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Published: Thursday, Nov. 15 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"Providing incentives for businessmen to hire more workers is the lowest cost path to increasing revenues",is a lie.

George
Bronx, NY

ladies and gentleman the new professional victims formally known as the GOP.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Well, he did win. So why shouldn't he exert his legitimate power?

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

It seems, judging by the comments on this board, and by those signing petitions to secede from the union, that Jindal's advice is not going to be heeded by the Republicans.

Sorry, GOP, you hitched your wagon to them, you are going to have a very, very hard time switching horses midstream.

newwest
Ferron, UT

JoeBlow,
The House has passed a budget. Every year. The Republican Vice Presidential candidate had a lot to do with the budget process, which is one reason he was chosen as a Presidential running mate.
The Democratic-controlled Senate has not acted on the budgets they've been given. As a result, our country has not had a budget for the past two years.
That's the way it is.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Newwest,

Yes, that is the way it is. I know how politics works.

Here is an accurate portrayal of reality.

The house is controlled by the GOP. They initiate a budget. They have put forth very partisan budget. The Ryan Budget had ZERO democrat votes. But, it passes because the GOP controls the house.

Since the Dems control the senate, the budget does not pass. And the GOP house knew it would not pass the senate when they passed it.

Bottom line. We have no budget because the GOP house passed a partisan budget and the DEM controlled senate rejected it.

Do you really feel that the sole blame is on the Senate and the Dems?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Who stopped the pipeline, Congress or Obama?

Who stopped oil production in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado, Congress or Obama?

Who stopped oil drilling in the Gulf, Congress or Obama?

Who imposed regulations on the coal industry, Congress or Obama?

Who guaranteed "loans" to bankrupt "clean engery" companies, Congress or Obama?

Obama cannot legislate, but he can cripple business. He has crippled business. He will continue to cripple business. His "business plan" is to make government supreme in all facits of our lives. Private business is his competitor. His plan is to cripple private business. If you can't see that, you haven't been looking very hard.

VST
Bountiful, UT

Does anybody, on either side of the aisle in Congress, or in this Administration (including the President) remember the recommendations made by a Commission called Bowles-Simpson?

Here is a simple suggestion to the President and ALL members of Congress.

Since you all are talking out of both sides of you mouth by "claiming you are willing to compromise" to get a solution, how about using the Bowles-Simpson recommendations as a starting point of departure. For heavens sake, come up with a plan that gets both spending and the deficit under control and makes Medicare, Social Security, and other "entitlements" sustainable over the long term.

How complicated can that be?

If you still think this is too complicated to implement before the end of this year, and then throw out the current sequester plan, temporarily keep the same tax levels, then make Bowles-Simpson the NEW sequester plan to become effective at the end of 2013 as an incentive for all of you fruit-cakes to DO THE JOB you were originally sent to Washington to do.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

11:56 a.m. Nov. 15, 2012

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Boy,
It's going to be a ver VERY long 4 years for you Mike.

Good Luck with that.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Blue,
When was the last time harry reid let a budget through, or even allowed a vote? Uh, that would be – NEVER! unless you count the vote on BO’s budget that not even a dem voted for.

This is a budget showdown that harry reid and congressional dems along with BO overwhelmingly approved.

Old man
It’s not hard to see who wants to keep the common man dependent and therefore in bondage to the government – hint, it’s not the GOP

LDS lib,
The approval rating you quote is literally unchanged from before the election when the repubs retained control of the house.

Tolstoy,
The tax cuts DID work. Slick willey’s inverted yield curve in 2000 led to the 2001 recession that was heightened by 9/11. Bush had the unemployment rate in the 5% range until the barney-frank induced housing bubble collapsed and brought our economy down with it. if they didn't, why did BO's OWN people tell him not to raise taxes in late 2010 because of the damage it would do to employment and the economy?

Joe blow
Yep, the senate dems

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To the liberals out there, please explain your blind following of Obama. Either he is grossly incompetent or else intentionally set up the fiscal cliff.

Look at what Obama did. In 2010, Obama extended the Bush Tax cuts, and had also set up all sorts of automatic tax increases and spending cuts to take effect all at the same time. So, you have to ask yourself, is Obama so incompetent that he set up the fiscal cliff, or did he intentionally set up the fiscal cliff?

To "Kent C. DeForrest" if more people were working, even if they don't bring in enough to end the deficit, they will impact the budget because they will cut the amount of social welfare spending. Think of it as a free spending cut.

To "JoeBlow" the House has passed a budget last year, while the Democrats in the Senate wouldn't even vote on one.

To "LDS Liberal" During the 1956 Presidential campaign, Norman Thomas, on national television, announced, "The Socialist Party will no longer be running a candidate for president. The Democratic Party is leading this country to Socialism much faster than we could ever hope to."

Mad Hatter
Provo, UT

All that can be said is that the election did not slow the inflammatory rhetoric. The nonsensical whining just keeps coming and coming. Maybe it's time that Democrats get both a majority in the House and a super-majority in the Senate. There can then be a true dialog between liberals and conservatives without the obstructionism of the wingnut fringe controlling the Republican Party.

Salsa Libre
Provo, UT

@Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah

At this moment in time, it looks like the Republican Party is dying of self-inflicted wounds. The message of movement conservatives is dead. The appeal to rich white guys and angry, old, white guys is restricted by demographics and reality. Mitt Romney refuses to go away and continues to blame his failure on the very people who's votes he needed to win the election. And the angry, old, white guys (AOWG) writing in this thread keep saying the same old, tired thing ad naseum.

It will take some time for the AOWG to adjust and move on. There are problems which need a solution. However, it is clear from many AOWG can't find it within themselves to give it up. They have too much on the table to leave their anger behind and adapt to the times.

George
Bronx, NY

@lost
interesting now you are the one claiming it was everyone but bush's fault that the economy tanked. my my my. Its clintons fault it barney's fault its the terrorist fault, its the spaghetti monster in the skies fault." So I will ask you the same question that you always ask. who was president when the recession began, whose tax policies where in place? yu always claim democrats want to blame everyone else but then when its time to man up and admit bush failed you do the same thing.

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

What happened to Obama's gray hair? Is he so vain that he has it colored, or did he have it colored to make him look "wiser" in the debates?

Why wasn't General Petraeus an issue before the election? Are we really to believe that Eric Holder didn't tell Obama anything about Petraeus for five months?

Why did the unemployment rate jump by 100,000 people in the week following the election? Does anyone really think that 100,000 people lost their jobs in one week when unemployment was "supposedly" going down?

Nothing has changed. Obama still can't find the truth, no matter how hard he looks for it. His supporters still tell us that he is telling the truth and that the CIA, the State Department, the FBI and foreign leaders are the ones lying about Benghazi. They're telling us that Obama is kept out of the loop when we're under attack. They're telling us that Obama is shielded from important information by Eric Holder. They're implying that the government is total disarray because nobody in the administration trusts Obama enough to inform him of anything except his "Tee Time".

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"What happened to Obama's gray hair? Is he so vain that he has it colored, or did he have it colored to make him look "wiser" in the debates?"

This sums up a large part of the GOP problem.

People worry about things like this. Or birth certificates. Or Mrs Obamas sleeveless dresses.

Credibility = totally gone. Grow up.

(sometimes I do vote Republican, but am too embarrassed to admit it. This is why)

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Thompson, enjoy your irrelevancy.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

@ Salsa,

Nothing has changed, has it? The Democrats still try to use diversion to keep us from questioning Obama about his involvement in any duty that has been assigned to him. The Democrats still tell us that the Republicans are the root of all our problems, even though the Senate and the White House is controlled by Democrats and the budget is either voted down 100 to 0 or totally ignored when it gets to Harry Reid. The Democrats still attack the messenger. They still call names. They still deny any responsibility for the $6 TRILLION is new deficit spending since Obama took office.

Let's admit it. Democrats find it easier to ask "academics" how to solve our budget problems instead of asking businessmen how they balance a budget. Democrats have never had to wipe off the chalk dust from the classroom. They think that ivory tower solutions actually work. They've removed themselves so far from reality that they actually admire Obama and his policies.

There are no acceptable excuses for Obama's actions. His policies are fully in effect. We're reaping the destruction caused by his ideas and from his lack of leadership.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Red Shirt..apparently you haven't been paying attention. Congress and the White House were instrumental in the fiscal cliff..and it was set up on purpose..it was intentional..it was constructed by design. Done as an incentive..that help?

Ford DeTreese
Provo, UT

Mike,

"Democrats find it easier to ask 'academics' how to solve our budget problems instead of asking businessmen how they balance a budget."

One among many problems with this simplistic statement is that the businessmen want to have their taxes cut, minimize labor costs by shipping jobs off to China or making many jobs unnecessary by increasing productivity, and by funneling as much wealth to the top 1 percent as possible. But they still expect American consumers to purchase all their products, even those produced in China, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Vietnam (to name a convenient few). This is a primary reason we can't balance the federal budget. Basically, Uncle Sam has become the consumer of last resort. We can fix this, but not by using any proposals put forth by either the Republicans or the Democrats. The problem isn't government, as the conservatives claim to believe. The problem is embedded within our current corporate system. We are asking all the wrong questions.

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