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Published: Friday, Nov. 9 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Yes, Romney showed early on that he could and would take whatever position he thought would help him win.

The GOP primaries force candidates to take politically untenable positions in order to get the nomination. One must go too far right and appeal to the wing of the party.

One must
- be "severely conservative"
- reject 10 to 1 spending cuts to revenue
- sign the grover pledge

And if they do manage to get the nomination, they have a hard hard road to return to the sane middle ground which is where the majority of the country is.

I do hope that the GOP realizes that the T party positions are not a winning strategy.
I want a viable GOP to keep the Dems in check. This country runs best when we have 2 reasonable parties that can work together to find a sensible middle ground.

I fear that the "we lost cause we were not far enough right" crowd will win out.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

From the Deseret news...

Mitt Romney steers clear of Ohio health, union issues By Dan Sewell AP Published by DSNews 10 25 11

Then...

Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law By Philip Elliott AP Published by DSNews 10 26 11

FAIRFAX, Va. — A DAY after he refused to endorse an Ohio ballot measure that limits public employee union rights, Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said Wednesday that he is "110 percent" behind the effort.

Hmmm...

Zero to One Hundred and ten percent....in just 24 hours.

Mitt Romney did, indeed say anything to win.

And he lost.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

The Tea Party cost the GOP this election, and it will cost them future elections until Republicans wake up to that fact.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

His behavior was evident, at least to those of us who don't cotton to the White Horse prophecy.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I've asked this question before, and never really gotten an answer, so here it is again. Name an issue, any issue, on which Mr. Romney has stayed consistent over the years? I honestly can't think off one.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

Garbage: Obama merely proved that race/gender/class warfare is effective
which is a sad comment on American culture

Timothy
Benton City, WA

I must concur with the opinion that many,many,church members thought that Mr.Romney was the prophetic figure who would save the constitution and restore the country..They were not saying it out loud but I think a reasonable person would conclude that if Mitt had won there would have been a blaring trumpet,broadcasting the good news,coming from Utah...It just goes to show you that prophecy depends on the quality of the seer..Actually I think it is a good thing that Mitt lost because the negative backlash against the church would have been tremendous with truths being lain bare that the church has tried to conceal for years..After all,it would not have been just folks just trying to stir the pot but the entire media system..When one is peculiar they stick out..At any rate,getting back to the main question,I do not think even Romney knew what he believed;other than he thought he was destined to be President and would do anything,no matter how nefarious,to obtain that end..

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Listen folks, it's not that complicated. The nation just doesn't like flip floppers. Mitt Romney is the John Kerry of the GOP.

Bush, for as incompetent as he was, didn't flip flop nearly as much as Mitt. As Bush campaigned on, "You know me. You might not always agree w/my views, but you know me!"

HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

Funny to see how all the leftists find a proven known liar, like Obama, to be a more holy and sacred choice then a known panderer and say anything to get elected Romney. Just be honest...or is that why you supported the guy in the first place - lack of honesty? All politicians do some of these things! They both seem to be equal in that department, so it still comes down to ideas, and where you fall on the left vs right scale. An unthinking, gullible and uncommitted electorate (moderates) become a factor also. I don't care if the GOP loses the next 10 elections, as long as they don't become more like Democrats. What would be the point? Maintain their separation! There are all kinds of cycles that influence these things, and you never know when that will change again.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Robert Anderson
Montgomery Village, Md.
As a non-Utah, non-Republican LDS Church member,

Why this behavior was not evident to those in Utah and elsewhere who slavishly supported him is beyond me.

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Careful there Bro. Anderson,
Being a Non-Utah, Non-Republican LDS member is not imaginable or even possible in the minds of Utah Mormons [it’s called living in the bubble].

They blindly vote for the “R”,
Even more blindly when they claim to be good Mormons.

Lying, deceits, and ½ truths from former Stake Presidents show a lack of integrity and honesty – something my Prophet said we need to stand on, “beyond reproach” is how Pres. Hinckley put it.

Mitt Romney failed that litmus on every level.

Honesty is the best policy.

BTW - It would have helped him to follow his own Father's example - and provided the last 10 years of Income taxes.
But again - that honestly thing keeps coming up...

born in37
ST GEORGE, UT

LDS Liberal. How's that working out for you? The nation is moving your way in a wave. Your President has punched through his agenda of same sex marriage, abortions at will funded by all of the taxpayers. Anything goes for everybody whether they are capable of working or not. How does that compare with the LDS Welfare system? How does providing for your own and relying on your family for financial support before feeding at the public trough? Wake up and smell the Postum Brother, the moral decline of this nation is now on steroids led by the biggest Rock Star of all times. Pity us. I fear for us. Check the history books, including the scriptures. Nations have fallen in big numbers by following their Obamas. We had a chance but ignored it for the easy life of "free stuff". Pity us.

Emajor
Ogden, UT

Counter Intelligence and HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa can stick their heads in the sand all they want about this, but the GOP has a real problem here. Their insistence on extreme ideological purity causes moderate & reasonable candidates like Romney to run far right in order just to survive the primaries. He then had to backtrack on a lot of issues to keep from getting slaughtered in the general election. The result was a flip-flopping candidate who never seemed genuine in anything he said or stood for, because he had changed it so many times. The only time I could be sure where he stood was his baseless 47% comment, playing class warfare with a bunch of rich donors when he didn't know the camera was rolling. THAT was the real Mitt Romney.

Governor Romney was a reasonable conservative I could probably live with. Presidential Candidate Romney was a whole different animal who badly lost the state he used to govern.

And it wasn't just Romney. A number of extreme right Congressmen lost elections. Even Mia Love couldn't win in a gerrymandered district in an ultra-conservative state.

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

People often lump honesty and integrity together, assuming they are the same thing. Not so. Integrity is being consistent with your convictions, whatever those might be. Hitler, therefore, had integrity. He just had wrong-headed convictions. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney did not have integrity. I'll refrain from commenting on his convictions, except to say that he didn't stick to them. His chameleon act on the issues was astonishing. But honesty wasn't all that appealing to Mitt either. And it wasn't just the whoppers he told from time to time. Even more insidious were all the instances of what one of my MBA professors called "strategic misrepresentation." This form of dishonesty went back at least to the Bain years.

Unlike Mr. Anderson, I am a politically unaffiliated Utah Mormon. I wasn't fooled for an instant by Romney and am just glad it's over, so that the rest of the country can now forget his example of what Mormonism is all about.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

born in37
ST GEORGE, UT
LDS Liberal. How's that working out for you? The nation is moving your way in a wave.

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Born in '37
I assume you are one of those lazy 47% Romney spoke so highly of -- the do nothing on SOCIAL Security,
that evil Socialist Program, created by evil Liberals for the Elderly....

The LDS Church supported LGBT rights,
the GOP does not.

The LDS Church supported immigration reform,
the GOP does not.

The LDS Church supports abortion for rape, incest, life/health of the woman,
the GOP does not.

The LDS Church supports various forms of Social Justice,
the GOP does not.

The LDS Church is worldwide organization accepting and including all people of all walks of life,
the GOP does not.

I love my country, have served my country, and will support and defend my country,
I am a pro-life - Anti-Death penalty, Anti-War, Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick, tend o the Elderly, bleeding heart liberal,
the GOP is not.

Time for some Postum, brother.

Timothy
Benton City, WA

Brigham Young was absolutely correct when he said that the people were not ready for the United Order,that they were unworthy to obtain this blessing..I think a lot of people are going to get a very rude awakening when they discover that God is apolitical, could care less about BYU sports,and most likely,if you consider Jesus bloodline from Judaism and his own words to the effect that"if you have seen me you have seen my father",is not a wealthy caucasian male...As for the LDS welfare system,there is abuse there as well..I am sure we all know some in our wards who seem to think as long as they come to church and say the right things that the church,or by extension,church members will sustain them in at least a minimalist fashion..Lastly, I can just not understand how some of these posters can obtain a Temple Recommend as their connection to the Spirit is nominal at best and nonexistent at worse...

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Robert,
I doubt our enthusiasm for Romney was that much higher than it would have been for Santorum or Gingrich or anyone else on the GOP ticket. A little perhaps, but not a significant amount. The enthusiasm for the OGP is more a reflection of the rejection of the great evil that currently infests the WH than support for the other side.

But as to changing positions – why is it flip-flopping when a repub does it, but not when a dem does it? BO changed numerous positions without one peep about him flip-flopping.

Roland,
You can’t think “off” one? Really?

Maverick,
BO NEVER changed positions? (GITMO, gay marriage, no lobbyists, single-pay health system, open administration, etc ad infinitum) I see no condemnation of his changing positions from you. Why the double standard? Oh, that’s right, the left HAS no standards to which they can be held.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

LDS Lib,
You appear really deluded, and excessively ANGRY despite your victory.

“Lying, deceits, and ½ truths from former Stake Presidents show a lack of integrity and honesty” harry reid, right?

Tell me where the LDS church supports gay marriage, as you infer.

Tell me where the church supported open borders or the dem approach (if it differs from open borders) over any other immigration reform approach put forth.

You lie when you say the GOP does not support abortion for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. But you gladly accept taxpayer funded abortion on demand merely to allow for those few acceptions.

The GOP SPONSORED medicare in congress in the 1960s. You LIE when you say the GOP does not support social justice. What is just about taking from the producers to give to the slothful?

The LDS church accepts people of all walks to bring them to Christ and help them be self-sufficient; the dems accept them to become a dependent voting block. The church accepts them so they can change and improve, the dems care not about their improvement.

You cannot be a pro-life liberal, positions are mutually exclusive.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

All I can say about this letter is Amen and Amen.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@Emajor

It is amusing that you claim I stick my head in the sand when Obama clearly did NOT run on his record - but on fear and loathing.

For example: Obama forces Catholics to pay for abortion inducing drugs - then he claims a completely contrived "war on women" in order to divert attention from his own war on "choice" (because Catholics apparently do not deserve the right to NOT choose to pay for morning after pills) and then he labels anyone who notices the HATE as being extreme.

I can clearly see when a person is a perpetrator AND compounds it by blaming the victim. That is not a GOP problem: it is a civilization problem

HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

Why can't you leftists be honest? Even if we stretched the truth, and declared that Romney told just one more lie then Obama, that still makes Obama a big liar! Complete fact....Obama is a big liar, maybe just like Romney? Why cant you be honest and admit that, because none of you have? I've said it many times, I will say it again, Romney isn't conservative, and he would not have even been in my top 10 list of candidates running, but compared to Obama, he is MILES ahead as a superior candidate. Those were our choices. Given the honesty issue is equal, (which it's not), just be truthful about the rest of it. Don't act like you wanted to vote GOP, you didn't. Admit it, you love liberal values - Soak the rich taxes, bleeding heart welfare, abortion on demand and the proliferation of gayness. Don't deny it!

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