Published: Thursday, Nov. 15 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
"Providing incentives for businessmen to hire more workers is the lowest
cost path to increasing revenues",is a lie.
ladies and gentleman the new professional victims formally known as the GOP.
Well, he did win. So why shouldn't he exert his legitimate power?
It seems, judging by the comments on this board, and by those signing petitions
to secede from the union, that Jindal's advice is not going to be heeded by
the Republicans. Sorry, GOP, you hitched your wagon to them, you are
going to have a very, very hard time switching horses midstream.
JoeBlow,The House has passed a budget. Every year. The Republican Vice
Presidential candidate had a lot to do with the budget process, which is one
reason he was chosen as a Presidential running mate.The
Democratic-controlled Senate has not acted on the budgets they've been
given. As a result, our country has not had a budget for the past two years.That's the way it is.
Newwest,Yes, that is the way it is. I know how politics works.Here is an accurate portrayal of reality.The house is
controlled by the GOP. They initiate a budget. They have put forth very
partisan budget. The Ryan Budget had ZERO democrat votes. But, it passes
because the GOP controls the house.Since the Dems control the
senate, the budget does not pass. And the GOP house knew it would not pass the
senate when they passed it.Bottom line. We have no budget because
the GOP house passed a partisan budget and the DEM controlled senate rejected
it.Do you really feel that the sole blame is on the Senate and the
Who stopped the pipeline, Congress or Obama?Who stopped oil
production in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado, Congress or Obama?Who
stopped oil drilling in the Gulf, Congress or Obama?Who imposed
regulations on the coal industry, Congress or Obama?Who guaranteed
"loans" to bankrupt "clean engery" companies, Congress or
Obama?Obama cannot legislate, but he can cripple business. He has
crippled business. He will continue to cripple business. His "business
plan" is to make government supreme in all facits of our lives. Private
business is his competitor. His plan is to cripple private business. If you
can't see that, you haven't been looking very hard.
Does anybody, on either side of the aisle in Congress, or in this Administration
(including the President) remember the recommendations made by a Commission
called Bowles-Simpson?Here is a simple suggestion to the President
and ALL members of Congress.Since you all are talking out of both
sides of you mouth by "claiming you are willing to compromise" to get a
solution, how about using the Bowles-Simpson recommendations as a starting point
of departure. For heavens sake, come up with a plan that gets both spending and
the deficit under control and makes Medicare, Social Security, and other
"entitlements" sustainable over the long term.How
complicated can that be?If you still think this is too complicated
to implement before the end of this year, and then throw out the current
sequester plan, temporarily keep the same tax levels, then make Bowles-Simpson
the NEW sequester plan to become effective at the end of 2013 as an incentive
for all of you fruit-cakes to DO THE JOB you were originally sent to Washington
Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, Utah11:56 a.m. Nov. 15, 2012========= Boy, It's going to be a ver VERY long 4
years for you Mike.Good Luck with that.
Blue,When was the last time harry reid let a budget through, or even
allowed a vote? Uh, that would be – NEVER! unless you count the vote on
BO’s budget that not even a dem voted for.This is a budget
showdown that harry reid and congressional dems along with BO overwhelmingly
approved.Old manIt’s not hard to see who wants to keep
the common man dependent and therefore in bondage to the government –
hint, it’s not the GOPLDS lib,The approval rating you
quote is literally unchanged from before the election when the repubs retained
control of the house.Tolstoy,The tax cuts DID work. Slick
willey’s inverted yield curve in 2000 led to the 2001 recession that was
heightened by 9/11. Bush had the unemployment rate in the 5% range until the
barney-frank induced housing bubble collapsed and brought our economy down with
it. if they didn't, why did BO's OWN people tell him not to raise
taxes in late 2010 because of the damage it would do to employment and the
economy? Joe blowYep, the senate dems
To the liberals out there, please explain your blind following of Obama. Either
he is grossly incompetent or else intentionally set up the fiscal cliff.Look at what Obama did. In 2010, Obama extended the Bush Tax cuts, and
had also set up all sorts of automatic tax increases and spending cuts to take
effect all at the same time. So, you have to ask yourself, is Obama so
incompetent that he set up the fiscal cliff, or did he intentionally set up the
fiscal cliff?To "Kent C. DeForrest" if more people were
working, even if they don't bring in enough to end the deficit, they will
impact the budget because they will cut the amount of social welfare spending.
Think of it as a free spending cut.To "JoeBlow" the House
has passed a budget last year, while the Democrats in the Senate wouldn't
even vote on one.To "LDS Liberal" During the 1956
Presidential campaign, Norman Thomas, on national television, announced,
"The Socialist Party will no longer be running a candidate for president.
The Democratic Party is leading this country to Socialism much faster than we
could ever hope to."
All that can be said is that the election did not slow the inflammatory
rhetoric. The nonsensical whining just keeps coming and coming. Maybe
it's time that Democrats get both a majority in the House and a
super-majority in the Senate. There can then be a true dialog between liberals
and conservatives without the obstructionism of the wingnut fringe controlling
the Republican Party.
@Mike Richards South Jordan, UtahAt this moment in time, it looks
like the Republican Party is dying of self-inflicted wounds. The message of
movement conservatives is dead. The appeal to rich white guys and angry, old,
white guys is restricted by demographics and reality. Mitt Romney refuses to go
away and continues to blame his failure on the very people who's votes he
needed to win the election. And the angry, old, white guys (AOWG) writing in
this thread keep saying the same old, tired thing ad naseum.It will
take some time for the AOWG to adjust and move on. There are problems which
need a solution. However, it is clear from many AOWG can't find it within
themselves to give it up. They have too much on the table to leave their anger
behind and adapt to the times.
@lostinteresting now you are the one claiming it was everyone but
bush's fault that the economy tanked. my my my. Its clintons fault it
barney's fault its the terrorist fault, its the spaghetti monster in the
skies fault." So I will ask you the same question that you always ask. who
was president when the recession began, whose tax policies where in place? yu
always claim democrats want to blame everyone else but then when its time to man
up and admit bush failed you do the same thing.
What happened to Obama's gray hair? Is he so vain that he has it colored,
or did he have it colored to make him look "wiser" in the debates?Why wasn't General Petraeus an issue before the election? Are we
really to believe that Eric Holder didn't tell Obama anything about
Petraeus for five months?Why did the unemployment rate jump by
100,000 people in the week following the election? Does anyone really think that
100,000 people lost their jobs in one week when unemployment was
"supposedly" going down?Nothing has changed. Obama still
can't find the truth, no matter how hard he looks for it. His supporters
still tell us that he is telling the truth and that the CIA, the State
Department, the FBI and foreign leaders are the ones lying about Benghazi.
They're telling us that Obama is kept out of the loop when we're under
attack. They're telling us that Obama is shielded from important
information by Eric Holder. They're implying that the government is total
disarray because nobody in the administration trusts Obama enough to inform him
of anything except his "Tee Time".
"What happened to Obama's gray hair? Is he so vain that he has it
colored, or did he have it colored to make him look "wiser" in the
debates?"This sums up a large part of the GOP problem.People worry about things like this. Or birth certificates. Or Mrs Obamas
sleeveless dresses.Credibility = totally gone. Grow up.(sometimes I do vote Republican, but am too embarrassed to admit it. This is
Thompson, enjoy your irrelevancy.
@ Salsa,Nothing has changed, has it? The Democrats still try to use
diversion to keep us from questioning Obama about his involvement in any duty
that has been assigned to him. The Democrats still tell us that the Republicans
are the root of all our problems, even though the Senate and the White House is
controlled by Democrats and the budget is either voted down 100 to 0 or totally
ignored when it gets to Harry Reid. The Democrats still attack the messenger.
They still call names. They still deny any responsibility for the $6 TRILLION
is new deficit spending since Obama took office.Let's admit it.
Democrats find it easier to ask "academics" how to solve our budget
problems instead of asking businessmen how they balance a budget. Democrats
have never had to wipe off the chalk dust from the classroom. They think that
ivory tower solutions actually work. They've removed themselves so far
from reality that they actually admire Obama and his policies.There
are no acceptable excuses for Obama's actions. His policies are fully in
effect. We're reaping the destruction caused by his ideas and from his
lack of leadership.
Red Shirt..apparently you haven't been paying attention. Congress and the
White House were instrumental in the fiscal cliff..and it was set up on
purpose..it was intentional..it was constructed by design. Done as an
Mike,"Democrats find it easier to ask 'academics' how
to solve our budget problems instead of asking businessmen how they balance a
budget."One among many problems with this simplistic statement
is that the businessmen want to have their taxes cut, minimize labor costs by
shipping jobs off to China or making many jobs unnecessary by increasing
productivity, and by funneling as much wealth to the top 1 percent as possible.
But they still expect American consumers to purchase all their products, even
those produced in China, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, and Vietnam (to name a
convenient few). This is a primary reason we can't balance the federal
budget. Basically, Uncle Sam has become the consumer of last resort. We can fix
this, but not by using any proposals put forth by either the Republicans or the
Democrats. The problem isn't government, as the conservatives claim to
believe. The problem is embedded within our current corporate system. We are
asking all the wrong questions.
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