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Published: Thursday, Nov. 8 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Salt Lake City, UT

I guess it is a good thing that we are to the soft part of the schedule.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA


Joe, best of luck with your future.

Zac, you can grow from this.

Baltimore, MD

This is a sad way for Sampson and Stout to end their football careers at BYU.

West Jordan, UT

These kids just don't get it. If you don't want to live the honor code, don't play for BYU. It's pretty simple guys. Live up to the commitment you signed up for, or don't be shocked when you dismissed from the team!

Springville, UT

And that's how it rolls. Personal accountability.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT


Unless you know for a fact that this was an Honor Code violation, let's not make assumptions.



Unlike some coaches, Bronco doesn't dispense discipline based on what fits in best with BYU's schedule.

Payson, UT

I feel really bad for these young men. I hope Zac and work it out and return. I hope Joe can work it out and finish he degree. What ever happens the very best wishes.

Oceanside, CA

Re Solomom Levi

Yeah right.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Shocked. No way. Goll.

Elmer Fudd
Sandy, Utah

@ shorts

"I feel really bad for these young men. I hope Zac and work it out and return. I hope Joe can work it out and finish he degree. What ever happens the very best wishes".

Why do you feel bad for them? They knew what they were doing when they broke the rules. They made a HUGE mistake and are being held accountable!

If this is an Honor Code violation, then I say good for BYU on enforcing it.


"Lieutenant Matt Siufanua of the Provo Police Department confirmed Thursday night that there were BYU players involved in an altercation and that they were in the process of making contact with the witnesses and all parties involved."


Pleasant Grove, UT

I heard tonight on KSL that it was not an honor code violation. A fight broke out at a restaurant and they ended up getting involved. Too bad for Sampson to end up like that with 3 games left of his career, hopefully Stout can find a way back on the team.

Walnut Creek, CA

It's okay to feel bad for people who squander their opportunities, even if it's their own fault, and especially if they are young.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Elmer Fudd

We feel bad for them because we feel bad for anyone who makes a bad mistake. We don't feel bad for them because of the consequences. Hopefully the consequences can be the beginning of learning, growing and healing. It's called compassion.

Sometimes we get a little carried away worrying about wins and losses, and we forget that we are talking about individuals that are sons (and daughters) of a Heavenly Father who grieves for his children when they make mistakes. Doesn't much matter at that point whose uniform they chose to wear.

More than athletic success, we just want things to work out right for these athletes.

Ivins, UT

There is always a way back to the important things in life and it may not include football.
Best wishes to these two young men as they learn a valuable lesson about obedience. Which of us have not stumbled in some way. We learn the law of obedience by the things we suffer.

Orem, UT

The details will probably be coming out soon, but reliable sources are reporting that Sampson and Stout were not suspended for the type of Honor Code violation that some people are probably suspecting. In other words, it's the type of violation of team rules that could get an athlete suspended from many other schools.

That said, Joe's college football career is obviously finished; Zac may still have an opportunity to rejoin the team, but I hope that both will be able to overcome this set back and be able to return to BYU to finish their degrees.


KSL News reported this morning that they were apparently involved in a fight at a restaurant some days back. They didn't have a lot of details, but this is apparently the reason for their suspension.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Whether its technically honor code or not enforcing their suspension, it likely will be the "uniqueness" of byu driving the punishment.

I've said it before and I"ll say it again.

Future "athletes" will look at Sampson, Unga, Davies, and Chambers just in recent years to realize that the likelikhood of them surviving 4 years at byu is slim to none.

I congratulate Zac Stout on his upcoming decision to transfer elsewhere where he can be a normal college kid and have a normal college experience. There is nothing wrong with that.

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

@ Solomon Levi "Unless you know for a fact that this was an Honor Code violation, let's not make assumptions." Come on. At BYU, I'm not aware of too many players who get "kicked off" a team and un-enroll for breaking "team rules" that is not an honor code violation. I agree with many of the other comments- good for BYU to enforce what is very unique to this school. KUDOS to enforcing it. I agree with Y Grad/Y Dad- Best of luck to these two young men in the future endeavors/efforts.

Re: Stout, that ol' Iggy's Press Conf. isn't looking too good right now. Hang in there, Apo! You're the last man standing! Please stay. We promise to get you more involved in the offensive scheme .... next season!

Just the FAX
Olympus Cove, Utah

Chris B

Nice try, but as usual, your BYU-hating perspective on the world isn't even close to reality.

The "uniqueness of BYU's Honor Code" isn't even remotely connected to the real circumstances involving Sampson and Stout.

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