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Published: Thursday, Nov. 8 2012 6:59 a.m. MST

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one old man
Ogden, UT

They also need to stop alienating moderate voters who want sensible solutions to America's challenges.

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Hey George,

How did your prediction of Romney's 321 electoral votes to Obama's 217 work out? You need to stop listening to those in your party who advance their own cause by issuing bogus poll results (I'm looking at you, Rasmussen), and actually apply a bit of statistical science to your analysis of things.

The US electorate is no longer what it was in the 1960's, or even the 1990's. If you don't move on, your party will go the way of the Whigs.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

The Japanese were a very belligerent and tenacious enemy in WW2. It was only after 'facts on the ground' put them in a box (forcing them to surrender on our terms) that they morphed and became a trusted ally.

Conservatives aka tea party Republicans are in a similar situation. They are headed to a slow motion facts on the ground forced turn around. Either they will morph as the Japanese or they will be rendered inconsequential or some combination of the two.

They can't continue to spit in the face of those who they will increasingly need to rely on. Both president Bushes knew this and are/were already where they needed to be. There are other Republicans likewise.

Wonder
Provo, UT

The Republican brand has been damaged nationally by their utter refusal to do the will of the people and compromise, I think some of them see that, but there are so many who are afraid of a tea party primary opponent that, as of yet, they are too afraid of practicality. We can only hope that with time this fanaticism will fade as it has historically.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Ah yes, Republicans.

It's their Archie Bunkerism against the rest of the melting pot the rest of us call America.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

We'll see how they deal with the Puerto Rico statehood issue since Puerto Ricans voted for it (though there's an oddity in the 2-question structure that makes it a bit unclear if a majority really want it).

wrz
Ogden, UT

"GOP can't continue to alienate Hispanic voters"

You got that right, George. In order for the Republicans to win they must, as disagreeable as it may seem, lower their standards by:

1. Giving amnesty to illegals and opening our border to more of the same.

2. Opposing the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and agreeing to same sex marriage.

3. Being in agreement with the killing of the unborn (often referred to as abortion)

4. Agreeing to the legalization of drugs.

These are the major points the Democrats espouse and win on. We are becoming, more and more, an immoral nation and the Democrats are leading the way.

Alfred
Ogden, UT

@Wonder:

"The Republican brand has been damaged nationally by their utter refusal to do the will of the people and compromise..."

True. But it's very hard to give up one's standards. Democrats have little problem with giving up standards since they have none to begin with.

@atl134:

"We'll see how they deal with the Puerto Rico statehood issue since Puerto Ricans..."

Puerto Rico statehood would be the death knell for America. In the first place it would bankrupt our welfare system almost over night (and it's already bankrupt). Secondly, we would immediately become an Hispanic third world nation..

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Alfred
"Secondly, we would immediately become an Hispanic third world nation.."

Last I checked, Puerto Rico is tiny. A population of 3.6 million is good for about 8 electoral votes as a state. It'd be about 1.25% of the US population. So I disagree with your assessment.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

It would help iif republicans didn't accuse you of being a socialist welfare check cashing moocher just because you think democrats have decent ideas. it would also help if they acted like they care about the middle class and the poor instead of always talking about job creators. We are all job creators.

the truth
Holladay, UT

The problem isn't alienating Hispanics or or blacks or women or gays or anything.

The problem is presenting a united, cohesive, cogent, and coherent explanation of conservative principles.

We either get liberal republicans making wish-washy milquetoast statements, or the very conservative republican making wacky statements.

No one can figure out what they stand for or they sound crazy.

That is what alienates voters.

So they end voting for whom they recognize the best, or sounds more "reasonable" or hasn't alienated them even if they don't really agree with them or who will give them free stuff.

It seems Romney was right, over 40% of the people are dependent on government and do not pay taxes and will vote for who ever indulges their dependency or passions.

When people are presented with clear conservative principles they have always liked them and supported them. Those principles lift everyone up in liberty.

There seems to be few republicans who can or are willing to clearly and succinctly explain conservative principles, and too many who try to placate the over 40% and special interests, similar to democrats making themselves no different than the demos, So people just vote for the real demos.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

@the truth. The problem I and other people I know have with the Republican Party is they call you a socialist welfare moocher or cut and runner. When people started questioning the wars you were accused by the right as being a coward or not being patriotic. When you started questioning why do billionaires get taxed at 15 percent for capital gains even though it is their primary source of income and you are accused of class warfare. Why is any income taxed differently?

I've voted for republicans before but it truly feels the only people they care about are the people at the top.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Hispanics want handouts - lots of them. That is the BIG issue. Is is fair to GIVE Hispanics handouts but not give the same to Whites and Blacks and Red and every other color? If we do give to everyone where does that money come from - China? White people are getting sick of carrying every other race in this country. If I see an Hispanic or Black kid get a scholarship with less grades than my kid that is insulting and wrong. When America goes to "reverse" discrimination then we are no better than we were back in the 1960's with the KKK and blacks.

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

If Hispanic voters would quit listening to the Democrat propaganda machine, more would vote with conservatives. Heck, I wouldn't vote for Republicans if what the Democrat machine says about them were true! Too many people don't do their homework, learning and researching policies and their implications for themselves -- they believe the commercials, and they are fooled by appearances, flash, and style.

wrz
Ogden, UT

@Kalindra:

"When talking about deportation... the code states 'may.'

Please provide a reference... So we can all read it.

If illegal immigrants are not illegal until Obama says they are... why does he have guards on our borders? And why is it against the law for employers to hire them?

Besides, we're not talking about deportation. We're discussing amnesty.

"Obama did not say that young illegal immigrants would never be deported, nor did he give them an automatic (or even clear) path to citizenship."

Be advised, those steps would come after election when he prevails upon the Congress to pass 'comprehensive immigration reform.' Remember, Democrats need the Hispanic vote in the coming elections. How better to secure a vote than to grant universal amnesty?

PS: Reagan gave amnesty in 1986 under the authority of Simpson-Mazzoli.

'He called for a two year postponement on their deportation, giving them - individually - the opportunity to make the case for staying and allowing them work permits."

Which is in violation of the 'equal protection' clause of the US Constitution.

"Exactly which part of immigration law did he violate?"

We might have a hint if you'd give a specific reference.

WHAT NOW?
Saint George, UT

@patsy

"...Hispanics want handouts - lots of them...".

I was initialy tempted to ask you to research your hypothesis.
Having read your comments for the last year or so, I realized the facts would not change your message

So, please, find a job, with the rnc, as their Hispanic Outreach Coordinator.

With your hypothesis, the continued decline of the republican party is assured.

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