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Published: Thursday, Nov. 8 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Ali'ikai 'A'amakualenalena
Provo, UT

Not only Hispanics and African-Americans supported the president in large numbers. Asians voted in even higher numbers (76%) and are the second-fastest growing segment of our society. Republicans have much work to do if they want to effectively court these people. Appeals to old, angry, white men will not work because this is a dwindling demographic.

Romney won an average of only 47% in the so-called battleground states and lost by a little less than 3 million popular votes overall. The take-away fro this is that the Republican message is not working. The American people are changing and those percentages will only decrease in the coming years if Republicans continue to embrace the reactionary policies of it extremist base.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I agree with Deseret News on this one. I was a Reagan Republican, but the Party has become so unbelievably Right Wing that he could never get its nomination today. Is it any wonder they have lost the popular vote in four of the last five elections? Is it any wonder that even with the worst economy since the Great Depression, the Democrats managed to win not only the White House but they increased their majority in the Seante and chipped away at the Republican lead in the House? I have many friends in the Tea Party who insist they would rather lose elections than compromise on things like immigration. Well you better get used to losing pilgrims.

SLars
Provo, UT

Are you saying we need to surrender our borders so Republicans can be elected.

Illegal immigration is going to tear this country apart. Why have military when we let people steal our land?

RichardB
Murray, UT

The last nine elections Latino's have voted for Democrats. In 2004 McCain was all for Amnesty, and they voted Democratic.

Contrary to what the Wall street journal says, they are Democrats by majority.

I pray for business, the media and government to obey our laws and stop flooding this country with illegal labor. We have 23 million people looking for full time work, and a national media that cares more about work for 12 million people here illegally.

Guest workers are subsidized labor for business, paid for by the taxpayers. The 2.5 million visas we give out each year make the business responsible.

Is this really your position?

RRB
SLC, UT

The Deseret news promoting and encouraging law breaking and dishonesty? Paint it how you want, there is already an amnesty, go home and come back legally.

Millions of Americans have had to uproot their families during this recession. It won't hurt them to do it also.

Kim
Cedar Park, Texas

Excellent editorial, Deseret News!

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

"The GOP needs to be re-embrace an immigration policy to rank better among the minority community"

Huh?

Is English a foreign language for the D News headline writers?

Legal immigration is great. Illegal immigration is not.

The left has opposed credible immigration reform even more then the right (Amnesty and soft boarders, designed to subjugate a permanent Democratic voting dependent class, are no more comprehensive or rational than merely building a fence)

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

Reading the tea party posts here (y’all know who you are) you would think we are on the verge of either paradise or total disaster - or at least on our way to becoming a banana republic. I wish all your doom and gloom predictions were on a betting line in Vegas… I could retire tomorrow. But maybe not, since like all “prophecies” that haven’t happened, there always is tomorrow so how can we ever prove them to be the nonsense that they are?

JoeBlow
Thanks for stating what I think the majority of us think. When will the parties (well, one party anyway) get in through their heads that we are a nation of moderates who don’t like my-way-or-the-highway extremists.

Ditto to Wonder and Ernest T Bass

lcg
Bluffdale, UT

Minorities went for Obama - with 70% of Hispanics saying the reason was for the social net. In other wards, they voted for Santa Claus!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

lcg
Bluffdale, UT

In other wards, they voted for Santa Claus!

1:07 p.m. Nov. 9, 2012

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Ah
a Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity listener.

How do I know?
what psychic powers do I possess?
How do I do such marvels?

You parroted them exactly.

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Show me an immigration plan that doesn't put those who have waited years and paid thousands of dollars to get here BEHIND those who arrived here illegally and I'll support it.

Congress can write a "new" immigration policy every week, but it won't help if it doesn't get enforced.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Yes become like the democrats - the hand out party. If you can't beat em join em. One thing for me was clear after this election - America has changed and America ...much like bankrupt Europe..is in serious trouble. I am reminded of a scene from Star Wars....

“Our fair Republic has descended into darkness. With the death of the Jedi, a few brave survivors you see, justice has died. With the proclamation of the Empire, in Senator Amidala's own words,So this is how Liberty dies. Amidst thunderous applause.”

Star Wars (Queen Amidala)

The last sentence - "so this is how liberty dies...amidst thunderous applause". How fitting this is to the clueless 47% in this country. How scary for the rest of us.

Alfred
Ogden, UT

@prelax:

"The implication is that Hispanics are too lazy, won't work, just want things given to them, etc."

Of course they wanna work. But, the fact is they get alotta free stuff such as free education and free health care that they would not get in their native countries... and that the American taxpayer has to pay for, whether we like it or not.

"And that they are some 'other' who is trying to 'take our country away' -- "

They are not trying, they're succeeding. When they can effect the outcome of a presidential election (and they did) you know they've succeeded.

I like immigrants. But there's a few problems... such as, they take work that Americans should be doing, while the American worker sits home and draws unemployment. We should only accept immigrants to work if there's work for them to do. And we shouldn't bring foreigners here for a college education. They get sheepskins, then go home and compete with us. Not too smart.

"...as if it's only for Anglo-Saxons I guess."

It's for anyone who will come here legally and live by our rules and laws.

wrz
Ogden, UT

@Liberal Ted:

"The Republicans do need to do a better job in getting to the latino voter and explain that our values are more in line, than those of the democrate party.

That's not the issue with Latinos. The issue, plainly stated, is: comprehensive immigration reform. Which is another way of saying... amnesty for all illegal Latinos in this country and amnesty for the millions more who chose to come here. They will be satisfied with nothing less.

Obama played the game brilliantly in the last few months of the campaign when he gave a two-year amnesty to a select group of Latinos and promised extensions after the election. This got him the Latino vote. What took the Latino vote away from Romney was his comment that Latinos should deport themselves. A real killer.

The first rule for politicians is to tell the people what they wanna to hear. Doesn't mean you have to do it when in office. But you gotta promise it. Romney forgot/ignored this fundamental rule. Romney would have the presidency now if he had (1) promised amnesty, (2) supported Roe v. Wade on abortion, (3) supported gay marriage.

Mr. Bean
Ogden, UT

@Red:

"It is amazing that we voted for Obama as a Country."

It's not that hard to fathom... Here, try these:

Homosexuals voted for him because he came out in favor of gay marriage... changing his position in the last minute.

Women voted for him because he favored the killing of the unborn (generally referred to as abortion on demand).

The Latino community voted for him because he gave a segment of that group two years of amnesty.. with a tacit promise to make it permanent after his election.

People on food stamps and other welfare give-aways voted for him because he promised more of the same.

And, of course, Black people voted for him because he is "their kinda folk."

"I'm still in disbelief."

Don't be... it's gonna get worse. In order for a Republican to get into the White House he/she will have to hold their nose and adopt much of the same stuff.

Alfred
Ogden, UT

@middle class:

"I might have voted for Romney if he had coughed up his tax returns for last 8 years. But he was hiding something."

He coughed up two years of returns. What would 8 years give you that 2 years didn't? Of course, he had money in foreign bank accounts. Had he put his money in American banks it likely would be gone as more than 500 American banks went bankrupt since 2000.

And how is it that you would have supported Obama even though he refused to produce his college/university papers. What was he hiding? You shoulda demanded the papers. It would have likely shown him to be a foreign student. Then what? That's why he didn't cough them up. He was and is a foreigner. In fact, he told us as much in his book... 'I was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.'

"He reminded me of Nixon in 1973 when we learned Nixon had used every loophole and exemption and paid only a pittance in taxes."

If tax loopholes are you hang up, your beef should be with the US Congress, not Romney.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

@LDS Liberal Archie Bunker was at least funny. The Gestapo was not and Dems and Liberals remind me of that.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

@Henry Drummond Henry you definetly sound like liberl Californian where it appears the U.S. Taxpayer will have to bail the State out. Full of liberals and welfare recipients. Reagan would surely win the Rep vote but I will guarantee you that JFK could and would not get the Liberal(DEM) vote.

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