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Published: Thursday, Nov. 8 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

I think the rest of us are tired of being charactized as lazy, worthless do nothings always with our hand out. When one couples that with the perceived intolerance of others with differences of opinion then I for one understand how they are losing a grip on reality.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

The interesting thing is that the PEOPLE chose Republicans to represent them. The Senate represents the States. The President is the President of the STATES. The PEOPLE are represented by the House and the PEOPLE chose Republicans to represent them. Maybe it's time that the President and the Senate realized that the PEOPLE want conservative government. Maybe it's time that the President and the Senate yield their liberal ideas to the will of the people.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Mike Richards: You can gerrymander house districts, but it's not possible to gerrymander senate districts.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Mike's pretty arrogant to assume that he speaks for all the PEOPLE of this nation.

Some of us don't buy his arguments and simply seek sensible, moderate solutions instead of extremism.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

The Republicans are rapidly "aging out" with a party based on old, cranky, white guys. You can't win anymore by ignoring, or alienating, Hispanics, Blacks, women, gays, lesbians, and the poor. They will get smeared in a few more elections, and then go back to the drawing board and create a party more grounded in reality, that works for more Americans.

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

Maybe Republicans should pander to special interest groups by promising them money and power. Maybe they should live by the mantra, "If I say it enough, voters will believe it." Maybe they should lie. Maybe they should cover up their mistakes that get Americans killed. Maybe they should nominate someone stylish and "cool" but with no real qualifications for office. Maybe they should forget about passing budgets and taking care of the people's business.

Maybe they should be like Democrats.

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

Mike Richards got it right. Senators are elected to represent the state. House members are elected to represent the people of each state. The President is elected to enforce the laws passed by Congress and to represent the states (collectively) to the world and to act as Commander in Chief.

The House of Representatives is controlled by conservative Republicans. That was the will of the people. No spin can negate that fact. The PEOPLE all across America chose conservatives to represent them in government. The House controls the budget. It is their primary duty to represent the people when imposing taxes on us and when regulating any activity which they are authorized to regulate.

The President cannot legislate without breaking the law. He can influence legislation, but he can't write legislation.

The Senate can continue to block all legislation passed by the House, but doing that means that they have grossly overstepped their authority. They represent the interests of the states - to see that each state is equally represented.

Power plays by the Senate or the President shows a total disregard for the will of the people - who elected REPUBLICANS to represent them in the House.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

You mean hating everyone who's not male, rich and white isn't going to work?

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

@J Thompson;

How do you explain that no matter how REPUBLICANS try to redistrict Matheson OUT of office, he consistently WINS the vote of the PEOPLE?

really?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

J Thompson and Mike Richards.

Checks and balances are there for a reason. Bottom line is that the democrats control the White House and the Senate. Spin it all you want.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

J. Thompson,

"The Senate can continue to block all legislation passed by the House, but doing that means that they have grossly overstepped their authority. They represent the interests of the states - to see that each state is equally represented."

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So if the Senate is to rubber stamp everything the House passes, why even have the Senate?

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

This is a new season. The election is past. "Name calling" should be set aside.

We, the people, have elected people to represent us, our states and our nation. We have assigned each branch of the federal government specific duties and we have authorized each branch to ONLY perform certain tasks for us. It is our duty to see that those tasks are handled properly, within the bounds that we, the people, have set.

The HOUSE represents the people. The HOUSE is charged with formulating the budget. The Senate approves treaties and approves federal appointments. The Senate must concur with the House on a budget, but the budget comes from the house. The President signs, vetos or allows laws to pass without his signature. He is the Commander in Chief of the Military. The Court sees that all play fair and that all stay within the duties appointed to them.

Instead of slandering each other, why not discuss HOW the House can represent the will of the people? Why not discuss HOW the Senate can best represent the will of each State? Why not discuss HOW the President can properly enforce the laws passed by Congress?

HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

"The President is the President of the STATES. The PEOPLE are represented by the House and the PEOPLE chose Republicans to represent them. Maybe it's time that the President and the Senate realized that the PEOPLE want conservative government. Maybe it's time that the President and the Senate yield their liberal ideas to the will of the people."

Mike speaks for all people? Oh such extremism in that statement!!! How can these poor defenseless leftists take it???? Please please where can we find more saviors like Obama???? Defining the presidents, the houses' and senates responsibilities is such a matter of opinion!!! Poor poor leftist Obama lovers!!! Sarcasm off now. Right on Mike!!

red state pride
Cottonwood Heights, UT

You're right Roland- maybe we Republicans need a more positive message like " vote for revenge" or "they gonna put ya'll back in chains"
btw- Republicans have I believe 30 governorships so we're not completely in the wilderness yet

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Darrel,

Please read Article I of the Constitution that spells out the duties of Congress. Note that budget bills are to originate in the House and that the Senate may concur or propose amendments to those bills (Section 7). Read Article II, Section 2 to see that the Senate must approve appointments.

It's past time that we understood the duties of government and that we hold ourselves responsible to know when government is fulfilling those duties. We cannot ask government to do anything that is not authorized unless we first amend the Constitution. Until that amendment takes place, the limits of each branch of government is clearly defined.

The HOUSE represents the people of the United States. The HOUSE is charged with formulating a budget. The Senate can concur with that budget, but it is not required to concur. The Senate can propose amendments to that budget, but the House is not required to accept those amendments.

It's all there, clearly written for all to see, in the Constitution - the Supreme Law of the Land.

The power and authority of government is severely limited - no matter what an elected official says.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

roland,
why am I not surprised you have reduced yourself to gloating? The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

The demise of the GOP has been coming on for some time now, like a bad cold. The party has been hijacked by an irrational ultraconservative right wing. It can win enough House seats to obstruct but not to govern. It refuses to compromise, even on legislation that is conservative or moderate in nature. It is the equivalent of the snobby kid who says, "Either we play by my rules or I'll sit in the corner and pout."

The Republicans can't win the presidency by nominating a true conservative (as defined today). He (not she) would alienate anyone from right of center to far left. Romney was probably the best pick they could have made. He's a natural moderate who should have appealed to the middle and even to some from the center-left. But look where he had to go to win the nomination. He had to declare himself "severely conservative," embrace positions he obviously felt awkward endorsing, and then try to Etch-a-Sketch himself toward the center at the end. It came off as disingenuous.

I predict the GOP will split within the next four years or become irrelevant.

KJB1
Eugene, OR

Mike,

More people voted for President Obama than for Mitt Romney. Those same people had the chance to turn control of the Senate over to the Republicans and didn't. Capitalize all the words you like, but those are facts.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

The comments here show that repubs will never let facts get in the way of their opinions.

Nationally, the GOP needs to change. If it doesn't, it will never win another election. This country isn't ruled by white heterosexual Christian males anymore. You need to expand your demographic and reach out to minorities, women, non-Christians, immigrants, and homosexuals.

It's that simple.

J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

So very few people understand the Constitution that they think that the President somehow represents them. They think that voting for president is something more than it is. They are simply voicing their desire so that an elector can vote for them about a figurehead who will represent their state to the world. Their Representative sits in the House, not in the White House. Obama does not represent them. He can create NO legislation. He is completely powerless except to enforce laws passed by Congress.

The House is Republican.

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