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Published: Tuesday, Nov. 20 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

But have you noticed that obese children almost always have obese parents?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mayor Bloomberg of New York did --

And the radical right completely blew a gasket over it.

VIDAR
Murray, UT

I believe the majority of our health care cost are spent on the elderly: perhaps we should encourage them to exercise and eat better.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Vidar, in case you haven't noticed, we older folks are often doing just that. And many of us are in better shape than some of our twelve year old neighbors and their parents.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Video games and a sense of entitlement.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" since when has anybody been able to legislate their way to changing people's attitudes and behaviors?

Have we eliminated smoking? How about alcohol abuse? Poverty? Selfishness? Profanity?

At best the government can tax it and make it difficult, but they never are able to directly change people's attitudes.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT
To "LDS Liberal" since when has anybody been able to legislate their way to changing people's attitudes and behaviors?

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Hahaha!

My Red - that has sunk you to an all time low.

Are you kidding me? Seriously?!

Republicans (especially here in Free Agency Utah, USA 84000) try to do this all the time.

[and for the last time - Prohibition [Amndmnt 18] was a CONSERRVATIVE value and agenda, not a Liberal one].
Thank heavens the 21st repealled it.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

No one has ever said that government is the answer but it can be the navigator, right RedShirt? I prefer the ship be making 'progress' rather than 300 million directions. Government should also be the 'ultimate' consumer protection agency that protects us not only from the enemy from afar but the bigger enemy from within. A poison is a poison whether it comes from Bin Laden or Hostess.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" prohibition was LIBERAL invention. President Woodrow Wilson was the one who pushed it, fought for it, and started it out with a federal mandate during WW I. Last I checked, he was an uber liberal, he was a leader of the Progressive movement.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" - Thomas Jefferson

To "ugottabkidn" wrong. Liberals and Progressives have always claimed that the government should be the 'ultimate' consumer protection agency. If you bothered to read the Democrat Party Platform, on their own website, they want to use government to be the answer.

one old man
Ogden, UT

And once again we find RedShirt doesn't really know what he's spouting.

The quote he attributes to Thomas Jefferson was really from George Santayana.

Ah, well . . . .

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" - Thomas Jefferson

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Agreed.
Which is why I keep such a close eye on America's radical-ultra-far-right-wing.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." ~ Lewis Sinclair

FYI - Thomas Jefferson never said that, it was George Santayana -- a Liberal Spanish American Philosopher.
Glenn Beck University has once again led you down another historical fib.

But when have you ever let facts and the truth stand in the way of your agenda?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" if it wasn't so well documented that you and your ilk are following along into the failed path of socialism, what you say would be laughable.

You claim that you are trying to avoid the failures of history, yet you and your ilk want to establish a universal care which failes every time.

You fully support socialism, which has yet to do better than capitalism and only survives today because it has been allowed to leech off of capitalism.

You believe that the government is competent at helping meet people's basic needs, yet history has shown that it just destroys lives.

If you do as you claim, why be a liberal, the ideas are stale and have failed throughout history.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

RedShirt, Claiming that you know exactly what someone else thinks, and then listing these beliefs that you make up is certainly one way to win an argument, one that radio comedians use all the time.

But most people see thru it.

Also please elaborate on what countries or historical societies have used pure capitalism and thrived.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

the radical right doesn't care. They'd gladly raise taxes on food as long as taxes for the rich either stay the same/decrease.

Hence, why they're moving towards irrelevance politically.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT
To "LDS Liberal" if it wasn't so well documented that you and your ilk are following along into the failed path of socialism, what you say would be laughable.

If you do as you claim, why be a liberal, the ideas are stale and have failed throughout history.

3:51 p.m. Nov. 20, 2012

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Failed? really?

I disagree.

One City did it, and it worked so good, that God took them up unto himself.

Are calling Enoch a failure?

Then why has every civilization ever since Enoch tried to immulate it?

Jesus Christ himself establishing it among the Nephites.
or do you not believe the Book of Mormon to be true Red?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" the city of Enoch did not live socialism. The individuals were concerned for their neighbors. They did not rely on the hands of others to provide for the poor and needy. The same can be said about the Nephites.

Obviously you have missed the Prophets who have been clear that Socialism is not the same as the United Order.

Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production and distribution of goods. The United Order is individual ownership of property, means of production, and distribution, and is a completely voluntary system.

Read D&C 134:2 "We believe that no government can exist in peace, except such laws are framed and held inviolate as will secure to each individual the free exercise of conscience, the right and control of property, and the protection of life." What that means is socialism where governmetn controls property and takes away the free exercise of conscience is against the gospel.

You do believe that the D&C true don't you?

wrz
Ogden, UT

"We should focus on the reasons for rising medical"

Not to worry. With Obamacare, when everyone's medical bills will be paid by the government, government healthcare panels will soon tell you what you can and cannot put into your body. For one thing, Twinkies and Ho Ho's will be off the table.

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