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  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 11:17 a.m.

    We now know that Virginia is replacing Washington State on the 2013 schedule. The Virginia game is an away game, so we have 6 away games and 5 home games scheduled, which includes Middle Tenn. State, for which we do not yet have a date. We will need an additiona home game, or 2 home games, if we elect to play 13 games (Hawaii Rule). The schedule should be out very soon - I think Tom Holmoe indicated he was waiting for the signed contracts to be returned. This is a great schedule and I am excited for the 2013 season.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2012 10:22 a.m.

    Uteology

    You're making the same argument that was made against the possibility of a WAC or other non-power conference team ever winning a national championship.

    Then BYU caught lightning in a bottle in 1984, and the entire "football establishment" was turned on its head.

    It's taken 30 years to finally come to fruition, but BYU's 1984 National Championship was one of the catalysts that set major college football on its course to adopting a playoff.

    btw, after having an undefeated regular season in 1979, just like Louisville this season, BYU was also only ranked #9, behind several 1- and 2-loss teams from power conferences.

    btw2, Notre Dame is still in the Big East, but the Irish have a legitimate chance of playing in the BCS championship game THIS SEASON, which is a much more difficult threshhold to cross than making a four-team playoff. Notre Dame main reason for forming its alliance with the ACC was to facilitate easier scheduling and to have access to better bowls.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    @Riddles in the Dark

    True BYU fans are frustrated about losing three road games by a total of 7 points, not so much because of the losses, but because they can clearly see what could have been without one missed snap, one errant pass to a wide open receiver, or one botched two-point conversion.

    ----------

    One missed snap didn't cost you the game.

    It was the fact that Utah picked it up and took it to the house. Utah was up 24-7 going into the 4th. We let you back in the game by turning it over on downs at our own 16, which resulted in TD for BYU and the score 24-21.

    You also got spanked at home by Oregon State and won 6-3 at home against Utah State.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    --JEFFE--
    As soon as the play-off system goes into action in 2014, it wont matter if you are a member of one of the BIG-6 conferences.

    ---------

    Not true, but you can keep dreaming.

    If that was the case then Notre Dame would not have aligned itself with the ACC over the sinking Big East?

    I seriously doubt an undefeated BYU will get a playoff spot over a 1 loss team from the SEC, Big 12, PAC-12, or Big Ten.

    For example, look at Louisville at 9-0 they're currently #9 and behind several 1 and 2 loss teams from the SEC.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2012 9:32 a.m.

    BYU Imposter

    No team that's fallen just short of a one-loss season, that would have included road wins against two Top 25 teams, and a team that's now a serious national championship contender, has anything to be embarrassed about.

    True BYU fans are frustrated about losing three road games by a total of 7 points, not so much because of the losses, but because they can clearly see what could have been without one missed snap, one errant pass to a wide open receiver, or one botched two-point conversion.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2012 12:08 a.m.

    The BYU imposter

    "Do we really need to re-cap BYU's record this year?"

    What 'BYU fan' would be embarrassed about this year's record? Certainly not me, I enjoy BYU sports whether we win or lose.

    Only a poor Ute fan that's been so frustrated and disappointed over his team's sad performance for two years in their conference would ask the question.

    You're not a 'BYU fan'. LOL

  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Nov. 8, 2012 8:21 p.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT
    @nightynight

    Do we really need to re-cap utah's record this year?

    LOL!

    >>>>>>>

    Do we really need to re-cap BYU's record this year?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 1:00 p.m.

    @nightynight

    Do we really need to re-cap utah's record this year?

    LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 1:00 p.m.

    @54-10

    I doubt stanford will be more than ok next year. I suppose oregon might be on the November schedule but they will be no better than having Notre Dame on the schedule that month. We do know that utah's biggest rival colorado will be on utah's November schedule because that is when the pac12 has designated those two designated rivals play. That alone probably drags utah's schedule down below BYU's, not that utah is guarnateed to win, just that colorado is guaranteed to be a bad team.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 12:02 p.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    I believe you are the one "ignorant of facts". You make the claim " Both schools are far superior to what Utah will be playing against in November", yet Utah has not released the schedule for next year so you have no way of kowing when Utah will be playing Oregon and Stanford.

    Typical Duckhunter.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Nov. 8, 2012 9:40 a.m.

    Duckhunter said"

    "Others have already pointed it out to you but I'm gonna do it again just because your post was so ignorant of facts.

    Next season BYU has Wisconsin and Notre Dame scheduled for Novemeber. Both schools are far superior to what utah will be playing against in Novemeber.

    LOL!"

    Who cares! I would be laughing as well. BYU has already proven they are not capable of beating better teams.

    So I agree LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 8, 2012 8:15 a.m.

    @wookie

    Others have already pointed it out to you but I'm gonna do it again just because your post was so ignorant of facts.

    Next season BYU has Wisconsin and Notre Dame scheduled for Novemeber. Both schools are far superior to what utah will be playing against in Novemeber.

    LOL!

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:57 p.m.

    Hopefully, BYU will have 7 home games and not 7 away games. I would think that BYU would not want to play the 13th game (Hawaii rule) unless there were 7 home games. There would be no benefit for doing so, other than the exposure, but maybe exposure trumps 7 away games. The tentative schedule shows 7 away games right now: Virginia, Utah State, Houston, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Hawaii, & Washington State (no date scheduled). There are 5 tentative home games: Texas, Boise State, Georgia Tech, and Utah and Middle Tennessee State also with no dates scheduled. If BYU does schedule 7 home games, then one of the away games appears to be one of the teams which has cancelled, and would have to come up with two additional home games, or three home games if the other team that cancelled is either Utah or Middle Tenn. State, the two home games with no dates. You will recall, Tom Holmoe indicated that two teams had cancelled, one that was under contract and the other one not yet under contract. I would assume that an uncontracted game would not have a scheduled date. Perhaps it would also not be announced.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:33 p.m.

    The commentary here is a little funny. Honestly, I think this is a good series for each team. However, just the other day, I can't recall who it was, but some fan was trying to downgrade Utah's bowl win last year based on that fact that Georgia Tech lost to VIRGINIA, who lost to such-and-such, who lost to so-and-so, and on, and on, yet BYU's win over GT this year was so impressive because it was against "one of the best offenses in the nation" (although not as highly ranked as when Utah played them, or with the NFL players). So not only that, but now BYU is scheduled to play the "terrible" team that beat them. I'm guessing this poster doesn't come back to A) say they were wrong about the strength of Virginia's program, or B) continue saying Virginia is a bad team and a bad series scheduled by Holmoe.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Nov. 7, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    RE: Wookie

    I don't understand you logic. First you claim that BYU has NEVER scheduled a quality November opponent. When it is pointed out that they have two next year (ND & Wisconsin) you backtrack to "let's see" and "I hope..." The truth is that BYU has dramatically improved their schedule each year since becoming independent and there is zero evidence to suggest this trend will not continue. To the contrary, BYU is now filling in their cupcake holes with the likes of Cincy, Middle Tennesee, and Virginia instead of WAC opponents. They are still cupcake games but fulfill the expressed mission of helping the team gain exposure in different parts of the country (and those of us out here away from the mountain west really appreciate it).
    Obviously, simply playing a good schedule doesn't get any team into a "real bowl" game, or, as the Utes can attest to this season, any bowl game. Ultimately it comes down to winning, and both BYU and Utah need to step it up in that area. Go Cougs!

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Nov. 7, 2012 7:29 p.m.

    Re: Wiscougarfan

    Deep breath...its one year...2013. Lets see how Tom fairs for future years. Really, I hope that they Y does in fact improve is schedule, but that still doesn't get them into a "real bowl" game.

  • Jefe-Ute SLC, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 6:41 p.m.

    Don't worry BYU fans, Utah fans are VERY jealous of BYU signing up to play such a strong opponent. BYU will continue to lose to Utah because Utah is better coached, has better recruits, and plays higher level of competition. Because they will always loses on of their first games, their entire season will be a bust. So yes, we Utah fans are very jealous.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    Nov. 7, 2012 5:40 p.m.

    This is great news! Lots of BYU fans here in Virginia who will be there!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 5:15 p.m.

    Good to see someone else than the utes.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:23 p.m.

    worf "After a few more years of being the PAC punching bag, the utes will be begging for a Big Sky Conference entrance. Look for USC and some of the others to go independent."
    I thought only Colorado and Washington passed recreational marijuana laws. Perhaps Mcallen Texas did too...

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    "SoonerUte
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Ute fans should be excited about these announcements. Any sports fan should be excited about bringing good football to the state. More importantly, it gets the Cougars closer to playing a schedule as rough as what the Utes face. A tougher schedule means more Cougar losses. More losses means more in-fighting. Cougar fans will be busy calling for coaching and quarterback changes, and have less time for snide remarks about Utah's development in the PAC12."

    Huh, you left this comment on a BYU board where you seem to spend all of your free time. Just sayin'

  • gchris rock springs, wy
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:17 p.m.

    Virginia may not be a football powerhouse, but it is still fun to see BYU play a variety of teams across the country. These game always bring out many local BYU fans. The independent schedule may or may not lead to a national championship or play-off bowl but it certainly provides national exposure, which is a goal of the program.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:11 p.m.

    Congratulations, BYU, on a good addition to the schedule.

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:09 p.m.

    Realist: I have always cheered for both BYU and Utah except for the one game per year. If Utah does well it reflects well on BYU, and if BYU does well it reflects well on Utah. Both represent the state I reside in. I spend all day during the week talking with people in all parts of the country, and when BYU or Utah win, the fans know it.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 7, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    Chris B - Dukes going Bowling this year --- how is the U looking..... oooopppppssss sorry about that! And last time the U played UNC.... the final score was what? It doesn't seem that the Utes foray into a real conference is going all that well... one that has 2 of the top 10 teams.

    I think it is great that the Y is coming out east. One of the funnest games I have been to was the last time BYU came to Virginia and pulled ahead late in the game. The free little seat things were flying everywhere.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:46 p.m.

    After a few more years of being the PAC punching bag, the utes will be begging for a Big Sky Conference entrance. Look for USC and some of the others to go independent.

    Anybody think the utes can beat Lone Peak in basketball, or Bingham in football?

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:43 p.m.

    It would be so much easier to cheer, and be happy for the Utes if SissyB would keep his yapper shut.
    Prediction: UofW 24 - Uof U 17 Mark it down.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    lone star:
    I have Utah 9/28 with no date for games with Washington State and Middle Tennessee. That makes 12 rather than the 13 that I stated.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:29 p.m.

    BYU is doing a great job of filling out the schedule. I applaud the effort: well done!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 2:25 p.m.

    @wookie - open mouth, insert foot. Please do your homework before you post or make accusations.

    I'm pleased to have Wisconsin and Notre Dame on the November schedule. If BYU can continue with future schedules that look like 2013, I will be a happy Cougar!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:48 p.m.

    Wookie

    Have you even looked at BYU's 2013 schedule?

    8/31 at Virginia
    9/7 Texas
    9/14 TBA
    9/21 Boise State
    9/28 TBA
    10/4 at Utah State
    10/12 Georgia Tech
    10/19 at Houston
    10/26 TBA
    11/9 at Wisconsin
    11/23 at Notre Dame
    11/30 TBA
    12/7 at Hawaii

    Since BYU plays at Hawaii, BYU will be able to play 13 games in 2013
    Utah, Middle Tennessee St, and two more opponents are still TBA

    Nobody knows for sure, but it's possible that 4 or 5 of BYU's 2013 opponents could be ranked.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:47 p.m.

    The 2000 game was sensational! This was one of Bret Engeman's incredible second half performances. BYU was down 28-0 at half time, and then scored 5 touchdowns in the second half for the tie. BYU won the coin toss and had a defensive interception. Pochman kicked the field goal from inside the 5 for the victory. Perhaps BYUTV can get the rights for that game, I have looked for it in the past. Reynolds was offensive coordinator and Bosco was the quarterbacks coach. Those watching on TV you will remember the announcers saying "I guess we are directly next to the BYU box" when the coaches erupted after the final touchdown.
    Great game. This makes makes a full 13 game regular season for the 2013 schedule.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:40 p.m.

    RE: Wookie

    "This is why during the month of November there has yet to be announced a team that has any name recognition to help BYU get into a decent bowl."

    Perhaps you should do a little homework before you post. In 2013 BYU is playing both Wisconsin and Notre Dame in November with two more games TBD. For comparison sake, the Ute's schedule this November includes Washington State, Washington, Arizona, and Colorado (their 2013 schedule has not yet been released). Even if BYU plays their two remaining games against teams as lowly as Washington State and Colorado their November schedule will still trump the Utes. But go ahead and keep on trolling. Go Cougs!

  • Utes22 SPRINGVILLE, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    Sounds like it'll be a fun series. Good Luck Cougars!! :)

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    #utesnation

    "Remind me what the Utes would be jealous of?"

    The fact that Holmoe is steadily improving BYU's schedule, just like he said he would.

    And, the more BYU's schedule improves, the higher jealous Utah fans are forced to raise the bar, just to have something to whine about.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:16 p.m.

    This is a great game to add to the schedule. Virginia is not an Alabama, but they're also not Idaho. Personally, I don't want to play 12, Top 25 teams.

    Virginia is having a down year this year (with a losing record like Utah), but they're typically a pretty good team. With Texas, Notre Dame, Wisconsin and Boise State already on tap, this game fits perfectly; along with Utah, Washington State, Houston, Utah State, Middle Tennessee, Georgia Tech and Hawaii. This is what I dreamed Independence might look like.

    utah trolls - just curious - would you rather open the season with Virginia or Northern Colorado?

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Nov. 7, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    One thing that people forget (i.e., BYU fans) is that unless you are the Irish or _____ State University willing to play anyone for revenue (i.e., Idaho State, New Mexico State, etc..), it is tough to break into a real conference's regular season schedule (i.e., BIG12, SEC, PAC12, etc...) as BYU is finding out. This is why during the month of November there has yet to be announced a team that has any name recognition to help BYU get into a decent bowl. This should be the charge of Tom. I think he can do it, but it will take some time and willingness to play home-away schedules.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    This is good news for September, but what about October and especially November. BYU needs to fill those dates with quality opponents otherwise talk of playing in a playoff game will be moot. Also, keep in mind that although the BCS is going away, the real bowl games are being gobbled up by the original 6 elite conferences. For instance, the Sugar Bowl is SEC and Big12, that does not include independent. It is still a game of elite conferences where money and tv revenue control.

    These changes are good, but BYU needs to schedule for October and November. This is proving to be really challenging.

  • dallas realist rockwall, texas
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:47 p.m.

    Now that the Holy War is pretty much over for good , can I cheer for both teams?

  • AZJazzFan Gold Canyon, az
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:29 p.m.

    Great news, I was there at that last game when BYU won in OT. I enjoyed the drive there passing by a civil war battlefield and visiting the campus that Thomas Jefferson founded. Que viva la indepencia! I like this independence situation, though difficult at first I prefer it over the WAC and MWC. I appreciate seeing the games on TV and the variety in the schedule and places to visit.
    As for the Utes who like these BYU articles, please represent the state better. Big losses to ASU are embarrasing to me in these parts.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:11 p.m.

    fascinating how haters troll these sites

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 12:05 p.m.

    Chris B never disappoints. What's his prediction for the Utah/UW game? I hope he picks Utah so that UW actually wins.....that would be too funny.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    SoonerUte

    The only problem with your logic is that Virginia is not a good team. They are currently ranked 92nd, right behind Ohio, Georgia Southern, and Montana State and the Cavs haven't won a bowl game since 2005.

    I don't care how far the away the game is; BYU should win both games easily.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:44 a.m.

    Ute fans should be excited about these announcements. Any sports fan should be excited about bringing good football to the state. More importantly, it gets the Cougars closer to playing a schedule as rough as what the Utes face. A tougher schedule means more Cougar losses. More losses means more in-fighting. Cougar fans will be busy calling for coaching and quarterback changes, and have less time for snide remarks about Utah's development in the PAC12.

  • MarkMAN West Columbia, TX
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:41 a.m.

    So which team scheduled for next year does this replace? Nobody has answered this yet?

    Mark

  • #utesnation Centerville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:40 a.m.

    @Trollpolice

    Remind me what the Utes would be jealous of?? And when I think of a little brother I don't think of 3 consecutive victories and 8 of 11....

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:40 a.m.

    This is a great series... a chance to get some early season wins to counter the difficult schedules we have in 2013 and 2014. True, it is against a conference cellar dweller (a la Duke, Utah, Indiana) but we need more confidence early in the season and these games are definitely winable. Go cougs!

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    I like the match-up. its a good get for the cougars and it enhances the notoriety of football in the state of Utah as a whole.

  • SOCCERCOACH Oakley, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    I am really starting to like this independence thing! BYU all over ESPN and Utah, well I have Direct TV like so many others and haven't been able to see many of there games. Big ouch for recruiting. The future is bright for BYU. Van Noy - please stay one more year!!

  • Irrelevant Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:25 a.m.

    I like this series, I like how BYU is playing some very diverse teams. Ute fans can't really say that as they continue to get embarrassed week in and week out in the pac12.

  • TrollPolice Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:21 a.m.

    It's hilarious how every BYU scheduling announcement elicits a deluge of inane comments from our jealous little friends on the hill.

    Another exciting series for the Cougars and another chance to travel to an interesting part of the country.

    Slowly, but surely, BYU's Independent schedule is starting to take shape and every quality opponent added produces more angst amongst our little brothers.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    Chris B

    Kinda like Utah playing the dregs of the conference so Utah fans can beat their chests about beating 2- and 3-win "bcs" teams???

    btw, Duke(6-4) and North Carolina(6-3) are both having much better seasons than U. Of course, you'd know that, if you actually followed college football, instead of just spouting off.

  • CT98 Saint George, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    This is good news. I'll take an ACC opponent over a WAC opponent any day. Should be a fun matchup. Kudos to Holmoe for brokering this deal. It also gives the BYU fanbase in the Virginias a chance to see the Cougars in person.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    Awesome! Fans just need to be patient. This Independence thing is already turning out to be a great gig. 10+ games each season on ESPN, and every game on National TV. Increased revenue. Games all over the country, and against a variety of opponents. As soon as the play-off system goes into action in 2014, it wont matter if you are a member of one of the BIG-6 conferences. If you play a tough enough schedule and win out, you will get a shot. BYU has some intense schedules in the coming years, hopefully the staff and athletic dept. can put us in a place to be very competitive.

  • Downtownchrisbrown ,
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    I like how they are filling the bye week with these announcements to keep things interesting

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    Great job BYU, this is yet another team from a part of the country not usually frequented by BYU. Holmoe's doing a great job getting quality opponents for the Cougars.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:55 a.m.

    Expect that 2014 game to be bought out by Virginia, making this another one-and-done bodybag game for BYU.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2012 10:50 a.m.

    This is Holmoe's attempt to get a BCS win for the frustrated cougar fan base. You guys should schedule Duke and North Carolina in football too, you could really beat your chests then.