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Published: Sunday, Nov. 11 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Mad Hatter
Provo, UT

Recent comments coming out of the Tea Party groups is that Romney wasn't conservative enough and they need to further exorcise the Republican Party of moderate influences. This is truly the wacky and crazy fringe. They want to remove the Republican leadership including Mitch McConnell and John Boehner for failing them at this time. As for Mitt Romney, they want him to just disappear.

Unfortunately, demographics is not on the side of the Tea Party. They see no reason to re-calibrate and adjust to the changes in the modern world. They believe that if they just fight harder, put up candidates who fully-embrace movement conservative princibles, and double-down on their appeal to angry, old, white men, they will get back their country. It doesn't matter that "their country" never existed, ever.

Now, the reactionary Tea Party elements want to exclude 30% of the electorate because it constitutes that part of America that they fear most. Rather than try to be inclusive which would destroy the very foundation of their being, they pull back into their cave and yell "Keep Out!"

Ideological purity is their mantra. Let it remain the path to their extinction.

David King
Layton, UT

Many who comment here love to take any opportunity to blame the Tea Party for every ill in America, from Romney's loss to the state of the economy. I have never considered myself a member but perhaps a small reality check would be helpful for us non-Tea party types as well. There are 96 Senators and over 350 House members who don't affiliate with the so-called Tea Party caucus. If this group wishes to accomplish something without any help from the Tea Party, they have more than the requisite votes for a super majority. If a four-year old robs a bank with a water gun, do you scold the four year old, or those who gave in so easily? Mitt Romney has no one but himself and his campaign staff to blame for his loss. As the Senate continues without a budget, does it make more sense to blame the four percent of them that identify with the Tea Party, or the ninety-six percent who want us believe any one but them is responsible?

Ogden, UT

Well said, Mr. Cunningham, and exactly right.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Dick Lugar would have coasted to reelection, but lost his primary to a tea party candidate. Thanks to that Indiana, a state almost as Republican as Utah, will have a Democratic senator. Claire McCaskill of Missouri was considered the most vulnerable senator this cycle and would have almost certainly lost had Republicans nominated a decent candidate. But they nominated a tea party candidate instead.

In the last cycle Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, and Tim Buck cost the Republicans 3 easily winnable seats. So instead of the senate being 55-45 Democrat, it would have been 50-50 had Republicans not drank the tea.

As a Democrat. all I can say is thanks tea party, keep up the good work.

American Fork, UT

Until the republican party, with or without the tea portion, realigns itself to become more relevant to the nation, it will continue to become less so.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

My favorite post-election news is that Herman Cain and Rush Limbaugh would like to start a third party, a genuine Tea Party, that could provide a home for folks who think the Republican party is too moderate. I, for one, think this would be a splendid idea.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Instead of following Obama''s example of blaming someone else, why not look at what really happened.

In 2008, the previous presidential election, 29 Democrat governors held office and 21 Republican governors held office. In 2012, 19 Democrats and 30 Republicans are governors. Democrats lost 44% of their governorships.

In 2008, 257 members of the House were Democrats and 173 were Republicans. In 2012, 194 are Democrats and 233 are Republicans. Democrats lost 24.5% of the House seats.

In 2008, 57 members of the Senate were Democrats and 41 members were Republicans. In 2012, 53 are Democrats and 45 are Republicans. Democrats lost 7% of the Senate seats.

In 2008, 365 electors voted Democrat and 173 voted Republican. 69 million people voted for the Democrat running for president and 60 million voted for the Republican. In 2012, 332 electors will vote Democrat and 206 will vote Republican. Democrats will loose 9% of their electors. Democrats lost 11% of their popular vote and Republicans lost 3% of their popular vote.

The nation had a major shift to the right since 2008. Democrats have no "mandate". The tea party is not the issue, Democrat policies are.

Salt Lake City, UT

Conservative David Frum is spot on when he says "The Republicans have been fleeced, exploited, and lied to by the conservative entertainment complex."

The conservative message is hopelessly lost when the mouthpieces of the movement frame the election around a birth certificate, college transcripts, and "is he a Muslim". Romney wisely kept trying to bring the election back to the economy and jobs, but his "supporters" kept dragging the conversation back into the muck. I don't recall Mr Romney ever jumping on the Benghazi bandwagon, because he knew there wasn't a real story there. He knew his answer was economy and jobs.

If conservatives want to win over the middle, they need to change the voices. Beware the TV commentator promoting "a new book on conservatism!" They are taking your dollars and costing you an election.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Meet The Press this morning was especially enlightening. One of the panelists was a Republican advisor (to both GWB and Romney) who clearly acknowledged that the party has moved so far to the right that it is losing all credibility.

I could have voted for Romney if Romney had been Romney and had not tried to become a drone for the Tea Party.

Maybe there is some hope out there.

It remains to be seen.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Oh, and that same Republican -- whose name I don't recall right now -- also blasted what he called the "Conservative entertainment" pundits like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and others for their role in defeating Romney.

Is it too soon to hope that these clowns will disappear now?

Sandy, UT

To Mr Richards, your generous spin to the right really has no basis. Democrats have received over a million more votes than Republicans nationwide and if not for gerrymandering we would have a triple majority in Washington. The reason for that is the Repubs have no policies that the electorate can accept. I for one am happy that moderation is the clear victor in 2012.

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Re: Mike Richards
My Grandfather used to tell me "There is no such thing as a moral victory, it what the scoreboard says as you walk off the field that counts". Scoreboard, Romney 0 Obama 8.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

When you tell reliable Republican voters and elected officials "we don't want your kind around here" you are building a very small tent for your party. Reagan built a big tent. That is what gave him his victories. Math.

Far East USA, SC

Mr Richards,

I notice that you focused you attention on 2008. And yet, the GOP did quite well.

However, their momentum did not carry into 2010, where dems kept the presidency, and picked up seats in both the house and the senate.

Did you forget that?

Far East USA, SC

Old Man,

I too could have voted Romney if he would have been allowed to govern as a businessman.

Instead, he would have been forced to toe the party line rather than go where the data and his experience took him.

Second point.

We have heard repeatedly about Ronald Reagan, how many jobs he created and his tax policies.

Would anyone on the right be willing to accept the lowest tax rates and brackets that were in effect in any of Reagan's years?

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah


I did not forget 2010. That was an off-year election. Obama's "charm" and "rock-star" personality was not part of 2010. Citing 2010 would have little to do with the Presidential elections of 2008 and 2010.

In 2008, Obama offered change. America was interested. As his plan for change unfolded, America turned away from Obama - in droves. Governorships have gone to Republicans. The House was gone to Republicans. Even the Senate has lost membership to Republicans. Americans may not have wanted Romney, but 9,000,000 fewer of them voted for Obama.

He lost all credibility with the Senate when not one Senator voted for his budget, yet he had the gall to blame Republicans for budgetary failures.

Someone needs to get him a mirror. His habit of blaming everyone else and everything else is not going to work this term. He told us that he has a plan. Surely, he's not going to use his failed plans again. He's already proven that those plans will not work.

May he be wise enough to stop believing his own rhetoric and may we be even wiser than he is by not believing his rhetoric.

Centerville, UT

if a liberal says its true it must be. So believes the left sided republicans. The tea party influance got the house in 2010. if you change the party to liberal policies do you really think the liberals that tell us to change will join us? Get some backbone republicans. Popular vote was only a couple of million. the electorial college was as close as 330,000 votes.

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

Conservatives are forced to play the role of the Adult in a Congress full of reckless teenagers. Someone has to say "no."

the truth
Holladay, UT

Blaming the tea party is fallacious and nonsensical argument.

The tea party has nothing to do with what happened.

The problem is the republican party had no identity.

There was no great ideological distinction.

the typically uninformed voter had no idea what republicans stood for, from the debates one hard tell the the difference.

the republican let the democrats and far left define the republicans,

So these weak-minded voters probably bought the leftest lies and rhetoric the dirty democrats told,

also Romney and the republicans just did not fight very hard, they did not fight like they wanted it, unfortunately nice guys do finish last.

Far East USA, SC


I meant to type 2012. figured it didn't need correction. My mistake.

"May he be wise enough to stop believing his own rhetoric and may we be even wiser than he is by not believing his rhetoric."

May you all be smart enough to stop listening to Fox's Rhetoric

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