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Deseret News/KSL poll: Mia Love has slim edge on Jim Matheson in volatile 4th District

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  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 6, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    Is the main reason this race is close because of the money put into Mia Love's campaign from the far right of the republican party? Utah is understandably the reddest state in the nation. Nevertheless, shouldn't informed voters realize that Mia, despite her appeal and diversity contribution to the party, is still being used by the far right's support?

    I think Mia will win, but Matheson is not from the same cloth as Pelosi, Reed and Obama. Please voters, will you understand that Matheson is the right fit for Utah and has been decades now.

    Matheson is not on the far left. Look at his history of service and voting record. Forget the negative ads to the contrary. Forget the ads on both sides altogether. Educate yourself on the real facts and consider what is at stake for Utah.

    It's easy to see Mia Love as a breath of fresh air for Utah. Love has an amazing story. But she represents politics that are contrary to her success. If elected, others trying to duplicate her success story will be hard pressed to do so despite the work hard message of becoming everything you can be.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 6, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    Utah is at the bottom with Mississippi in education support. That's very sad. If Mia Love represents Utah in Congress, it seems to me this could get even worse with Love's education spending (or lack thereof) philosophy representing Utah in Congress.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 5, 2012 8:30 a.m.

    Of course my comments are derogatory because I don't think she is qualified and out of her league as a socialist convert to represent democracy and rights of citizens without government mandates and demands as a welfare state.

  • smarty pants Herriman, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 10:26 p.m.

    Mia Love is an attractive, smart and corageous young woman. Still my vote already went to Jim Matheson who seems to know better what he is doing. I watched the debates they had on KSL and honestly my husband and I were so amazed at the ignorance this lady has when it comes to health care. I still don't why she wants to get rid of student loans. That's the only way my husband was able to go to med school and we are still paying those loans. I hope Jim Matheson wins.

  • Allen#2 WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 9:49 p.m.

    Retire Matheson because he has been in office 12 years and does not live within his district.

    How can anyone use this argument to vote for Mia Love?

    IF 12 years are too long for Matheson, RETIRE Orrin Hatch who has been in Washington DC 36 years.

    IF not living in his district is unacceptable, why wasn't the same logic used against Jason Chaffetz who did NOT live in the district he represented?

    People are NOT voting for Mia Love because she is a woman of color...They are voting for her because she is a Republican.

  • vdubbin' Ogden, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 9:27 p.m.

    What many of you don't understand (somehow) is that when she talks about getting rid of the Dept. of Education she is trying to do you and your children a favor. The DoE is an entity in Washington, drunk on progressive ideologies about ignoring the children of citizens in order to better serve migrant populations, and basically entering into the curriculum all of the worst things about ultra liberal ideology that you could possibly imagine. She's not trying to rid us of teachers (I pay attention, as an educator) or cheat our children. She wants our unique (and wonderful) state to take the responsibility for educating our children away from desk jockeys, many of whom are not even educators themselves, and place it back in our hands. So, Wlidcat... I'm sure your intents are as pure as the driven snow, but you and others who pluck that line are woefully (or willfully) misinformed...

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:31 p.m.

    It's a healthy sign when Utah votes for not only a woman but a woman of color. I don't agree with her politics however.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:15 p.m.

    Re: mightymite DRAPER, UT
    "Cotta to love Utah politics."

    That's the opinion of the politicians from Chicago where the Democratic Political Machine rules supreme.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 4:50 p.m.

    Matheson doesn't have an R, is correct. But he also lacks some of the principles that he should be standing for and not just give in because he can't take the pressure from Pelosi or others in his party.

    His father may have been a diplomat and a politician but Representative Matheson is a politician, only. He just needs to remind himself that it does make a difference which side the bread is buttered.

  • BOEING 717 SPANISH FORK, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    I will be sad on election night as Romney and Matheson will bose lose. Sadly the best candidates don't always win. Utah will lose a great congressman simply because he does not have an R after his name. Sometimes the person is more important then the party. Sadly in Utah that does not look like the case. I guess it is more important to have the worst member of congress that is Republican for many people. She was an awful mayor and is not going to Washington to be the best in congress. Thank you for all your hard work Jim

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 4:02 p.m.

    Other then being LDS, Mia is not a viable candidate. Cotta to love Utah politics.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2012 3:18 p.m.

    Re: Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah

    Hopeful Mia Love will be elected and it will make Nancy Pelosi see red. (Pun intended.)

    Mai Love will be a better fit for our new president. It just doesn't get any better than that.

  • Johnnyoh! ,
    Nov. 4, 2012 2:36 p.m.

    Jim Matheson took the opportunity to run in a district other than the one he lives in thinking it would be an easier race to win.
    He now will have to pay the fiddler as they say, he chose the dance, and it looks as it will cost him.
    He votes for the Pelosi adjenda all the time, it's time to make change in this country, and with a team Pelosi player it won't happen, with love she will work for all of those in Utah not only the people in her District where she lives.
    Good choice in Mia, "A Change is as good as a rest".....anon

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 12:59 p.m.

    @carman

    "It is time to send Matheson, now a career politician, packing."

    Are you aware that Rob Bishop in the 1st Congressional District is running for his sixth term. Is it time to send him packing, too? Does he get a free pass because he is a Republican?

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 12:52 p.m.

    @JWB

    Does Jason Chaffetz know where is district is? For the past four years he has lived outside his district.

    Is that okay with you because he is a Republican?

    How quickly Republicans forget this very FACT.

  • RobertSailing Orem, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 12:40 p.m.

    This is not a difficult decision, Matheson = Obama, Pelosi and Reid. There is no way an intelligent person could not see this relationship. Who do you think paid for the $5.5M in campaign ads for Matheson?

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    It is time to send Matheson, now a career politician, packing. He votes with the Dems when it matters, and for his constituency only to score political points. Mia Love will better represent her district and the state.

    Show a little Love this fall. Vote for Mia.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 12:00 p.m.

    What are we going to do when Mia Love gets rid of the Department of Energy and the Department of Education? A lot of kids who would otherwise be in public schools (who can't afford private school) will have a lot of time on their hands, and a lot of Nuclear Materiel will be left unguarded...Isn't it obvious?

    Have these kids guard the Nukes! B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T

    Only in this great State can someone so grossly unqualified as Mia Love even have a chance.

    Thanks redistricting committee (gerrymanders) for making Utah the biggest joke of the United States (move over Mississippi). God save the Beehive State!

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 11:21 a.m.

    Mia Love would be an excellent choice to represent Utah. She is smart, savvy to the issues and a
    tireless worker.It would send a message of hope for talented minorities that Utah wants the best representative period. Jim Matheson and the DCC has hurt him by their over the top attack ads. They are so misleading and outright lies that most decent people know can't be believed. Matheson's idea of running ads that show he puts Utah first is more effective.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    Matheson has learned over 12 years how to defend his process and even doing some debating. Matheson grew up in a politicians home and was in a completely different environment than Mia Love. Our country is made for all people, kinds, types and circumstances. We can't have all Representatives that fit a box type of slot. We have to have a variety from all types of backgrounds. That was probably part of Senator Bennett's problem. He was good but was in that environment too much of his life. He didn't do all the things required of an active Senator, like respond to constituents on a regular basis if they wrote him a letter.

    Matheson has been in office longer than some expected and if he wins, he will hopefully take a look at what Senator Hatch has done differently in the past 2 1/2 years, being more interactive with constituents. Matheson has done that a little bit but should have listened to his heart over Obamacare instead of getting caught in Pelosi's lack of real leadership.

    Mia will do well but Utahns look down on women in politics and that is a shame. She has shown courage to win.

  • myview2 Kearns, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 10:41 a.m.

    Mia may win but not your man Romney! Too bad, ya finally get a Mormon in there and ya still can't pull it off. And just watch what Mia does for you in Washington. They are not saviors either remember that, they are politicians!

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 9:56 a.m.

    We need all the help we can get to fix the country. Mitt needs more Republicans around him!

    Vote Mia.

    Mia, You are getting a gift. Please don't blow it.

  • tabuno Clearfield, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 9:50 a.m.

    I would hate to see this race outcome based mostly on who could outspend the other in ads and how outside supporters have put up negative ads that backfire on the integrity of the candidates. That being the case, it seems that Rep. Matheson has not been served well by the fewer ads supporting him, lack of apparent national support against the onslaught of Mia Love's support from outside the state, and the confusing and off-message or dubious political ads being used to support Rep. Matheson that are likely outside the control of Matheson's campaign. This is not the American or Utah way.

  • bobidaho SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 8:56 a.m.

    Looks like Utah might have an all republican contingent to the national forum where they can be so proud of the Family oriented state that spends less per pupil on education then any other state. And of course Utah will vote for a favorite son candidate for president that will get rid of the estate tax so that soon instead of the top 20 percent of the population owning 85% of the wealth maybe we can have the top 5% owning 85 percent of the wealth. Those job creators are the folks we have to look out for. Being easily in the top 5% myself I find this goal to avoid taxes immoral. What happened to the concept of "to whom much is given much is expected" ? I will vote Tuesday in my SLC precinct against my own personal best financial interest. As a small business owner I know I cannot raise revenue by cutting my income. Romneys plan is a financial disaster much worse then what we have now. David Stockman former budget director for Reagan learned this in the 80s and wrote a book explaining it. Romney should read it.

  • Allen#2 WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:57 a.m.

    Lifelong Republican: I live in the NEW 4th District and think the ads run by the super PACs for Mia Love are the ugliest of the ugly ads run by the super PACs.

    However, my favorite ad is where Lifelong Republican Jon Huntsman Sr. endorses Jim Matheson because Jim Matheson is a conservative who represents our state very well.

    I attended a "Meet the Candidate" for Mia Love in a neighbor's home and would probably vote for her against anyone except Jim Matheson.

  • Paul Scholes Provo, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:33 a.m.

    Mia Love is one of the worst debaters I have ever heard in my life. If she were not in an overwhelmingly Republican state, her chance of victory would be very slim indeed. As one who normally votes Republican, I cannot bring myself to vote for her. Utah deserves better.

  • photographermom South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:33 a.m.

    Fingers crossed Mia Love!

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:18 a.m.

    A vote for Matheson is a vote of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama. Matheson's ads are too negative.

    GO Mia Love. We love you.

  • play by the rules SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 7:14 a.m.

    Trib poll of LV has Mia up by 12. This poll does not look at LV, however Mia is up by 6 when factoring in lieners. We now have several polls with Mia leading. I don't think this will be a long night. I am seeing huge momentum for Mia on the west side in West Jordan, South Jordan, Riverton, and Herriman. This is looking like a 10 point win based upon the electoral fundamentals which is consistent with the margin of error in the SL Trib and Des News polls.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:42 a.m.

    Lifelong Republican,

    Matheson has the worst campaign ads ever? Like the one with all the republicans leaders going on record voting for him? There is a reason those folks were willing to go on tv and speak against their party.

  • Utah Observer West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 4, 2012 6:02 a.m.

    What has happened is that Matheson has won the previous six elections, thanks to moderate Republicans who have continued to vote him in office. This election is not about what Matheson or Love has done good or bad It's the Republican Party trying to persuade its own members to support its own candidate. That's why Mia Love has all the endorsements and money from the National Republican Party. Republican leaders don't want to continue to be embarrassed again and again by Matheson winning elections. Matheson has proven himself to be an excellent representative for the state, based on his past support and endorsements from many diverse groups and individuals. Do we want someone riding coat tails of fellow party members who want Love for their own purposes or someone who really puts Utah first rather than party. For me and many others, our choice is Matheson. Hopefully, that opinion will prevail Tuesday.....

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 1:51 a.m.

    If you are like me and are tired of the competing claims about Rep. Jim Matheson's voting record re: ObamaCare, consider the following:

    For those that think Rep. Matheson helped fight "ObamaCare" when it passed, think again.

    Look at what votes he made the last week prior that helped set up what happened Sunday March 21, 2010. For those that wanted the bill to pass, he voted against it, for those that wanted it to fail, he voted to suspend the rules so it could pass.

    Look at votes 129, 130, as well as votes 159, 160, 162 and 163
    He did the same thing months before:
    Look at votes 881, 882, 884, 885, 886, 887

    The legislature didn't redistrict Rep. Matheson out of the 2nd district. He lives in the current 2nd and new 2nd district. The new 2nd district and 4th district are reportedly both as republican as his current district. He chose to run in the 4th district because he resides in Utah and the US constitution doesn't say he has to run in his own district. Unless he moves, he won't be able to vote for himself this fall.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 4, 2012 12:19 a.m.

    One thing the picture in this article validates is that Mia Love knows where the 4th District is, as she actually lives within that boundary. She knows people there and can relate to their situation. Representative Matheson can't answer yes to many of those things.

    He lives in another District but purports to say that he will get to know them if he is elected.

    I believe that many people have learned more than they wanted to from the type of ads and campaigning he has done this election cycle.

    Mia Love has courage to step up and run with the ball. She is doing basic campaigning by visiting and talking with people that live in her district.

    Run hard, Mia.

  • Lifelong Republican Orem, UT
    Nov. 3, 2012 11:39 p.m.

    Matheson has the worst campaign ads ever.

    Romney and Love!

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 3, 2012 11:09 p.m.

    A slim edge is all that is required. Go Mia!!