Published: Tuesday, Oct. 30 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
With the voting process today, electronically, when voting at a polling
location, it is most likely better to cut out the straight party line.I remember when you could vote without declaring the party for a primary. I
almost felt I was in one of the countries I lived in but didn't vote as I
wasn't a citizen but that had a dictator type leader and they were asked
how they had voted. Not so bad, maybe, but the military person who asked it had
a rifle or weapon.It would be better and keep the citizens better
informed if they had to vote for each candidate, separately, and then the
judges, referendum or propositions for other local actions wouldn't be
overlooked.The electronic voting machines do help remind people, but
if you vote by paper ballot a person could miss some of those important votes.
In Utah, it is almost a one party state and the straight ticket
voting and declaring what party you are for a primary sort of stymies the
process when not everyone goes to the ballot box to vote for our leaders for the
term. It could make it more friendly.
I have never understood the notion that having more people vote enhances our
"democracy". And I certainly don't understand why the straight
party vote option is even an issue. It says pretty clearly on the mail in ballot
that you can vote straight party and also select candidates individually so
what's the issue exactly? You can't force people to vote on "down
ballot" candidates for school board etc nor can you force people to vote on
referendums- in an allegedly free country it's their prerogative to vote or
This is a ridiculous proposal. One party stands for big government and
bureaucracy and one would like to make it smaller. Love the straight ticket
option. I think therefore I do not vote Democrat.
It's good that academia is different than the country ad a whole. Thisserves the purpose of getting people to think and question theirexisting
culture and assumptions without which cultural improvementwould be far
more difficult.Imagine the advantage if there were a powerful
liberal professorshipfirmly established in the Middle East fighting
discrimination againstwomen and the idea that is our duty to terrorize
people who are norlike us.
Not gunna happen in Utah The Republicans do all they can do legislate advantage
to them, from the recent gerrymandering to dumping voters. "Play by the
rules" they change them as often as their paranoia will allow.Sounds more like some don't want to think because they believe the
everything is black and white, good and evil, got news for ya, it ain't so,
never has been, never will be.
For those that use and advocate for Straight Party voting. Do you agree with
every member of the given party on every issue?For instance, do you
believe Akin regarding "Legitimate Rape"? How about the
"Birthers"? By your casting a vote for a given party, you are agreeing
with every member of the party on every issue. Even if you don't agree
with it.Now, I personally don't agree with everything from the
Republican side nor do I agree with everything from the Democrat side. I am
what I call an Independent Republican.An Independent Republican is
one who is not afraid to research issues and find the candidate that best
represents the same views on the issues important to them.What is
surprising is that when you strip out party from the equation, you will see that
you like candidates from both parties. This is how you find proper
representation.I would encourage that not only do we drop the
"Straight Party" vote option but also remove political affiliations and
incumbent status from the ballots. This way we encourage an informed voter
rather. Of course this will never happen as the parties want to maintain power.
Makid,I agree with some of what you have said, however there are
enormous ramifications in the party affiliation of our elected officials. I
think that the Jim Matheson is one of the finest representatives that we had
have. However, his party affiliation, and subsequent party line leadership
vote, gave power to, in my opinion, one of the most destructive congressional
leadership and majorities in my memory. The very sad reality is
that party affiliation matters.That is why I will be voting against
a very good representative.That is why I will be voting for a
Senator that has been in office way too long.
The only places who love ONE-Straight-Party voting are places like:IranNorth KoreaChinathe former Soviet Unionand Nazi
Germany.Utah is not that far beyond them.MakidI
agree -- We should even drop the R's and D's ect.I
don't need a "Party" to tell me who to vote for.Vote
for the PERSON, never ever the Party.
There are many aspects to the straight party vote that all of the commentors
have made.One thing I notice in some, it is easier to vote. Easier
is not necessarily what we want. Work is good. Thinking is good and living
with the results of what we do can be good or bad.Some choose not to
vote as they say their vote doesn't count. That is rationalization. I
don't agree with HVH very often but HVH has a good point to think about
also. Having lived outside of Utah in other countries and states, I
may have a different perspective of this God-given right to vote. Utah wanted
statehood and agreed with the Federal government on aspects of statehood that
other states didn't have to agree to. Our religious and political leaders
made a decision how Utah would comply with that mandate.Unfortunately, people have made that part of their lives in how they see party
affiliation. Individuals running for office, in order to get elected in Utah,
chose to be Republicans. Very few Democrats in Utah are elected. The result,
some Republican leaders got elected by straight ticket when they shouldn't
I remember 4 or 5 years ago in Kinston, NC they decided to eliminate party
affiliation from being notated on ballots. Who roared in and fought it tooth and
nail? The non- tyrannical, open minded Democrat Party. That said,
let's go easy on the praise of our token Democrat Jim Matheson. What kind
of man would affiliate himself with a party that inflicted a Stalinist
bureaucracy on our nation's healthcare system? What kind of man aligns
himself with a party that doesn't respect the life of unborn babies? Etc
List those running in alphabetical order; do not designate their party on the
ballotIf you do not know the name of the person you want to vote for; then
you are not a good voter.
I believe the political parties themselves have outlived their purpose. These
private governments within our lawful governments are detrimental to the concept
of government for the people by the people. They shift the purpose and action
of our real government to their private benefit at the expense of the people.
In elections they force, by their financial power, people into two groups,
neither of which represents the will of the people. Truly
representative government would represent the issues and opinions of the people
of like minds rather than geographical location. All national and state
representatives should run and be elected by the entire state at large. The
president of the United States should be elected by the popular vote of the
citizens of all the united states. All impediments to voting should
be removed. No requirements for petitions or referendums other than the ballot.
The ballot should provide space for the voter to enter his own petition and
favor on the ballot itself. If the issue is entered and favored by a majority
of voters, it becomes instructions to the legislature to accomplish the request.
This is a ridiculous proposal. One party stands for big business, big church,
big guns and the wealthy and one would like to focus it more on real people.
Love the straight ticket option. I think therefore I do not vote Republican.
I've reviewed the sample ballot and in every case the person I intend to
vote for is a republican. It's quite nice to press one button rather than
multiple, which could result in incorrect votes. Granted, it isn't this way
every election but having a straight party vote this year is much more succinct
and accurate. I see no reason to eliminate it.
Ms. Beck, the Utah County official summed it up nicely. People are more willing
to stand in line for days in order to get the latest crappy cell phone or
tablet, but can't spend 15 minutes of their time deciding the future of our
country. People spend more time learning about their apps than learning about
what being a citizen menas. I believe many Americans couldn't care less if
we had a government like China or North Korea, as long as they still could
access the internet at their parent's funeral.
It is very obvious the Ms. Beck has not voted this year, because if she had, she
would discover that EVERYONE is forced by the voting machine to go through the
ENTIRE ballot and confirm all voting preferences. Selecting a party option just
selects those candidates that belong to that particular party. The voter still
is FORCED to scroll down the entire ballot and confirm those choices one screen
page at a time. It shows with a checked red box those candidates for the
selected "straight-party" vote. The voter still has the option to
change their vote for that specific office (called scratch-voting), and then
confirm that change by selecting "Next" which then displays the next
page.At the end of the party candidates, you are then guided to vote
to confirm/not confirm the Judges, then to choose any
Amendments/Propositions/Bond approvals, etc. until you reach the end, where you
are then prompted to have your ballot printed within the voting machine, and
finally prompting you to authorize your ballot to complete the voting
process.This is a "much ado about nothing" being pushed by
It is nobody's business if I want to vote straight party or not.
Re: Hutterite American Fork, UT"I think therefore I do not vote
Republican."Translation: Voting "R" bad. Voting
"D" good. Got it!!
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