Comments about ‘Jonathan Tobin: Chris Christie shouldn’t be the Romney campaign's scapegoat’

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Published: Friday, Nov. 9 2012 11:56 a.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

Well, for heck's sakes, you don't expect any of them to accept personal responsibility do you?

That's only for people they don't like.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Christie was not the problem. It was a candidate and his party that tried to sell something unpalatable to a changing demographic. Women weren't buying their abortion and anti women's heath planks, Latino's were not buying their views on immigration reform, black's heard all of the racist dog whistles and strident disrespect for a black president, and the middle class was not fooled by an economic plan would be good for anyone but the extremely wealthy. Finally, they just could not trust a man who seemed to be on every side of every position, mendacious in the extreme, and who was afraid to release his tax returns for years prior to his formal candidacy for the presidency.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Shhhh, Mike. Your neighbors will upset. Truth seems to do strange things to the emotional health of conservatives.

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

I agree with the gist of this article. I think that Chris Christie has killed his chance at any national party affiliation. I don't think any party will trust him to be the good soldier any party wants.

Too bad...I found his bluntness and honesty refreshing.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Well, one thing about me, "One old Man", is that I have a very big mouth, especially when I am right. "Tell truth to power" is my motto.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Who says you're right, Mike?

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Well, most recently, the majority of the American voters for president. But ain't that kind of obvious "one old man"?

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

one old man/Mike in Cedar City

"Majority" and "right" are not synonyms

(When Bush was elected did you agree that Republicans were right?)

Many of us question the fashionable intolerance of political correctness precisely because speaking "truth to power" means questioning hate performed in the name of popular social movements just as much as questioning hate performed in the name of god, motherhood and patriotism (perhaps even more so)

I still question Obama because his election does not mean he is right - merely that he won

sly_spy
Oceanside, CA

It was a combination of Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie’s love affair with Obama that cost Romney the election. He thanked Obama for doing his job like a love-struck teenage girl. Yet he would not even meet with Romney? Now its coming out that he was phoning Obama and Bruce Springsteen on Air Force one. He even called Obama to congratulate him on his victory, yet only e-mailed Romney. This is Romney’s Keynote Speaker! His counterpart on the Democratic side was Bill Clinton. Did you see Bill Clinton acting that way toward Romney at the end of the election? Of course not. At the most critical time Chrisite dignified Obama and diminished Romney during a huge national crisis with all kinds of press. It is political high treason. There are hundreds of ways he could have handled this crisis with the president. He picked the worst possible way for our presidential hopes of getting a conservative in office. I'm a conservative but I could not vote for him on a national stage.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

Christie didn't do anything wrong but trying to attend to the needs of his people while working with the president. He gave a compliment and hug showing emotional support in a time of need. Nothing more needs to be said. He wasn't a Judas to his party. As far as the Romney loss, I think Romney did well on some fronts. The results were surprising and showed that the Republican Party as now constituted is flawed. Simple demographics. It wasn't just Romney that had a tough night, I would say the Republican Party did worse than Romney as many tea-party candidates got waxed in many states and Mia Love couldn't win a gift-wrapped gerrymandered district. It shows that the reasons for defeat were a bit deeper than even Romney's weaknesses in ideology and strategy, and Christie really is a small, small part of any defeat here.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

I find it odd that republicans are blaming the Romney loss on the hurricane and surrounding efforts to help people.

You do realize you are saying that a legally defined "ACT OF GOD" put Obama back in office right?

I believe it was an act of god too.

Phranc
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@sly spy
it was hurricane Romney and the GOP's love for their chicken little/conspiracy theory approach to campaigning that lost him the election.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

WHAM! -Mitt got WHAMMED!

W-White women
H-Hispanics
A-African Americans
M- Millennials (young people)

WHAT NOW?
Saint George, UT

Chris Christie 2016

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Please, Republicans, by all means, go right ahead and believe that the your losses were the result of Hurricane Sandy and Governor Christie's cooperating with the federal government to ease his state's suffering.

No adjustment to your platform, party leadership or relationship to voters is needed.

Please, hold fast to the belief that if there had been no Sandy that your party's positions and behaviors would have been just fine with the majority of voters.

You made certainty without evidence more important to you than evidence without certainty. Be sure to keep doing that.

Do more to try to suppress the vote, tilt the economy in favor of the already wealthy, and keep on working to strip women of the right to control their own bodies. The public was clearly ok with that during this election.

Never forget that the changing demographics of our nation, and the public's ability to fact-check for themselves using Google and Yahoo, are only temporary aberrations - they'll all go away with time.

And above all, be sure to always get your news only from conservative cable channels and blogs.

Stay the course, Republicans.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Howard B. is correct. A catastrophe happens, and what are you going to do as governor? Go to Romney in hopes of getting a can or two of baked beans, or talk to the man who is in a position to offer REAL help? Christie was correct in putting his people first. Blue is also right. Pointing fingers in a kind of circular firing squad only helps people see the GOP as the really are - aging white autocrats.

Wonder
Provo, UT

@Screwdriver -- I think you're right. Clearly God wanted Obama to win!

Gregory Hill
Richboro, PA

Governor Christie did hurt the central message of Romney's late attack ads, which was "I can reach across the aisle, and President Obama cannot." The pictures of the President and Governor Christie surveying the damage caused by Hurricane Sandy, and Christie's honest praise for the President's competent and compassionate response to the hurricane, left may of my fellow Pennsylvanians, and our NJ neighbors, even more convinced that the failure to compromise is more the result of Republican obstinacy than because of the President's.

Mad Hatter
Provo, UT

It is doubtful that the election was still up for grabs when Hurricane Sandy struck the East Coast. It may be surmised that 100% of the Romney voters had made up their mind after the first debate. All the money spent demonizing the president,, all of the propaganda generated by the Right, had probably earned Romney 80-90% of his votes BEFORE he was even nominated.

95% of current Republicans would never vote Democratic. They had purged any Republican who showed any semblance of moderation. As far as the Republican base was concerned, Barack Obama was toast right after his election in 2008. They hated the president because he was president or, as they often argued, he wasn't THEIR president. Republicans couldn't understand why their message wasn't getting through so they repeated it, and repeated it, over and over and convinced themselves that they were going to win in 2012 and take THEIR nation back.

In an election that they were supposed to win, the Republican machine determined that they could say everything and anything in this election because the Republican base believed everything and anything it was told. They expected independents to believe the same extremist partisan blather.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

I wonder who is going to pay off our bills. Last count was about $200 trillion plus. Christie is in rehab. Can he come out of it? Depends on what he does in New Jersey.

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