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BYU football: Joe Sampson, Zac Stout suspended for violating team rules, leave school

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  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Nov. 13, 2012 9:14 a.m.

    Chris b is just as conservative as any BYU fan, look at his other non- BYU related posts. Not sure why he tries to portray himself as otherwise.

  • Brenden Aiken, SC
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:59 a.m.

    As I understand the report, the young men were suspended from the team for the rest of the season, not kicked off the team or out of school. The choice to withdraw from school was theirs. Can't say anything about that without knowing what their reasons and circumstances were, except good luck. I hope the next phase of their careers is the better for the adversity they will overcome, whether it be back at BYU (a possibility for Stout) or wherever they land. I appreciate the contributions they made to the team, I wish they were still a part of it!

  • tlaulu Taylorsville, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2012 4:15 p.m.

    Solomon Levi:

    Rockarolla is right when he said these two young men violated honor code rules. Just so you'll know the Honor Code states: Obey the law, Respect others. Under Conduct: disorderly or disruptive conduct. Altercation is getting involved in disorderly or disruptive conduct.

  • Zoniezoobie Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 10, 2012 9:41 a.m.

    Here's the complete press release from the police:

    "On November 1st at approximately 3:00 am the Provo Police Department received a report of an alleged assault at the Rancharito restaurant located at 1314 North State Street in Provo. Patrol officers responded to the scene however many of the involved parties had left the restaurant prior to police arrival.

    "There are several parties involved on both sides of the altercation and witnesses. The Provo Police Department is currently attempting to identify and interview everyone involved in the incident in order to put together a complete investigation and determine the appropriate course of action. There are allegations that some members of the Brigham Young University Football Team are involved in the incident.

    "At this time there are no formal charges and as such we are unable to release any further information. Once the investigation is concluded the investigating officer will review the case with the Provo City Attorney’s Office to determine what, if any, charges will be filed."

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 9, 2012 5:56 p.m.

    Chris B - you give us Utah fans a bad name. Quit trolling on BYU stories.

    This is the kind of story that you hate to hear from ANY program. Hopefully these two young men will learn from this experience and will adjust their behavior accordingly. Hopefully their actions were not seriously detrimental to the other parties involved.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Nov. 9, 2012 4:31 p.m.

    I'm sure the administration was left with no choice based on what's slowly leaking out.
    Good luck to the young men.
    I sincerely hope they finish their education.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:53 p.m.

    Losing to SJSU is a legitimate concern at this point.

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:32 p.m.

    eastcoastcoug

    Chris B says he's a non-practicing Catholic, but many of his views posted on none BYU-related topics suggest his views are quite conservative.

    Regardless, when it comes to spamming BYU articles with inane comments, he's proven to be an embarrassment even to many of his fellow Utah fans.

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    As is slowly leaking out, Sampson and Stout were suspended because of an "altercation" at a 24-hour Mexican restaurant around 3 a.m. on Halloween night - a sad and stupid way to end a college football career. It must have been a pretty serious fight to have generated a call to the police and the filing of a police report - which I'm sure we'll be seeing details from soon.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:28 p.m.

    Almost every school has athletes that are suspended for violations and BYU history over the past few years is that they are in the same boat. I'd rather give credit to the schools that suspend than those who do not or who wait until the season is over.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    Ending up on a police blotter may be normal for some people.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:05 p.m.

    Ms. B,

    Go peddle "Normal" somewhere else. You live in Utah and are a conservative Republican. Neither of those things is considered "normal" in the rest of the country or world. I just love the irony of Ute fans that are a shade less conservative than the BYU people they belittle but still ultra conservative by everyone else's standards.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Nov. 9, 2012 10:44 a.m.

    Were they fighting each other? If so, who won? The linebacker, I presume. Also, what is "normal"? Anyway, good luck to both. Hope they can overcome this "setback".

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 10:41 a.m.

    Yes, Chris, I hope future athletes will look at BYU and decide how they want to live their lives. "Normal" (anything goes) is your value system and the bar is set pretty low.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2012 10:38 a.m.

    Chris B

    Nice try, but as usual, your BYU-hating perspective on the world isn't even close to reality.

    The "uniqueness of BYU's Honor Code" isn't even remotely connected to the real circumstances involving Sampson and Stout.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Nov. 9, 2012 10:01 a.m.

    @ Solomon Levi "Unless you know for a fact that this was an Honor Code violation, let's not make assumptions." Come on. At BYU, I'm not aware of too many players who get "kicked off" a team and un-enroll for breaking "team rules" that is not an honor code violation. I agree with many of the other comments- good for BYU to enforce what is very unique to this school. KUDOS to enforcing it. I agree with Y Grad/Y Dad- Best of luck to these two young men in the future endeavors/efforts.

    Re: Stout, that ol' Iggy's Press Conf. isn't looking too good right now. Hang in there, Apo! You're the last man standing! Please stay. We promise to get you more involved in the offensive scheme .... next season!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    Whether its technically honor code or not enforcing their suspension, it likely will be the "uniqueness" of byu driving the punishment.

    I've said it before and I"ll say it again.

    Future "athletes" will look at Sampson, Unga, Davies, and Chambers just in recent years to realize that the likelikhood of them surviving 4 years at byu is slim to none.

    I congratulate Zac Stout on his upcoming decision to transfer elsewhere where he can be a normal college kid and have a normal college experience. There is nothing wrong with that.

  • YGradFan CENTERVILLE, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    KSL News reported this morning that they were apparently involved in a fight at a restaurant some days back. They didn't have a lot of details, but this is apparently the reason for their suspension.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 8:11 a.m.

    The details will probably be coming out soon, but reliable sources are reporting that Sampson and Stout were not suspended for the type of Honor Code violation that some people are probably suspecting. In other words, it's the type of violation of team rules that could get an athlete suspended from many other schools.

    That said, Joe's college football career is obviously finished; Zac may still have an opportunity to rejoin the team, but I hope that both will be able to overcome this set back and be able to return to BYU to finish their degrees.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 7:07 a.m.

    There is always a way back to the important things in life and it may not include football.
    Best wishes to these two young men as they learn a valuable lesson about obedience. Which of us have not stumbled in some way. We learn the law of obedience by the things we suffer.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Nov. 9, 2012 5:13 a.m.

    Elmer Fudd

    We feel bad for them because we feel bad for anyone who makes a bad mistake. We don't feel bad for them because of the consequences. Hopefully the consequences can be the beginning of learning, growing and healing. It's called compassion.

    Sometimes we get a little carried away worrying about wins and losses, and we forget that we are talking about individuals that are sons (and daughters) of a Heavenly Father who grieves for his children when they make mistakes. Doesn't much matter at that point whose uniform they chose to wear.

    More than athletic success, we just want things to work out right for these athletes.

  • hoost Walnut Creek, CA
    Nov. 9, 2012 1:16 a.m.

    Elmer,
    It's okay to feel bad for people who squander their opportunities, even if it's their own fault, and especially if they are young.

  • canadiancougar624 Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 11:38 p.m.

    I heard tonight on KSL that it was not an honor code violation. A fight broke out at a restaurant and they ended up getting involved. Too bad for Sampson to end up like that with 3 games left of his career, hopefully Stout can find a way back on the team.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 11:12 p.m.

    "Lieutenant Matt Siufanua of the Provo Police Department confirmed Thursday night that there were BYU players involved in an altercation and that they were in the process of making contact with the witnesses and all parties involved."

    Whoops!

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 8, 2012 10:06 p.m.

    @ shorts

    "I feel really bad for these young men. I hope Zac and work it out and return. I hope Joe can work it out and finish he degree. What ever happens the very best wishes".

    Why do you feel bad for them? They knew what they were doing when they broke the rules. They made a HUGE mistake and are being held accountable!

    If this is an Honor Code violation, then I say good for BYU on enforcing it.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 9:36 p.m.

    Shocked. No way. Goll.

  • ImaCaMan Oceanside, CA
    Nov. 8, 2012 9:16 p.m.

    Re Solomom Levi

    Yeah right.

  • shorts Payson, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 8:09 p.m.

    I feel really bad for these young men. I hope Zac and work it out and return. I hope Joe can work it out and finish he degree. What ever happens the very best wishes.

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 7:35 p.m.

    Rockarolla

    Unless you know for a fact that this was an Honor Code violation, let's not make assumptions.

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    Vladhagen

    Unlike some coaches, Bronco doesn't dispense discipline based on what fits in best with BYU's schedule.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 7:30 p.m.

    And that's how it rolls. Personal accountability.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 7:27 p.m.

    These kids just don't get it. If you don't want to live the honor code, don't play for BYU. It's pretty simple guys. Live up to the commitment you signed up for, or don't be shocked when you dismissed from the team!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Nov. 8, 2012 6:57 p.m.

    This is a sad way for Sampson and Stout to end their football careers at BYU.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Nov. 8, 2012 6:54 p.m.

    Wow.

    Joe, best of luck with your future.

    Zac, you can grow from this.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 6:44 p.m.

    I guess it is a good thing that we are to the soft part of the schedule.