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Published: Thursday, Nov. 8 2012 3:14 p.m. MST

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LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Nice SPIN to slander a political Party.

Statewide INITIATIVES are not endorsed nor sponsored by party, but by individual citizens of that State.

Initiatives passed in Colorado and Washinton state had nothing, repeat NOTHING - to do with a particular political affiliation.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

I thought it was the Libertarians who push this law. You know, those far right leaning types like Ron Paul. Democrats? I think not.

Richard Larson
Galt, CA

Do not step on the grass Sam!

ParkCityAggie
Park City, Ut

Funny, I know more self-professed Republicans that smoke Marijuana than I do Democrats who use it. Can we all agree that we'll never stop people who want to use Marijuana from doing so? The question becomes who would you rather they give their money to? The local grower taxed and those funds used for better drug awareness education (not D.A.R.E that does not work), or do we want the drug gangs and cartels to have that money? How hard would it be to allow it to be sold at limited locations to those who are 21 years of age or older, keep it's public use illegal, make it a crime to use in the presence of a minor, still keep it illegal to drive under the influence of or use while driving, etc. Do dealers ask their buyers if they are over 21 years old? NO! If we legalize and regulate we can probably keep it out of the hands of our youth. More American youth use it more than in Amsterdam where its use is not regulated. Take away the tabbo and we'll see ues of Marijuana drop!

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

The movement to legalize marijuana isn't coming from any political party - it's coming from a recognition that the "war on drugs" is costing far too much and accomplishing far too little.

You want to put a serious hurt on the Mexican drug cartels, lower crime rates, _and_ raise a lot of money for our schools? Legalize, tax and control the sale of marijuana exactly the same way you legalize, tax and control the sale of alcohol.

Mad Hatter
Provo, UT

Well, Republicans lost the presidential election. They lost two seats in the Senate. They lost several seats in the House. They've come up with every excuse they can for why they lost including "media bias", "white minority status", "stupid people", so why not blame Democrats for two winning initiatives they had nothing to do with?

Washington state joined Maryland and Maine in approving gay marriage by popular vote. Republican social conservatives will find some way to blame Democrats for that also. If nothing else, gay marriage may be accepted in most of the United States within the next decade.

Karl Rove found he didn't have enought angry, white men in this election. Also, attempts at voter suppression, voter disenfranchisement, voter manipulation didn't work as well. Romney lost Florida after Fox News even said Republicans would sweep into office with ease.

Why is the conservative message falling on deaf ears? Because the message is wrong!

higv
Dietrich, ID

Is the conservative message wrong or are People wrong? Can you prove voter disengranchisement and manipulation? Every person that voted walked in and voted showed id and voted for who they wanted in peace. If drugs did not harm society there would be no need for them. But they must have done some harm in order for them to be on the books. GAy marriage is not legal in many states the majority voted it down. Hopefully it stays that way.

tabuno
Clearfield, UT

If one were to socially prohibit actions that others considered immoral or bad such as use of marijuana, then one would need to consistently support socialist practices of government control and prohibit alcohol, tobacco or require the use of helmets, eliminate junk food, perhaps even the federal government should take over the education of our children to ensure that they are taught the proper attitudes and behaviors that are moral and good.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Wouldn't those on the right take the stance that this is a states right and that the federal government should not be involved?

Then, shouldn't each state have the right to make their own choice?

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

No different from alcohol, really, but I wish the story writer wold have used an apostrophe at least once in their piece!

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

I share many of the same the concerns of the author in liberalizing/legalizing pot. If legal, medicinal pot should be prescribed, dispensed, and regulated as other prescription drugs--through a pharmacy, defined dosage etc. It is true here that people can easily obtain prescrips ie. licenses from Drs. to obtain pot. Federal laws complicate the establishment of dispensaries here, so I don't know how that will work in states which just legalized it. I worry about the youth. There is recent research about lower IQs and use of pot, also earlier development of mental illnesses such as schizophrenia in youth who use pot.

If pot is legalized what about the Amsterdam model, where people use it in certain establishments but cannot remove it from the venues?

I would hope other states will wait and see the results of this "grand" experiment in CO before following suit.

Igualmente
Mesa, AZ

A true Rocky Mountain high...as America continues to slouch towards Gomorrah..

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

"perhaps even the federal government should take over the education of our children to ensure that they are taught the proper attitudes and behaviors..." ... Oh wait, they already have.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Igualmente
Mesa, AZ
A true Rocky Mountain high...as America continues to slouch towards Gomorrah..

6:46 a.m. Nov. 9, 2012

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Name on civilization destroyed for not obeying the Word of Wisdom.

Sodom and Gomorrah,
The Nephites,
or any other civilization are destroyed by the Lord when they shun the poor, sick, needy, widows, children and elderly
AND
starting OFFENSIVE wars.

If if someone wants to bring Political Parties into it the blame of the destruction of America;
The GOP seems to be doing a fine job of it...

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

A true Rocky Mountain high...as America continues to slouch towards Gomorrah..

Well, I don't know about that, but there is another word for this: Freedom.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

LDS Lib: Almost thou convinceth me to be a Democrat...

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Liberal" unfortunately your beloved Democrats are the ones destroying the nation. Just look at the destructive programs that they have implemented.

If you want to look at the destruction that your ilk has caused, just look to the recent headlines.

In Forbes and the WSJ they have run articles outlining how the recession has been hardest on the poor.

Obama has cut Medicare spending, and reimbursement rates. That has been reported as a cause for Seniors to suffer because fewer doctors will take them as patients because the Doctors lose money when seeing them.

Just look at the sad state of the education system. Liberals have been dictating the curriculum there for decades, and we have been sliding backwards.

As for our widows, just look at how the government has claimed in recent years that inflation has been 0, yet this was due to the government changing how they calculated inflation.

So far, your ilk has hurt the poor, hurt our seniors, enacted bad education for our kids, and has cut the money to seniors. Everything you say will lead to our destruction is what your democrats are pushing, along with you.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

There are some great documentaries on the history of alcohol prohibition. You'll see why it's just not smart to make things like that illegal. You don't reduce the usage much while creating an underground evil black market for it.

People realized that mistake and made alcohol legal again, they'll do the same with marijuana even if they don't want to use it themselves. I'll never use it but I don't see the wisaom in keeping it illegal. Make it the same as alcohol for adults.

Knowledge is knowing that tomatoes are fruit, wisdom is not including them in fruit salad.

DVD
Taylorsville, 00

The argument for and against marijuana is still too devoid of facts. It was demonized in the days of making it illegal, but now it's promoted as a cure-all by those in favor. In the meantime the actual benefits and problems surrounding the issue are suppressed in favor of loud slogans and misinformation, in this case, in favor of it. Marijuana usage is addictive and is problematic. As much as alcohol, but with it's own unique social and health issues as well. There are beneficial uses for the family of plants too, however.

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