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Published: Saturday, Nov. 10 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Let's look at the numbers. Republicans lost nine House seats, meaning that their number decreased by 3.8% compared to 2010. It also means that they have 35.5% more control than they had in 2008. Obama lost 14% of his following since 2008. There is no reason for Obama or any other Democrat to demand anything. If Obama wants change, he had better lead the way with concessions.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

what part of the election are these people not getting? why do we hire these people? the voters spoke clearly there must be a balanced approach that includes increases in revenue and a reduction in the budget.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . time to compromise . . . ."

No, it's not.

Now that they've won the elections, it's time for action by liberals that actually has a chance of helping the economy recover from 80 years of their deranged politics.

Soaking the rich has NO chance of helping the economy. It's nothing more than liberal revenge directed at a powerless minority they hope to fleece to buy the votes they need to stay in power. A way for liberals to play Santa Claus to the rubes with other people's money.

Deep, deep cuts to deranged government overspending on useless, even harmful social programs is the only policy that has, even the slightest chance of helping the economy.

Of course, liberals have proven time and time again, they have no real intent to help the American economy.

EJM
Herriman, UT

Never thought I would say this but maybe we need to "jump off the cliff". We have become a society that is so self-entitled and has lost understanding what "wants versus needs" means that we need a wake up call. When people who have IPhones want to know if certain activities are covered under fee waivers at our schools then we need a wake up call. When our politicians, the same ones who go home and proclaim that the cause of our nation's problems is always the other guy yet they themselves were the ones casting votes in Congress we need a wake up call. When our country is split down the middle with the popular vote but our President claims he has a mandate, and our Speaker of the House says "no tax increases" then we need a wake up call. So bring on the cliff and hope our parachutes save us.

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

I'm inclined to think the Congress should give Obama anything/everything he wants in regards to taxes and budget.

Let him tax the millionaires all he wants, except if he can't FIND the millionaires because they've left the country, don't be too surprised.

When consumers wind up paying $20.00 for a loaf of bread - will it be the fault of Fox news, or George Bush?

I'm afraid consumers are going to have to actually see the results of government trying to spend its way out of debt before they understand.

Makid
Kearns, UT

What needs to happen is defense spending needs to drop by 50% back to what it was in 2002. Then tax rates need to go back up to what they were in 2002.

Obama had stated in the summer of 2011 that he would agree to cuts in Medicare, Social Security and other "Entitlement Programs" only if Republicans would agree to a 1% tax increase for those making more than $250K a year. Republican leadership were for it until the rank and file found out about the increase and boom, totally against it.

The current Republican plan is revenue neutral. That doesn't help decrease the deficit at all.

If taxes return to the level they were when Clinton left office, military spending returned to a level when Clinton left office and we enact some "Entitlement Cuts" the deficit would shrink each year.

When Clinton left office, the deficit was decreasing. Each year of the Obama presidency, spending has dropped. His first budget had a deficit of 1.8 Trillion. This included the Trillion dollar stimulus. Of which only $200 Billion was spending, the remaining $800 Billion was tax cuts. But remember Republican ads, this failed. Tax cuts failed...

one old man
Ogden, UT

Yes, yes and YES!

But will Boehner and McConnell and the rest of the GOP do it?

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Did you know that there were about 500,000 more Democratic votes in House races than Republican votes? The only reason that the House remains in Republican hands is the gerrymandering that followed the 2010 Republican wave. The House, Senate, and Presidency remain divided, but not because this is the will of the people.

As for taxes, taxes are at the lowest level in at least 50 years. As I recall, the 1950's and 1960's were times of tremendous economic growth that many look back on with wistful nostalgia. At that time, the top income tax rate was 70-90%. I certainly don't advocate returning to that, but it is ridiculous to claim that those who have succeeded to the greatest extent in America don't owe more to their country.

Obama should just let the sequester kick in, and then have a new round of negotiations with the new Congress in January. Perhaps he will be able to deal with a more rational group then. I don't think that the lack of rational thinking (and ability to do arithmetic) that was evidenced by the right's inability to comprehend polls is limited to polling. It extends to economic matters too.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Git 'er done, boys

hubbardesquire
Alabaster, Alabama

If "compromise" is code for give in and let the Democrats destroy this country then, I say, "No way! It is not going to happen! Not now, not ever!"

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I always have to laugh when I hear that rich people will leave the country if we raise their taxes a little bit. There is nowhere else in the developed world in which it's better to be rich than the U.S. Where would they move? They could pay less taxes if they moved to Somalia, or Uganda, or Paraguay, but you really wouldn't want to live there. If they moved anywhere else in the developed world they would pay more in taxes and end up with less money.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

I'm not sure we have enough good people in Congress to achieve anything worthwhile yet. Batten down the hatches.

John Charity Spring
Back Home in Davis County, UT

Procuradorfiscal has made one of the most correct statements ever printed in these comment sections. The left-wing is determined to spend this Country into bankruptcy. Unfortunately, this election proves that the majority of the gullible public has fallen for leftist propaganda.

How can so much of the public be so foolish? Indeed, the call for compromise is nothing more than an acceptance of the idea of welfare statism.

We cannot capitulate to the effort to destroy the America we know. There can be no compromise with foolishness and idiocy.

Wonder
Provo, UT

I don't even know where to start. Mike Richards -- You look at numbers of House seats when you're talking about Rs and then percentage of people voting when you're talking about Ds. That's apples or oranges. You do realize that Republicans also lost a percentage of their "following" too don't you? Fewer people voted. Cherry pick the worst data for Ds and the best for Rs. That's really rational. Procuradorfiscal -- the super rich are a "powerless minority"? Seriously? I guess those 10's (100's?) of millions they just spent on the last election to buy Romney the office didn't really work out very well, but I wouldn't call them powerless really. But beyond that, Obama hasn't ever said that "soaking the rich" (i.e. going back to the historically low rates they paid during the Clinton years) was all he wanted. He's agreed time and again to cuts. He repeated says "balanced" -- meaning spending cuts and tax increases for the top 2%. Reading these comments will show you how likely it is that Rs will compromise. They think that defending the "powerless" rich from a minor tax increase is a moral issue.

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

What is going on? A half-percent margin constitutes a "mandate".

Ask a businessman what it would take for him to hire more people. Ask him how many people he would hire if government took another 5% of his profits. Ask him how many people he would hire if the government continued to impose regulations on him that made it impossible for him to compete in the world market. Ask him how he can compete for technology dollars when paying 35% of 38% for capital gains when other INDUSTRIAL nations only charge 20% or less.

It's time to think. It's time to analyze why we have a problem. Taking money out of circulation to satisfy Obama spending "habit" will only increase the problem.

Obama's ideas about the budget were voted down 100% by a Democrat controlled Senate. Why does everyone think that the Republicans need to change when even the Democrats would not give Obama's plan even a single vote?

The problem is with Obama, who lost public support big time. His election should be seen for what it was - a complete repudiation of his policies. As Mike said, he lost 14% of his followers.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

I always have to laugh when I hear that rich people will leave the country if we raise their taxes a little bit.

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The taxes on corporations have already been raised and is highest in the world,
and the corporations have left the country in the most damaging way possible to the country - with American jobs.

As a matter of utmost urgency the corporate tax needs to be severely reduced or eliminated.

Of course corporate heads may operate remotely while living in the USA; they may enjoy doing that but corporate taxes make us domestically unprofitable and American jobs held by the working people of America have been lost by the millions, or we become too much of a nation of customer service representatives and burger flippers.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Compromise with those whose actions are destroying everything our country depends on? Never!

When an arsonist is pouring gasoline on your house with a torch in his other hand, you do not "compromise" and ask that he only pour 5 gallons of gas instead of 10 gallons. You do everything in your power to see that no gas gets poured and the the torch is extinguished immediately.

Out of control spending is what is killing our country and economy, and it must be stopped. Until the spending is stopped, no amount of taxation will ever keep us from going bankrupt, and leaving our children enslaved to China to pay off Santa's borrowing to pay for all the "free stuff" politicians have given away.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

Of course it is time for Republicans to compromise. Obama has the upper hand now, and not because of an election mandate. Just a few months ago, President Obama wanted $800 billion in additional revenue. In January, he gets 5 trillion in additional revenue. That deal is already done. Congress has already agreed to it by kicking the Bush Tax Cuts can down the road and agreeing to steep automatic spending cuts.

President Obama doesn't want 5 trillion in additional revenue. Everyone agrees the tax hike and spending cuts are too much. He has offered compromise. Boehner is smart enough to make a deal, but will struggle to keep his party's radicals in check.

one old man
Ogden, UT

If "compromise" is code for give in and let the Republicans destroy this country then, I say, "No way! It is not going to happen! Not now, not ever!"

Hank Pym
SLC, UT

@ procuradorfiscal

"...it's time for action by liberals that actually has a chance of helping the economy recover from 80 years of their deranged politics."

Or, you could say... its only taken conservatives since 1980 to jack things up.

re: John Charity Spring

"There can be no compromise with foolishness and idiocy."

So, we should ignore Boehner & McConnell? Works for me.

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