I totally agree. Every Limbaugh, Savage, Oreilly and other AM 'talk'
host, and the entire supposed 'fair and balanced' fox organisation,
totally lost themselves and their credibility in this past election cycle. The
election night denial meltdown of rove on fox is classic. This kind of bias and
lack of ethics, let alone the disconnect from reality, has to stop. It's
time to start reporting reality again, and if the republican party is becoming
self irrelevant is reality, report it.
In the private universe inhabited by today's version of the GOP, any news
that disproves or causes embarrassment to the conservative groupthink is deemed
"biased."
Here's a fundamental reality that
conservatives must accept - painful truths are not your enemies, and comforting
lies are not your friends. Learn that lesson, or accept that the destiny of
your party is to accellerate itself into ever greater ridicule and irrelevancy.
'Fair and Balanced'? Has a familiar ring to it. In 1987 the FCC
removed the 'fairness doctrine' as a requirement for
broadcasters.Originally, The fairness doctrine was supposed to ensure that
viewers would be exposed to all kinds of viewpoints. Because the broadcast
spectrum was limited, it was felt that each outlet had a responsibility to show
more than one side of an issue. With the proliferation of cable and the
internet, that argument lost its impact. Now all broadcasters are
'free' - free to put their own spin on the news. And we consumers are
'free' - free to listen to whichever viewpoints reinforce our own
conceptions or misconceptions. Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olbermann are the logical
consequences of such thinking.
Who is the mainstream media and how much information flow do they control? The
newspaper with the largest circulation (including digital subscriptions) is the
Wall Street Journal, with a circulation of about 2.3 million. To me, the WSJ has
a conservative bias. The second largest circulating paper is USA Today (1.7
million). I have not noted a liberal bias there, either. The NY Times, which I
imagine is the focus of many media bias claims is third at 1.614 million. Others
in the top ten include the NY Post and the Chicago Sun Times. They both seem
quite conservative to me.
Although Fox News viewership has been
dropping slightly it is still the dominant cable news network.
Can someone tell me who the mainstream media is and
who it is NOT?
I absolutely see some media that have easily
recognizable political leanings. Fox and MSNBC probably lead the pack.
But, the claims seem to muddy after that. People on the right seem to have
the mentality that if it does not lean clearly to the right, than it is left
leaning.
So again, what mainstream media is NOT liberal. A short
list would be appreciated.
Yes, Grace, I too recognize that the mainstream media, ie, FOX "News",
Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, The Wall Street Journal, talk radio,
Ann Coulter, Micheal Malkin, Mark Levin, etc, hold far too much power. And I
also agree that this chattering class on the Right is far too controlled by the
Republican Party. And I also agree, Grace, that they hold far too much sway over
the voters, after all you see their silly, highly misleading arguments
everywhere.
Some of you people just don't understand! For example:Gay marriage and
marijuana being legalized on the same day in Washington State. Leviticus
20:13: "If a man lays with another man he should be stoned." We've just been interpreting it incorrectly for all these years!
@ Hutterite and Blue. Yep, you guys must be right! That explains why rating of
NBC, CBS and ABC news are plummeting in America while Fox News ratings are the
highest in the nation among news outlets; Fox News viewers are all deluded! The
truth is all people see the world, not as it really is but as THEY really are!
Enjoy your "news" (read left wing spin) from your fountains of truth!
Free speech is not just for liberals anymore! If a liberal disagrees with a
conservative, liberals call it free speech! If a conservative disagrees with a
liberal, liberals call it "hate speech"!
First of all Grace what would unbiased mean? If the unemployment rate comes
down from 10% in Sep. of 2010 (the height of the recession) to 7.9% in Sep. of
2012, does unbiased mean a) the unemployment rate has come down 2.1% in the last
three years b)things are better off today than they were three years ago, or
c)the unemployment rate is not coming down fast enough?
Secondly,
the most watched "news" networks were created to give opinions. I
personally mostly watch MSNBC but I do so for their opinions (and I love the DVR
so I can fast forward through the opinions I don't find useful). Same with
FOX. I watch that occassionaly also..for their opinions. The world has changed
Grace, it doesn't look like 1955. The network that does the most unbiased
job of reporting is PBS. Otherwise it's an opinion frenzy.
If you get your news from TV you'll never know what's going on in this
country. All TV networks are owned by corporate behemoths and tell you want
their corporate masters want you to know. If you want real news and opinion you
have to read, preferably small independent sources. I like "the American
Prospect", and "the American Conservative". One is liberal, one is
conservative, but they both give a wide range of opinions that are well
reasoned, and well written.
Although he ignores the irrefutable fact that the mainstream media is clearly
biased in favor of left-wing extremism, Roland has made a good point. The
general public is to simple-minded and gullible to discern the truth or falsity
of what they see on the news.
As proven by the last election, the
ignorant masses simply follow the beat of the leftist media drum. The masses do
not bother to educate or inform themselves about the issues, so they simply pick
the candidate whom the news portrays as most likely to provide graft and
freebies.
Clearly, this letter is correct in its condemnation of the
leftist media. However, it stops short when it fails to condemn the ignorant
masses who accept the biased propaganda. If we want a better country, we must
have better voters. The time has come to recognize that voting should be a
privilege limited to only those who demonstrate that they have the ability and
the determination to be educated and informed.
@JCS: "The time has come to recognize that voting should be a privilege
limited to only those who demonstrate that they have the ability and the
determination to be educated and informed."
Meaning, of course,
people just like you. The others are "ignorant masses." Right?
The media is overwhelmingly liberal. When they report on a subject they express
the issue from their own political bias and then to counterbalance they begin
with "Conservatives say...." The clear implication is that they have
spoken the truth and the alternative view is not the truth. Most on MSNBC and
several on Fox News are so far off that it qualifies as comedy. The widespread
ignorance of the masses led early frames of our republic to have indirect
elections, not very democratic but fashioned to prevent the tyranny of the
masses. Things haven't changed much.
I totally agree. Every Limbaugh, Savage, Oreilly and other AM 'talk' host, and the entire supposed 'fair and balanced' fox organisation, totally lost themselves and their credibility in this past election cycle. The election night denial meltdown of rove on fox is classic. This kind of bias and lack of ethics, let alone the disconnect from reality, has to stop. It's time to start reporting reality again, and if the republican party is becoming self irrelevant is reality, report it.
In the private universe inhabited by today's version of the GOP, any news that disproves or causes embarrassment to the conservative groupthink is deemed "biased."
Here's a fundamental reality that conservatives must accept - painful truths are not your enemies, and comforting lies are not your friends. Learn that lesson, or accept that the destiny of your party is to accellerate itself into ever greater ridicule and irrelevancy.
'Fair and Balanced'? Has a familiar ring to it. In 1987 the FCC removed the 'fairness doctrine' as a requirement for broadcasters.Originally, The fairness doctrine was supposed to ensure that viewers would be exposed to all kinds of viewpoints. Because the broadcast spectrum was limited, it was felt that each outlet had a responsibility to show more than one side of an issue. With the proliferation of cable and the internet, that argument lost its impact. Now all broadcasters are 'free' - free to put their own spin on the news. And we consumers are 'free' - free to listen to whichever viewpoints reinforce our own conceptions or misconceptions. Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olbermann are the logical consequences of such thinking.
Surprising that the DN would publish Grace's critical assessment of its biased coverage of the election.
Or is the bias in the eye of the beholder? Especially when the beholder's favorite candidate loses?
Who is the mainstream media and how much information flow do they control? The newspaper with the largest circulation (including digital subscriptions) is the Wall Street Journal, with a circulation of about 2.3 million. To me, the WSJ has a conservative bias. The second largest circulating paper is USA Today (1.7 million). I have not noted a liberal bias there, either. The NY Times, which I imagine is the focus of many media bias claims is third at 1.614 million. Others in the top ten include the NY Post and the Chicago Sun Times. They both seem quite conservative to me.
Although Fox News viewership has been dropping slightly it is still the dominant cable news network.
So subjective.
Can someone tell me who the mainstream media is and who it is NOT?
I absolutely see some media that have easily recognizable political leanings. Fox and MSNBC probably lead the pack.
But, the claims seem to muddy after that. People on the right seem to have the mentality that if it does not lean clearly to the right, than it is left leaning.
So again, what mainstream media is NOT liberal. A short list would be appreciated.
Yes, Grace, I too recognize that the mainstream media, ie, FOX "News", Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, The Wall Street Journal, talk radio, Ann Coulter, Micheal Malkin, Mark Levin, etc, hold far too much power. And I also agree that this chattering class on the Right is far too controlled by the Republican Party. And I also agree, Grace, that they hold far too much sway over the voters, after all you see their silly, highly misleading arguments everywhere.
But, it's a free country, so what's you gonna do?
I agree, FOX news that is blasted everywhere here is blatantly biased. How do you have Carl Rove as a commentator and still call it journalism?
Some of you people just don't understand! For example:Gay marriage and marijuana being legalized on the same day in Washington State.
Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lays with another man he should be stoned."
We've just been interpreting it incorrectly for all these years!
It is easy to make gross generalizations about media bias, but can you give us some convincing evidence?
@ Hutterite and Blue. Yep, you guys must be right! That explains why rating of NBC, CBS and ABC news are plummeting in America while Fox News ratings are the highest in the nation among news outlets; Fox News viewers are all deluded! The truth is all people see the world, not as it really is but as THEY really are! Enjoy your "news" (read left wing spin) from your fountains of truth! Free speech is not just for liberals anymore! If a liberal disagrees with a conservative, liberals call it free speech! If a conservative disagrees with a liberal, liberals call it "hate speech"!
First of all Grace what would unbiased mean? If the unemployment rate comes down from 10% in Sep. of 2010 (the height of the recession) to 7.9% in Sep. of 2012, does unbiased mean a) the unemployment rate has come down 2.1% in the last three years b)things are better off today than they were three years ago, or c)the unemployment rate is not coming down fast enough?
Secondly, the most watched "news" networks were created to give opinions. I personally mostly watch MSNBC but I do so for their opinions (and I love the DVR so I can fast forward through the opinions I don't find useful). Same with FOX. I watch that occassionaly also..for their opinions. The world has changed Grace, it doesn't look like 1955. The network that does the most unbiased job of reporting is PBS. Otherwise it's an opinion frenzy.
If you get your news from TV you'll never know what's going on in this country. All TV networks are owned by corporate behemoths and tell you want their corporate masters want you to know. If you want real news and opinion you have to read, preferably small independent sources. I like "the American Prospect", and "the American Conservative". One is liberal, one is conservative, but they both give a wide range of opinions that are well reasoned, and well written.
Although he ignores the irrefutable fact that the mainstream media is clearly biased in favor of left-wing extremism, Roland has made a good point. The general public is to simple-minded and gullible to discern the truth or falsity of what they see on the news.
As proven by the last election, the ignorant masses simply follow the beat of the leftist media drum. The masses do not bother to educate or inform themselves about the issues, so they simply pick the candidate whom the news portrays as most likely to provide graft and freebies.
Clearly, this letter is correct in its condemnation of the leftist media. However, it stops short when it fails to condemn the ignorant masses who accept the biased propaganda. If we want a better country, we must have better voters. The time has come to recognize that voting should be a privilege limited to only those who demonstrate that they have the ability and the determination to be educated and informed.
If the nation were to adopt the "standards" for voting advocated by JCS, he would be unable to vote.
@JCS: "The time has come to recognize that voting should be a privilege limited to only those who demonstrate that they have the ability and the determination to be educated and informed."
Meaning, of course, people just like you. The others are "ignorant masses." Right?
The media is overwhelmingly liberal. When they report on a subject they express the issue from their own political bias and then to counterbalance they begin with "Conservatives say...." The clear implication is that they have spoken the truth and the alternative view is not the truth. Most on MSNBC and several on Fox News are so far off that it qualifies as comedy. The widespread ignorance of the masses led early frames of our republic to have indirect elections, not very democratic but fashioned to prevent the tyranny of the masses. Things haven't changed much.
Mtn Man:
John 8:7
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
Hemlock: "The media is overwhelmingly liberal. "
Not true. Reality, however, does indeed tilt towards liberal.
Side note: If this newspaper were any more biased in favor of Mitt Romney it would have to include Pom- Poms with each issue.
"Leviticus 20:13: "If a man lays with another man he should be stoned."
We've just been interpreting it incorrectly for all these years!"
Too funny Mountanman. I guess conservatives can have a sense of humor.
Thanks for the chuckle.
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