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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 21 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

RedShirt,

Did I say anything about communism or socialism? I mentioned only cooperative economics, which is different from both. Please at least read before responding.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

RedShirt,

To quote Kent C. DeForrest:

“Did I say anything about communism or socialism? I mentioned only cooperative economics, which is different from both. Please at least read before responding.”

I am not only fond of capitalism; I study markets for a living (or at least part of it). Specifically, I am an advocate of the semi-strong version of the Efficient Market Hypothesis. I think markets do LOTS of things well, but that there are some inefficiencies in the best markets and that some markets are more efficient than others.

I fully agree with the First Presidency statement you quoted. My point was simply that you were misreading the text of the Proclamation on the Economy. Nothing more.

We can all talk here. But please, let’s stick to reality.

the truth
Holladay, UT

AS I have stated before,

LDS Liberal does not understand the principle of Agency.

Heaven is neither communistic NOR socialistic.,

Heaven operates on the principle of Agency of Man, Free will.

People do good and do right based on their choice.

Zion was created on earth by the same principle.

AS the scriptures state it is not good thing if man must be commanded (or compelled by a central government) to do good or do what is right.

Capitalism works,
but men are imperfect.

But if men are taught correct principles they can govern themselves, and it is the ONLY way Zion is created.

Maybe the left should arguing about which principle we should be teaching, that is just an excuse to teach no principles, and thus exacerbate the problems you can encounter in Capitalism with unprincipled and immoral people, such as greed,

and imposing a tyrannical government to control all people anf corporations, and well... everything and everyone.

What price for true freedom will are you willing to pay? And what risks are you willing to live with?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" here is proof that families are not socialism or communism.

Are your children on all of your deeds and titles?

Do your children pay an equal portion of your bills?

When your children moved out did they take their portion of your savings, 401K, or any stocks with them?

Do your children have equal access to your bank account that you do?

When your children had summer jobs, was their income added to the family checking account?

Did your children have equal privileges to you their entire life?

You claim to redistribute your excess wealth to your country, so tell us, what is the balance of your 401K? Is it $0?

If you say no to any of those, you are clinging to capitalism.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Seriously Red Shirt..do you not listen or comprehend at all..clinging to capitalism? How many times do you have to be told probably all liberals on this blog are capitalists. You're the one who doesn't understand capitalism...the good it does, and the bad it's capable of.

You really are making yourself look silly and uninformed with your constant distortions. I would bet that most of the "socialist liberals" you seem to find here have done very well by the capitalist system. Not because they are trying to destroy it but because they understand it. None of which precludes their understaning of the need for an economic system that promotes the common good.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "pragmatistferlife" what distortions? The only distortions are the ones that make socialism or communism look like viable social-economic systems. Whenever they are tried, they always end in failure. Capitalism works, until it is so burdened with socialism that it collapses both systems.

You are the one who does not understand capitalism.

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