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Published: Friday, Nov. 16 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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CHS 85
Sandy, UT

While you're naming presidential accomplishments and unification, you may have forgotten some. How about Nixon leaving the White House in disgrace splintering the country with Vietnam and Watergate? What about Clinton balancing the federal budget? What about Thomas Jefferson acquiring the Louisiana Purchase and doubling the size of the country? What about Hoover overseing the greatest economic collapse in US history splintering the country into haves and have nots with 25% unemployment? What about Buchanan who was President when the rebels seceded at Ft. Sumter? What about Theodore Roosevelt who used the Antiquities Act to lock up vast tracts of land dividing the people of the west?

You provided such a subjective list, that I thought I'd add to it.

BTW, you look at the Bushes as squelching aggression. While maybe true for Bush I, Bush II was far from the benevolent liberator.

Mad Hatter
Provo, UT

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

More noise from the wingnut fringe. We already know the drill. Must we put up with this nonsense for another four years?

And who, pray tell, would bring us all together? That guy was defeated after writing off 47% of the population. But then, the conservative extremists never were very concerned about anyone remotely different from themselves. They talk of "moochers" and "illegals" and "women who can't remember their place" and young people who want "gifts from the government". Not very inclusive.

William Gronberg
Payson, UT

"Previous presidents strengthened the U.S. and united it..."

Richard Nixon and Watergate did not. President Kennedy was very unpopular with many folks in 1961. The election of Abraham Lincoln, from the Southern slave state point of view, forced them to do what they did.

"...the Constitution, the greatest God-inspired civil document;"

Under the original Constitution Black Americans would only counted as 60% of a person today. Using the original Constitution and also the Bill of Rights, slavery existed for over 70 years. The Constitution allowed for drastically needed improvements through Amendments. That was indeed inspired.

"Wilson and Roosevelt protected the U.S. from foreign aggressors;".

But according to many unhappy citizens today, they started this whole “Socialist” mess we are in today.

“Obama proceeded to fundamentally change America by forcing medical care upon U.S. Citizens...”

Medicare was passed by the Congress and signed by President Johnson in 1965. In 1972 it expanded to cover youths with disabilities. In 2001 and 2003 Congress expanded Medicare further. 1965 was 47 years ago and the President was about 4 years old then.

All citizens “...need to continue to abide by the Constitution...”.

Amen.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Obama proceeded to fundamentally change America by forcing medical care upon U.S. citizens and overruled constitutional laws by his executive orders, etc."

Yes Don. Obama did champion a Republican Health Care Idea and put it into law (much as Mitt Romney did for Mass)

And Yes Don, Obama has used "executive orders". (however, at a slower clip that any of his recent Republican counterparts.)

Consistency Don, that's all I ask for.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

We are a nation of diverse ideas. There will never be 100% agreement on anything.

Obama's re-election victory was achieved with a larger margin of the popular vote than Bush's re-election in 2004.

Doesn't that mean that President Bush splintered the nation more than Obama?

But this is silly.

Obama won and had significantly more than 50% of the popular vote, and turnout was high. His election is based with an honest majority of voters, not a plurality. He is the president, and in spite of conservative fringe fantasies, he's politically very moderate.

There's important work to be done. Quit whining and start helping.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

Don, let's be honest and admit that your perception is that if your guy is in office things are always rosy because you look the other way. If it's the other guy then every pimple blows up under a microscope. I'm sorry but the divisiveness is caused intentionally by not the leader but by the followers, especially in this case.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Oh my..should anyone wonder why the Republican brand has lost it's appeal nationaly, and hasn't been able to reach the 50% mark in 5 of the last 6 Presidential elections..I would suggest they read this bubble letter.

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

"The Election made me wonder how we could arrive at another four years of an Obama Administration."

I'll explain.

H was up against Mitt Romney.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Welcome to the new norm

Further divisiveness as evidenced by BO's consistent class warfare and the first 8 comments.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

FDR and Lincoln were both despised by a significant portion of the American population.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

Gotta blame the Republicans on the division, who vowed to make sure Obama failed.

Libya is an excellent example. Terrorists attacked American citizens. How do the Republicans react? Do they join the nation in getting the terrorists? No, they are working hard to get the administration. What have they come up with so far? Outrage (outrage!!) that the administration went public with the unclassified assessment (outrage over a film) instead of the classified assessment (terrorist attack).

That's it? Republicans think the administration should release classified material in the press releases? Its just political bluster, and it emboldens the terrorists.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Don's letter should somehow be preserved for future generations, but not because it was a great letter. What it shows us (and future historians) is the level of truculence that has been grafted by vampire AM radio and Tea Party know nothings onto what HAD been an admirable entity - The Republican Party.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@Moderate
Did Democrats not want to make Bush a one term president also? So how is it that you are more of a victim of Republicans now?

You blame Republicans for not "getting the terrorists" while excusing Obama for obfuscating that it even was terrorists.

That, sir, is NOT the arguments of a MODERATE; they are merely the apologist excuses of a left-wing partisan

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Counter

Of course both political parties want to win the presidency.

There are however, different ways to go about it.

If it becomes your NUMBER ONE GOAL, as stated by Mitch Mcconnell, then it is a greater priority than doing good work for the country. By definition, doing what is best for the county had to take a lesser priority.

See the difference?

Mike in Sandy
Sandy, UT

Every single bill, proposal, and step forward proposed by the dems the last 4 years was unanimously and unceremoniously dismissed out of hand by the GOP.

"Party first, honor second" should be on the top of their letterhead.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

@CI;

Sure, Dems wanted Bush to be a one-term President. The difference though, is that they didn't sabotage every little thing that Bush tried to do. They actually cooperated with him. The Republicans made ousting Obama in 4 years their number one priority instead of working on an economic recovery.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

This election was not fair at all. If it was, the Green party candidate wouldn't have been arrested just for showing up wanting to excercise her right to debate these two corporate tyrants. She was arrested twice and detained for 8 hours each time for just wanting to debate Obama and Romney.

I am so sick of the mass media playing their race card to stiffle dissent. Literally any form of dissent is considered "racist" just fill in the blank and it's considered "racist" You know, what, I'm totally fearless, They can bury me in their pathetic race card. Thats all these tyrants can do. I know plenty of black people that think Obama and Romney are full of it. When they play their race card they will have nothing else left. They can take me to their FEMA camps and do whatever they like, it will just make me and people like me a martyr.

I laugh at those who compare wanting to be independent to being apostate. I don't want to be dependant on the government my entire life. I want a future and I don't want America to be Hitlers dreamland.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Hey, when I was a kid, we made our annual visit to Utah to visit relatives, and stopped at the Truman library on the way. When my grandmother found out, she refused to feed us. She had this whole spread laid out on the table; it got packed up and put in the fridge, and we had to go to a local restaurant instead. So yeah, some people take politics real seriously.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

Are they going to deport me fo excercising my 1st amendment? Are they going to deport me for not wanting to live in slavery? Are they going to deport me for not wanting the Drug war? Are they going to deport me for wanting a non-partisan government? Do they want to deport me for not wantin to live under the NDAA? Do they want to deport me for not wanting to lived under the foreign special interest two-party authoritarian oligarchy?

Of course this country is broke so when I think of deportation, I think of the nazi form of deportation. Let them do their worse? If they want to put me to death for being an intellectual revolutionary, let them. Like obi-wan kenobi says, "If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

Christian 24-7
Murray, UT

The spirit of divisiveness has come from the president and the democrats in congress. In the first 2 years of Obama's presidency, the republicans were not permitted to even attend the meetings crafting the unaffordable health care act, or much of any legislation. No republican input, no voice, no respect. Total divide, by Demos.

Then there is the constant class warfare drumbeat, with a shadow racial implication, coming from the president himself. His unity speeches are purely hypocritical. He is the ultimate divider. All the blind Obama worship doesn't change the real facts. And while you are nodding your head at his every word, realize that uniting barely half the country is not unity. It is dividing the country in half.

Divide and conquer has been the Democrat strategy, with the president leading the way. Just look at how inflammatory the comments of his followers. Rude, disrespectful, insulting beyond belief. It comes from the top down.

Sadly, divide and conquer has been effective, of course having the backing of most the media has helped. All those who work, or wish to work, will pay the price for it.

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