Published: Friday, Nov. 16 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
What it appears that Mr Crippen does not understand is that raising the debt
ceiling allows the govt to pay for things previously purchased.But,
stick with your erroneous narrative, if that makes you feel better.
Cell phones and food stamps..what a misinformed rant. The "Obama" cell
phone, where did that come from? It came from a government program that gives
certain low income people basic access to telecommunications. Where did this
program come from..who started it..wait, wait drumroll..Roland Regan. Yup,
it's a Roland Regan progam that has morphed over the decades from land line
access to cell phones. Bad mouthing food stamps who's use
increased in the middle of the worst economic downturn in 70 years is just
immoral. Especially when the downturn was caused by an internal failure of the
very economy that is suppose to provide food and shelter.
Seriously...I can't believe some of the letters that get published here.Makes for lots of laughs though.
@ Pragmatist. Roland Regan? Who is Roland Regan? If you meant Ronald Reagan, why
are they not called Ronald Reagan phones instead of Obama phones? Ronald Reagan
never, I repeat, never offered free phone for anyone! Come on man, stop lying to
Its scary that people actually believe stuff like this.
Can Mr. Obama really blame the House Republicans for his financial problems when
he could not find a single friend in the Senate to support his budget. Are we to
believe that all one-hundred Senators are complete simpletons because they would
not vote for his budget?The House is the only part of government
that has kept us from bankruptcy. The House is the only part of government that
seems to know anything abut economics. The House refuses to let Mr. Obama bully
them into destroying this country.If Mr. Obama wants change, maybe
he should change his attitude. The only people who agree with him are those who
want some "rich guy" to pay their way through life.Let him
rant. He's just proving that he cannot negotiate and that his budget has no
merit. Wise people will ignore his tantrums.
@Mountanman,PragmatistTry doing a little research, Regan did offer free
phones to low income people. Why isn't it called a Regan phone? Because the
republicans are trying to use it against Obama and it wouldn't look good
for them to brand St. Regan as a guy who give away free stuff. It's called
the LifeLine program. It was started in 1984, under the Regan administration.
However, it's not paid directly with tax money. If you look at your phone
bill and see the USF(universal service fund) fee that is where the money comes
from. Initially the plan only covered land lines, but in 2008 the Bush
administration extended the program to include cell phones due to the increase
in their use and the decrease in landline use. All Obama did was have the FCC
look into tighter regulation and an overhaul of the program due to a spike in
costs after cell phones were approved for the program. All of this info is
available if you search Obama Phone on the Snopes website.
Keep it up, Republicans. This kind of bitterness and mendacity is ensuring
future Democratic election victories.
Mountainman writes "Ronald Reagan never, I repeat, never offered free phone
for anyone! Come on man, stop lying to yourself!"Unless of
course one takes the time to look into the "lifeline program" signed
into law by Ronald Reagan.
What is most frightening about our country today is how many people, for
whatever reason, make no attempt to learn the TRUTH before writing letters or
starting to shout.Doing so is nothing but sheer stupidity.Unfortunately, stupidity seems to be highly contagious.
The phones Ronald Reagan promoted to the poor had to be paid for by the
recipients! Therefore, while they were accessed at a discount,they were not
free! Do some research before you bloviate!
Just another example of a GOP program or idea that gets blasted the minute Obama
Obama has no friends in Washington. The Senate handed him his hat as they
embarrassed him in front of the world when they told him that his budget
wasn't worth even one vote. He publically denounced the Court. The House
thumbed their collective nose at him.So what does he do? He flies
around the country telling us what fools we are for voting for our
Representatives.Some Democrats cheer him on. Did they go to school
together? Did they listen to the same extremist professors? More importantly,
do they realize that they are going to get the biggest tax increase of their
lives if Congress lets him increase taxes by $1.6 trillion. Raising taxes on
the rich will only raise raise taxes by a measely $60 billion a year. Go ahead.
Cheer him on, but first open YOUR wallets. Get used to being poor.
MountanmanSorry, but no. The free phone program is called Lifeline and
was originated in 1984. And no, recipients do not pay for it, nor does the
federal government. It's paid for by telecommunication companies;
essentially it's a tax on them. So this letter is factually wrong, in
addition to being insulting.
Not raising the debt ceiling would've crashed us into another recession and
the Republicans would've been squarely to blame for all the ensuing carnage
if they didn't immediately reverse position and agree to raise the debt
ceiling. No, doing what the letter writer suggests would've given Democrats
the House.@Mountanman"If you meant Ronald Reagan, why are
they not called Ronald Reagan phones instead of Obama phones? "Obama is typically given the credit/blame for the auto bailout but that was
started by Bush. Things aren't always ascribed to who started them. The
reason they're called Obama phones is because this was a conservative
attack directed at Obama to try and portray Democrats, and particularly black
people, as lazy moochers. The fact that Reagan started it or that it turned into
cell phones under Bush... well that's just an inconvenient detail
that's ignored by those who want to use it as an attack on Obama. Then
people pass along the incomplete information they were given.
@ Eric Samuelson. I looked into what you said and you are correct! My apologies
This letter is a perfect example of the class warfare being waged by the
righties. It's downright scary and not the kind of America I
want. Which is why I was so grateful that they were denied power!
The majority of the people from this great country placed the hate, the
rhetoric, and the class warfare from the right wing in the garbage. Which is exactly where this letter deserves to be thrown into. Pathetic.
Mountanman, way to own up! We know that the libs would never do that.By the way, Obama phones are the perfect Democratic plan, in that they follow
the Demos' MO.Take someone else's idea and someone
else's money, and use it to buy votes for you guys.
Noodlekaboodle quote:"Regan did offer free phones to low income
people. Why isn't it called a Regan phone? Because the republicans are
trying to use it against Obama and it wouldn't look good for them to brand
St. Regan as a guy who give away free stuff."Really???? That
makes no sense.Now, for the sake of argument, I will just assume it
was a Reagan program as you say. Consider this: Someone
gave those people phones. Those people were told that the phones were from
Obama. Who would tell them that lie? Not the republicans,
because that lie would give Obama and democrats more votes. Democrats? Yes, that makes sense. Democrats would benefit from telling that
lie. They would win votes, many votes.Is it so hard to see the
"Mountanman, way to own up! We know that the libs would never do that."
Christian 24-7What a pompous thing to say. When you present facts,
regardless of your political leaning, you are never in need of 'owning
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