Rose is way more classy and he won't bash the kid or his choice of another school.

    Bronco how you think Manti's choice of schools is working out about right now??

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Nov. 25, 2012 2:33 p.m.

    Great work BYU students/fans!! Way to represent! Love it when the studentbody gets involved and makes an effort. I would have loved to see Jabari on Y mountain. Just hearing about the effort though was impressive.

    Critics and rivals, knock it off, give it a rest. You all can't even let people post with some excitement without being incredible critical. I can't believe one of you actual wrote a 3 paragraph reply on the word "correct"... is it possible that correct could mean...our school!! Why wouldn't that be the correct choice in the eyes of a fan?

  • Troy06 OREM, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 2:02 p.m.

    He's not going on a mission until he retires from basketball.

    He could sign with UVU and still be the top overall pick in the NBA.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    Did the fans go overboard? How can a self professed "FANatic" go overboard? What the heck, flip and crud. They're having harmless fun. Go for it. And I do agree with one poster who said the 15000 girls at BYU would have gotten my attention.

    Best wishes to Jabari. I hope he goes to BYU. I hope even more for his sake he gets the chance to serve a full time mission. But, it's his life and with prayer and thanksgiving he'll find the best path to trod for himself and his future.

  • Kiboo South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 25, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    Good for BYU and its fans for doing its best to recruit Jabari. I would be disappointed if we didn't look and act like we really wanted him to come.

    Don't start on the "arrogant" card Utah fans. After proclaiming for the last 2 1/2 years that you were going to steamroll the PAC12 - a think a huge dose of humility would be in order.

    I too hope Jabari makes the best decision, albeit selfish for me - and that is to come to BYU. Otherwise good luck wherever you go. You will excel at whichever school you select.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 10:34 a.m.

    @Golden Helmet
    You protest too much, me thinks.
    All he said was "he hopes he makes the correct decision".
    He never said attending BYU was the correct decision for him.

    For Manti Teo, the correct decision for him was attending Notre Dame.
    And who can doubt that now?

    For Bryce Harper it was going straight to the MLB draft.

    For Jabari, it's between him and the Lord and nobody should get in the middle of that.
    Folks, mind your own business.

    @GoRed
    And as for Exposure.
    The WCC has games on ESPN regularly, while every other BYU game will be televised Nationally on BYU-TV. In other words Utefan......Exposure...BYU has it and U don't!

    As for NBA scouts finding players, Weber State just had a player taken in the top ten of the first round. Weber State!

    NBA scouts know where "all" the talent is.
    This notion that you must play on the East Coast to be noticed, is pure rubbish.
    BYU just had the Unanimous NPOY, not 2 years ago.

  • BYU Joe MISSION VIEJO, CA
    Nov. 25, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    it is not begging. It is appreciation of one of ours and our desire to have him be at BYU. It is arrogant to suggest that we are begging or that BYU is above this.

    This young man is a fine example of athletics and spirituality. If he chooses BYU it will be a blessing to the University.

    Basketball is fun and gives us moments of great joy and excitement. I for one hope Jabari joins us and even if it is only for a year it will be fun to have him.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Nov. 25, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    What if the ACC falls apart (as is being rumored lately) and Duke's no longer in a major conference? That'd be one less school in the hunt for Jabari, unless he plans to only play one year and go pro without serving a mission. Unlikely. Bet he goes on a mission before playing anywhere in college, if he plans to go on one at all.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 9:10 a.m.

    It's all going to boil down to exposure and competition. Does Parker want to play against the nation's best players back east (North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, etc.) with its accompanying exposure, or does he want to play in an insignificant conference out west and get overlooked by the national media as he prepares to play in the NBA? It will be interesting to see what he chooses.

    Either way, good luck to this good young man in the future.

  • Golden Helmet Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 8:21 a.m.

    "I really hope Jabari makes the correct decision. . ."

    The "correct" decision? BYU athletics are great, but their fans are beyond arrogant. "Correct decision"? Look at it from any standpoint...quality of basketball? Duke, Michigan State, and Stanford all outweigh BYU. Quality of education? Stanford and Duke are in a class of their own. LDS influence? Stanford has as strong an LDS influence as any out of state campus, they are the only non-LDS school in America to have an LDS meeting house on campus - even the U's institute is off campus. Stanford's LDS institute is the second largest in the country, plus you get the real world component not found in Provo. Nice showing BYU, but don't hold your breath. The "correct" decision may not be your little bubble past the point of the mountain.

  • Ldsfan South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 7:27 a.m.

    Great effort! Will still be tough to Win out over Duke.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Nov. 25, 2012 6:55 a.m.

    Please please please Jabari come to BYU!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 25, 2012 6:43 a.m.

    The best recruiting tool of all had to be Tyler's 30+ points, knowing he'll be around to balance the load next year.

  • Pa. Reader Harrisburg, PA
    Nov. 25, 2012 5:40 a.m.

    Stoop to begging?

    How about let's not throw cold water on the efforts of creative and avid fans who love their school and admire a fine young man who also excels at basketball.

    It has been exciting to follow the high school career of this great kid and it will be fun to watch him in college (hopefully at BYU but really at any school he chooses) and then in the NBA.

    Go BYU! Go Jabari!
    Go away Scrooges.

  • 86&90UTE Holladay, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 1:11 a.m.

    Desperate and pathetic!!

  • SCCougar LEXINGTON, SC
    Nov. 25, 2012 12:30 a.m.

    worf: It's all in fun.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Nov. 25, 2012 12:25 a.m.

    Jabari seems much more mature than I was at his age, but the girl ratio sign would have had the most impact on me! lol

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 24, 2012 11:55 p.m.

    BYU is a great school, and begging someone to attend is not needed. I'm sure Jabari is a good basketball player, and it would be great to have him on the team, but let's not stoop to begging.