Published: Tuesday, Nov. 13 2012 12:00 a.m. MST
"Us liberals: We are so dumb. All we want are handouts. We are all lumped
together if we vote for Obama."You said it
killpack,Are you serious? If the president tries in earnest to forge a
compromise but is unable to do so because Congress is completely incompetent,
partisan, and unwilling to yield, then it is all his fault? Congress isn't
a piece of machinery in which the right sequence of buttons and knobs must be
pushed & turned to get a desired result*. They can choose to come to the
table here and make rational decisions. You can't all lump it up to user
error. If Obama is too unyielding and demonstrates poor negotiation skills,
etc., then you will have a decent argument. I've never seen
someone defend Congress's incompetence and low approval ratings like you
just did. Amazing. *Well actually, there is a sequence.
It's called Money.
Counter Intelligence,Thanks for proving my prior accusation that
conservative commenters on this article have sunk to a new intellectual low.
It's like I asked a genie in a bottle for a prime example and -poof- your
comment shows up!
From the above comments, it is obvious the Republicans have recovered from the
2012 election with vigor, resolve and (of course) denial. I so look forward to
the next four years of stonewalling, bizarre accusations from Donald Trump and
predictions of disaster from the "patriotic" Right.
"...The bleak scenario could push the White House and Congress to reach a
deal...".Why does it always take a bleak scenario for elected
representatives to do their job?Why do we keep electing the same
Congressional folks (with some minor rearrangement of the deck chairs) yet
expect different results?
Here's something to think about, what does a trillion dollars really mean?
If I made 1 million dollars a day starting at the birth of Christ, as of today I
would still be $265 billion dollars short. I don't think raising the tax
on all those earning $250,000 would make a dent in the federal deficit. The
only way to reduce the deficit is to reduce spending and lower our expectations
on what the government should do for us.Even if we taxed those who
make over $250k at 100% it wouldn't make a difference other than those who
made of $250K and saw it taxed away would have no incentive the following year
to do anything.
To: There You Go AgainRe: Why do we keep electing the same Congressional
folks (with some minor rearrangement of the deck chairs) yet expect different
results?The American Electorate is horribly uninformed. This comes
mainly from the whitewash from our Liberal Media. Case in point--Benghazi. Had
a Republican been been in office while that happened we would have seen/heard
nothing but railing accusation from 9/11/12 until the last ballot was cast
11/6/12.Another reason is because of apathy. I was amazed to see
individuals admit that they did a couple hours of research on the presidential
candidates before casting their votes. Really? And some I talked to "just
don't do politics". Sad. Sad. Sad.But payday is right
around the corner.... hope you have your food storage.
@EmajorPlease don't give me the "I am a victim of the evil
Conservative" melodrama when it was a direct quote from a leftistI would like to say that blaming others for noticing something silly said by a
left-winger is a "new intellectual low" - but in reality, is its fairly
common place.I am not a conservative as much as I tire of left-wing
passive/aggression - such as what you just did.All you proved is
that the left plays victim even when it is their own stuff that stinks.
Look folks.Raising taxes on the rich is a DENT.Tweaking SS is
a DENT.Reforming medicare and medicaid is a big DENT.Reducing
defense spending is a DENT.So, quit excluding things that only make
a DENT.All the DENTS will add up to some real money.The
term "its only a dent" is code for "dont touch MINE"Dont expect the poor and old to sacrifice if cant DENT the rich a bit.
For every % of taxes increased on anyone, an equal number of entitlement
spending cuts.If any taxes increase, than have a $100 minimum tax on
every person 18 and older. No freeloaders. No more paying NO taxes AND getting a
refund.For every day Congress (House and Senate) fail to have a
budget, they each get penalized $10,000.Before an increase in ANY
government benefit, the debt must be paid off in full.As for
Defense, return spending to Pre-Iraq War levels.
JoeBlow posted:Now that the election is over, I hope the Mr Romney will
reveal his plan to cut taxes, raise defense spending and reduce the deficit.Me: It would be a bit like Einstein trying to explain his mental
process to come up with his advance theory's in mathematics. Mitt was able
to intellectually crunch numbers and come up with a solution. Until he had
became President and could have access to ALL data he felt he needed, he
wasn't going to lie and bribe folks for votes. He simple stated,
trust me, I know I can do it, take it or leave it. We know the answer to that.
Mitt can't prove he can do it now.
I pay 7% tithing.
@There You Go AgainSaint George, UT"...The bleak scenario
could push the White House and Congress to reach a deal...".Why
does it always take a bleak scenario for elected representatives to do their
job?Why do we keep electing the same Congressional folks (with some
minor rearrangement of the deck chairs) yet expect different results?"I concur. Why did we elect the same failed president and expect any
different results. I say "we" elected him because we are all Americans.
"I" voted for the other guy.
Bring on the tax hikes... and wait till you see the Obomacare bill your going to
get on top of that! Happy Daze are coming!!
I would be quite happy to pay more taxes if: 1. The taxes went to deficit
reduction and 2. Someone was minding the store to prevent government waste and
corruption. So far I have no indication that either will happen.
Letting tax cuts expire is NOT a tax increase. Wasn't the
United States in a better financial condition BEFORE the Bush Tax cut and the
Social Security Tax cut of the Obama administration?
Re:WorfI think we are coming from the same place here...Re:EmajorSo...What you are saying is that Pres. Obama is a great
leader if he could only get people to follow?
@Emajor said, "Once I read the title of this article, I knew there would be
some predictable and childish knee-jerk conservative comments."I
think you need to take your rose-colored glasses off. Much of these same
childish and knee-jerk comments are being generated from BOTH sides,
conservatives AND liberals.I personally do not subscribe to this
nonsense. These types of comments are a pure exercise in futility in a vain
attempt to make one feel superior in their wisdom, but yet, solve nothing. I
subscribe to the philosophy, "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty,
and the pig likes it."
All who think the liberal lovers who voted for 4 more years should bear the vast
majority of the burden of the 'cliff'. All in favor type I ... I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I ...Enough Said!!!
Counter Intelligence,Who is being passive-aggressive? I flat out called
your comment intellectually impoverished. That's pretty direct. Playing the
victim? Conservatives have been doing that wonderfully since the election,
skulking about blaming anyone they can for their loss, acting as if the world
has betrayed them and now the country is going to come crashing down around
them. The media, the liberals, half of America, you name it, they are all to
blame. Poor martyrs. One thing is for certain, though: I don't feel
victimized by conservatives. That's giving yourself far too much credit.
Grundle,Go ahead and simplify it any way that makes you feel
comfortable. By your definition the Republican Party isn't a great leader
right now either, are they? Just lost the presidential election to an incumbent
during a poor economy, didn't they? Nice leadership there. VST,You are right. This is futile and I am contributing little by doing
this. It's a selfish motivation, really. A way to vent my irritation and
yet end up more irritated. As before, I will grow tired of it eventually and go
away for awhile.
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