@mike richards It makes me physically sick that people show a complete
lack of respect for the people that where killed all for the chance to take
another shot at the president. There is no evidence to support the claim you are
making and your conspiracy theories do nothing other then further traumatize
the families of the victims.
@mark Look at the quote: "No one at any level in the CIA told
anybody not to help...."We can infer from this that the help was
denied by someone outside the CIA.Now look at your other quote about
Doherty being sent from Tripoli. What's your point? When he and Woods
called for more support, they were denied. There was a special
counter-terrorism force at Sigonella, Italy, that could have been in Benghazi in
two hours. (They were about the same distance away as Tripoli was.) They were
told to stand down.By whom? Who gave that order? Either that
person disobeyed a "very clear directive" from the president, or the
directive itself is a fiction.
To "mark" so lets get this straight. Whitnesses who were on the ground
in Benghazi told reporters that they requested backup, and were denied any help.
You don't believe the people who were in the middle of the fight, but have
chosen to believe the CIA spoksperson?To make this perfectly clear,
you choose to believe a spoksperson over the eyewitnesses.
Nate, "However, when Woods and Doherty requested military support, it was
not sent to them."CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood, though,
denied the claims that requests for support were turned down. "We can
say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during
that terrible evening in Benghazi," she said. "Moreover, no one at any
level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary
are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were
saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night-and
that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue
their comrades"Doherty was part of a team sent in for support.
"Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former
Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global
Response Staff"Both quotes are from FOX news.
Okay, Mike and Boxerdog, then I will ask again: what is your proof? What is your
evidence? And be exact, cite sources. You have serious claims: integrity demands
you provide clear proof to back those claims. And don't be providing stuff
out of context, or half truths. You are charging this president with allowing
people to die for political gain, Mike, you need to have strong evidence for a
claim like that. Lets see it. And if you cannot provide clear,
unmistakable evidence, Mike, then we will know that it is you that is using the
deaths of four Americans for political gain. Be careful.
Precisely what would George Bush, John McCain or Mitt Romney have done to
prevent it from happening?I'll tell you: They would have done just
what Obama did, nothing.
Obama said in an interview, "The minute I found out what was going on, I
gave three very clear directives -- Number 1, make sure that we are securing our
personnel and doing whatever we need to."However, when Woods and
Doherty requested military support, it was not sent to them.So
it's one of two things --Someone received a "very clear
directive" from the president, and did not obey it, and lives were lost, and
the president is holding no one accountable. This is a failure in
leadership.Or, the president didn't give the order and is now
lying to the American people.Which is it?
@ KJB1“Oh, please. The only people even pretending that this
is a "controversy" are Fox News and right-wing posters on comment boards
like this one. Desperation is in the air...”Hate to burst your
bubble but other networks as well are talking about it and it's only
getting bigger. Google it….It’s pretty sad that people
who support Obama ignore the facts, flat out say they don’t exist even
when it’s proven to them, to the point they defend him even in deaths that
could have been avoided. What is it about him thank makes them turn a blind
eye, even when he is in the wrong and there is proof he was? A liar is a liar,
no matter what position they are voted in to and that goes for all politicians.
Who are we to question Valerie Jarrett's decision?
What is the price of four lives? What is the price of the more than thirty
lives who were abandoned by the United States Government when assistance was
requested - and denied.It makes me physically sick to think that
anyone would excuse anyone in Government for abandoning United States citizens
who were under attack. It makes me physically sick to think that
anyone in Government would try to tell us that a "movie" was to blame
when they KNEW that terrorists had attacked our embassy.The truth is
coming out and there is nothing that the government can do to stop that truth
from coming out. No matter what lies they continue to tell us, we will know the
truth. We will know that four Americans were "sacrificed" for political
For those of you trying to better understand why the lies and deceit surrounding
the murder of our ambassador are not being reported, just take a look at the
Onion. They ran an article titled "Media Having Trouble Finding Right Angle
On Obama's Double-Homicide" It is pure satire, and was written in
2009. It speaks volumes about the love affair the media has with Obama.
Grundle:I hope you're as outraged as Jason Chaffetz as you are
with me. I'm just some schlub on a comment board; he's the one who
bragged about cutting funding for security.
The answer to your questions is very simple. There is no credible proof that
what you say actually happened. Like your letter Fox News simply
said that they had learned ...and nothing about who, where and how they learned
the information. Who was the teacher?
Where was the right's skepticism when their President demanded that we
invade Iraq over imaginary WMDs? Had they reacted with skepticism
and demanded actual evidence to be provided, thousands of folks dead or maimed
would be alive and well and TRILLIONS of dollars would have been saved. I have learned that the right is only skeptical of the government when a
Democrat is in the White House. But when it's a repub, they drink the
kool-aid 24/7 resulting in enormous debt and death.
@ the self proclaimed alleged "Eisenhower Republican" - the point is not
so much the security breakdown but the lies about the nature of the attack. The
point is that Hillary and Obama used the arrival of Ambassador Stevens casket as
a photo op and a stage to spread more propaganda about their silly little
offensive video. Nothing to see here folks...just keep moving and drinking
Remember when 241 American servicemen were killed in their barracks in Beirut?
Remember how the right-wing went crazy blaming Reagan for the lack of security?
Yeah, me neither.
Okay, rifleman, so did you have any actual evidence that any of the claims made
Whatever,thanks for proving my point that the only thing you can fall back
on is the tired old "Fox News" foil.
Re: George Bronx, NY"Please show is actual evidence that any of your
claims are true."When Kyle Clark, a reporter with 9News in
Denver, asked the president about the requests for help and whether or not it
was fair to make Americans wait for answers on Benghazi until after the election
he refused to answer. If this had been Bush who'd screwed up protection
for our Ambassador to Libya the liberals wouldn't be acting nearly so deaf
and blind.This is all going to bit Obama on Nov. 6th. and it
doesn't have a happy ending for the liberals.
You know, whatever, you are 100% correct. It is the most surreal thing to watch
the conservative talking heads trying to make some kind of, any kind of, scandal
out of this thing. Even to make the accusation that the president of the United
States, as well as his advisors, as well as the joint chiefs, and the secretary
of defense, secretary of state, and CIA chief, sat around and just allowed
Americans to be killed. These crazed talking heads on FOX and talk radio are
saying President Obama specifically wanted to see these people die. But why? And
not a single person that was actually in the room has come forward with this
claim. But a grieving father, that has absolutely no way to know what actually
happened on the tragic night his son died, he carries the banner of truth. And the breathless republican lap dogs eat this stuff up. Oh
they so much want - need - for Obama to be the bad guy.
apparently the letter writer has swallowed whole every conspiracy feed to them
without question. Please show is actual evidence that any of your claims are
This is a shameful episode and the buck stops with Pres. Obama. When libs
can't come up with good excuses, they always blame "Faux" News.
Talk about a red herring! This issue is important because it goes right to the
character (or lack of) of our current president. He was so busy being a
celebrity that he didn't have time to worry about the truth. He has been
given a pass throughout his administration because the MSM adores him so much
that they can't bear to tarnish his image. To me, our president is a
classic narcissist. He and his wife have shown total disregard for Americans.
While most of us are really strugglling financially, he and Michelle continue to
golf and take lavish vacations at our expense. Much was made of the cost of a
blouse that Ann Romney wore, while nothing was said about Michelle's dress
which was thousands more. It's just so hypocritical. Benghazi-gate is
just another reason not to vote for Obama. It's his lack of character and
willilngness to do whatever for political expediency.
@ lost in DCBoy you right wing faux news automatons sure have it all
figured out... I'm sure the Obama administration sat there and just watched
as the attack happened, denying any and all help because they're a bunch of
left wing peaceniks who don't have the guts to step up to all the threats
to this country like the repubs, who proved exactly what they were made of on
THE REAL 9/11... Acting like you're all privy to some deep dark government
conspiracy. Pathetic really.
How much of this story is actually true? How much of it is coming from very
questionable sources such as Fox, Rush, Sean, Glenn and others?The
truth is that no one really knows yet.
now guys, back off on KJB1. After all, BO is the messiah of the left and is
above reproach. NOTHING he does or is involved with is ever wrong, and Fox is
totally evil because they are filling the role of responsible journalists while
the lamestream media munches kibbles in BO's lap.I see nothing
from any of the other usual leftist posters here - I guess they realize they
cannot defend BO on this one. KJB1's only resort is the usual "Fox
hates BO" foil, which is almost as tired and lame as the overused race card.
As my repub friends like to say, LETS TALK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES!Why
is Mr. Romney running away from the economy talk? Why isn't he explaining
how his much maligned tax plan will actually work? Could it be that *gasp* it
just isn't possible? Why is Mr. Romney running away about his increasing of
defense spending talk, which would add $2 trillion to our deficit over 10 years?
Why is he running away from his talking points from just a few
months ago to now agree with President Obama on nearly everything when it comes
to foreign policy? If this whole embassy issue was truly
controversial why didn't Mr. Romney bring it up in the last debate?
Methinks that even he knew that it wasn't worth discussing (and we know how
Romney will go to any length to make an attack. Even attacking Big Bird)! So again, repubs, lets get back to the real issues, shall we? I get the
feeling you folks have already thrown in the towel for this election and are
already back to your nutcake ways with wild accusations about birth certificates
and embassy controversies.
Almost every part of Charles Woods story is in dispute and just because you
listen to Faux News or Glenn Beck doesn't mean that any of you know
anything about what went on either.
@KJB1,Your statement says volumes about your world view.Of course this matters.Of course this is an issue.Wake
up and see this for what it is.Our military puts their lives on the
line. They need to know that they have their leadership watching their back.
Before any of you go on with the "What about Bush" tripe, do
not assume that criticism of this administration is an automatic approval of the
previous administration. This is not a "we versus them" issue. This is a dereliction of duty issue.I want to know that when
my son is under fire and calling for back-up, that my commander-in-chief will
not ignore his need!
Re: KJB1 Eugene, OR"Oh, please. The only people even pretending that
this is a "controversy" are Fox News and right-wing posters ...."Would your comment also include the father of the former Navy Seal,
Tyrone Woods, who was killed? The questions are being asked and Obama is
refusing to answer them.
@KJB1- you're right. There's nothing controversial whatsoever about
the President, Secretary of State, and UN Ambassador flat out lying to the
American people and the world. Nothing controversial at all about a dead US
Ambassador whose dead body was dragged through the streets and videotaped/
photographed. Nothing controversial at all about 3 dead Navy Seals. But those
comments Richard Murdock made in Indiana- now that's a real controversy!
Why that man believes in the dignity of all human life- he's a pariah! He
should be ran out of the political world on a rail. What a sad state of affairs.
There are so many people who just blindly follow this President, for a variety
of reasons, and they can't stand the thought that he might do something
terrible. The mainstream press is full of such people. They won't ask the
hard questions because they are afraid they might find some ugly truths which
will force them re-examine their beliefs about him. My guess is that
if the issue is forced out, the press will then say what he did was not so bad.
That is what they did for President Clinton.
Oh, please. The only people even pretending that this is a
"controversy" are Fox News and right-wing posters on comment boards like
this one. Desperation is in the air...
The media is turning a deaf ear to this story because if it is true Obama knew
the truth and lied to Americans and fed us that anti-Muslim video red herring
story. It would appear that Obama tried to throw the CIA under the bus as part
of a cover up and they leaked this story to get even with him.So why
did former Navy Seal Tyrone Woods light up an enemy position with his laser? It
doesn't make sense that he'd make himself a target if he didn't
expect an incoming missile to take the enemy out.
I agree that the (non) response to the attack on the consulate in Benghazi was a
travesty and I agree with the father of Tyrone Woods- this was American soil and
how would Americans feel if this had happened in LA or NY and their was no
response from the Commander in Chief. To me though, the biggest scandal is
that our President went on the David Letterman show and hemmed and hawed about
some stupid, irrelevant video causing the "spontaneous" attack. He also
lied to the World about it at the UN and had the temerity to say the attack was
" a natural response" to an offensive video. And all of you people
who were uneasy about Gitmo need to know that the producer of that video is
currently in jail with no hearing set until after the election. Scary times