Not talking global climate change was political recklessness
Re: "Climate science indicates that we need a radical decrease in greenhouse
gas . . . around 90 percent . . . to maintain a semblance of ecological
stability."After 11,000 years of more-or-less steady global
warming, it would the height of climate-"science" chutzpah to suggest
climate "scientists" have now divined some optimal level at which we
must artificially "maintain a semblance of ecological stability" -- even
if it were possible to do so.Which no climate "science" has
ever shown is humanly possible -- regardless of ANY number of $Trillions we
foolishly flush down that socialist rat hole.
@jsf"English scientists are reporting evidence of globaql warming
ended 16 years ago."That's incorrect. After all, 14 of the
14 warmest years in the modern record were the most recent 14 years."The antictica icesheet is growing."As expected. First
I'll note you leave out the Arctic which blasted through the record low
extent and volume records this year. Now why is Antarctica growing? The thing is
Antarctica is much cooler than the Arctic since there's a landmass there
rather than it being an ocean. It's so cold that the south pole has never
been even within 20 degrees of 32F while the north pole almost lost it's
ice. The Antarctic is warming though, so why the icesheet increase? Because
warmer temperatures lead to more moisture evaporation, and that leads to more
rain or in this case frozen precipitation over Antarctica. It was actually
expected that the Antarctic ice sheet would grow under global warming. "Why is it one single event does not reach the level of evidence for gw
advocates but one event like a single hurricane makes all the proof they need
for global warming. "I agree on that though, one event does not
prove global warming.
I deny global warming for one reason -- there hasn't been any in 14 years!
Re one old manI believe geothermal could be put in yellow stone in a
way that is minimally disruptive.
There is absolutely proof that changing the atmosphere with fossil CO²
emissions affects the weather. But denial is a strong emotion and people will
cling to it (and their guns).Obama hasn't dismissed climate
change, he's DOING what he can rather than just talking about it. Obama
focuses on what he can get something done on. The reason wind and
solar are suffering right now is because of record low prices in the natural gas
prices due to fracking. T-bone Pickens will tell you all about it and how much
money he lost because of it. Fracking is slowing us down and ruing water
Amy Ridenour lets look into the Little Ice Age. it was a period of cooling that
occurred after the Medieval Warm Period. While it was not a true ice age, it has
been conventionally defined as a period from about 1350 to about 1850, though
climatologists and historians working with local records no longer expect to
agree on either the start or end dates of this period, which varied according to
local conditions. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment
Report considered the timing and areas affected by the LIA suggested largely
independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally-synchronous
increased glaciation. At most there was modest cooling of the Northern
Hemisphere during the period.Amy please stop mudding the water with
half truths. It is time to stop putting our heads in the sand hopping climate
change will go away. We got ourselves into this mess and together we can get
out of it again.
I love cherry pickers like Amy Ridenour who are selective with the data to prove
their point. The following is the report from the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration report Sept 2012.The average combined
global land and ocean surface temperature for September 2012 tied with 2005 as
the warmest September on record, at 0.67°C above the 20th century average
of 15.0°C Records began in 1880.The globally-averaged land
surface temperature for September 2012 was the third warmest September on
record, at 1.02°C above average. The globally-averaged ocean surface
temperature tied with 1997 as the second warmest September on record, at
0.54°C above average. The average combined global land and
ocean surface temperature for January–September 2012 was the eighth
warmest such period on record, at 0.57°C above the 20th century average.We have not had a below average World wide temperature month for 360
months in a row, which is statistically impossible if there has been no
temperature increase since 1997.Please stop listening to Fox and
research the facts from a wide range of sources.
The events listed have nothing to do with climate change.
1938 a major hurricane struck the east coast, how do you account for that.
English scientists are reporting evidence of globaql warming ended 16 years ago.
The antictica icesheet is growing. The hurricane season has been no worse than
the average season. Why is it one single event does not reach the level of
evidence for gw advocates but one event like a single hurricane makes all the
proof they need for global warming. Do you see the fear mongering among the
gws. Did global warming caise the droughts in the thirties? Religion founded
on bad science just is bad all around. Social engineering based on bad science
is just morally evil.
So, cjb, you would be willing to sacrifice the first national park in the world
and one of the world's most fantastic wonders in the name of cheap
energy?Perhaps that is one more symptom of the kind of thinking that
cost Republicans this election.
Given the extreme denial amongst a large segment of the American populace,
mostly Republicans in my opinion, President Obama had to secure the election
first! Obama knows the reality, Romney could only make snide
remarks about the impending crisis. At least the right side won.
Mars had global warming who is to blame for it happening there? We had those
types of things droughts, hurricanes, floods without electricity and fuel. Are
energy we use feeds the world. Wh bite the hand that feeds you. Like the zero
population growh people a way to control lives and limit prosperity.
I noticed that the Antarctic ice pack is growing. Also that it was 45F on Mars
recently and not a Republican there. Sandy is not completely unusual for the
East Coast. It has happened before and will happen again. It is a stretch to
say global warming caused it. Nonetheless I am strongly in favor of research and
methods to give us pollution free energy. It will take a while. In the
meantime I see no reason to impoverish us until we get it. Up to now wind and
photovoltaic is not commercially viable, but it is improving. Conversion of
organic matter such as giant miscanthus grass into gasoline and algae to make
diesel oil are seemingly enroute to being commercially viable. It is true oyster
seed have a tough time growing as the ocean has a slightly lower pH from
increased CO2 in the atmosphere. It is better to use alternatives, but not yet.
Why not make use of Yellow Stone geothermal to replace coal and oil production