Published: Monday, Oct. 29 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
"Europeans can't vote" Is this a miss print? Or just a blatant
lie?Every country in Europe is a democracy. Europeans all vote! (The ones
that can be bothered to anyway)Mormonism is considered a bit of a Joke by
the vast majority of free thinking Europeans, but apart from that Mitt Romney
did come to London and make a complete fool of himself.
Re: "I suspect that American presidents will continue to embrace religion
and Europeans will continue to be amazed by that."And I suspect
that fact explains a lot of Europe's troubles.
A Romney presidency would be an eye-opener in the field of religion. But to be
fair, President Obama and family are also church-goers, but because it's
not an 'unusual' religion, it isn't given the same attention as
Governor Romney's. An eye-opener for many as well may be the LDS
church's welfare program as media attention may get placed on that.
Oh, European support for OBama must be hatred of religion, especially
Moromonism. I just can't be due to the fact that President Obama has
rebuilt America's prestige around the world with a more inclusivve foreign
policy. It must be because Europeans are less religious and they just
can't understand a "righteous" man like Romney. It can't be
because they see that Obama's social policies are more forward leaning and
just, and that Romney would eliminate universal healthcare not to mention
turning wall street loose to return to the policies that allowed them to
practically destroy the economy's in this country and around the world.
And, it could not be that they see Obama as a preace maker, and
Romney as a potential war monger. No, its all about regligious bigotry, nothing
Obama is still very popular in Europe. A republican with whatever credentials
would have an uphill battle and surely Mr. Bennett would knows that.
Europeans can accept certain behavior (mistresses and other indiscretions) as
private and not indicative of a person's competence, but not religion. Both
are a measure of character and religious values are no less legitimate than
secular vales. You also forgot the mention that Iran and Venezuela both prefer
Europeans tend to care more for and about one another as people, rather than
embracing the 'every man for himself' attitude. Plus, they recognise
religion for what it is, and seem to do a better job trying to keep it out of
Perhaps it's because the Europeans don't want to get sucked into yet
another Middle Eastern War.
I am not surprised about the continue European love affair with Obama...I was a missionary in England when Jimmy Carter was president.
Inflation was rampant in the U.S.; Americans from the U.S. Embassy in Iran were
being held hostage; intrest rates were near 20%; gasoline prices had doubled and
Carter gave a speech from the White House of a great maliase that had overtaken
our nation. And what did the English think of Carter? I heard many times that
he was "the greatest president ever." And as for religion,
in northern England where I was, a former Methodist minister who had converted
to Islam told me that about 3% of the population there goes to church on Sunday
(churches such as the Catholics, Methodists and Church of England). I attended
a few other faiths there and thought it sad that they only people attending were
in their 60s. Further south in our mission, church attendance was slightly
better... so it's no surprise that Europeans view religion with such
Maybe the Europeans are smart enough to recognize flips and flops.
These good folks in Europe need to brace themselves for disappointment. It
isn't looking real rosy for Obama right now.
Bennett gives too much weight to religion as a factor in Europe's
preference to Obama over Romney. Bush alienated Europe from the U.S. when Bush
took to task those allies who refused to sign on for military intervention
against Iraq over WMDs which turned out to be a hollow justification. Telling
them "you're either for us or you're against us" turned off
France and Germany who had provided more cooperation than our other allies to
root out al Queda cells after 911. After the Bush era of unilateralism, the
Obama Presidency came in like a breath of fresh air.
@Mike in Cedar City:"I just can't be due to the fact that
President Obama has rebuilt America's prestige around the world..."Apologizing is not rebuilding.As Romney stated in a debate,
America doesn't dictate to foreign countries... it rids dictators in
foreign countries."It must be because Europeans are less
religious and they just can't understand a 'righteous' man like
Romney."No, it's because the Catholic Church has had Europe
in its grips for centuries. But they need to pay attention as Muslims move in
enmass to take control."... not to mention turning wall street
loose to return to the policies that allowed them to practically destroy the
economy's in this country and around the world."It was the
government loosening real estate mortgage requirements allowing for the
proliferation of sub-prime mortgages to people who couldn't pay that almost
destroyed our economy.
My question to everyone is why would you take the endorsement of Europe? Those
countries do not have a leg to stand on. While my vote is still undecided, I
will admit that this story has me leaning more towards Romney.
Mr Bennett- you should have clarified that Western Europe (the sclerotic, one
foot in the abyss side) supports Barack Obama while the relatively vibrant
Eastern Europe supports Mitt Romney
@one old man:"Maybe the Europeans are smart enough to recognize
flips and flops."Europeans seem to love the major flip-flopper,
the one and only Barack Husein Obama. Mmmm, mmm, mm.
Europe is a mess. You want heavy social programs and medicine, take a one way
flight. Europe has historic and beautiful places to visit. Some, and only some
countries actually make their primary and secondary educators have graduate
degrees. That's about all the value to be desired in Europe. Oh, good
food too. I love how the panelist that was slinging garbage about Mormonism
apologized only after he realized a Mormon was in the room. Classy. Lots of
character. Why do so many want to emulate Europe? Talk about a sinking ship.
I know the American boat is taking on water as well, but let's not pull the
plug by adopting a healthcare plan like Canada has had for 50 years, that they
are now undoing because it costs so much. And Mike in CC, that's a real
rose colored view of your man BO, but they really don't place much value in
religion because of what took place under pretense of religion for so many
centuries. You're exactly right, they like BO because he's not a
threat. He's a pushover and they know it. China and Russia are perfect
evidence of that.
Ah, the one panelist gambit...Bob.One panelist does not
make a trend...Neither does a smattering of like minded conference
I served a mission in Germany during the mid 70s. The constant discussion with
the Germans was always socialistic leaning. They thought, (and still do), that
religion is purely an institution and state-controlled, that should not be
looked upon favorably at all. Furthermore, it is taught in the classroom, like
we are beginning to see in our public schools, especially college, that religion
is a man-made crutch, etc, etc. Karl Marx never died in Europe. Obama's
Nobel was rushed to him, after just 6 weeks as POTUS. This was quite laughable,
but not surprising to me.
WRZ in Ogden. Obama oppologizing for America is one of Romney's biggest
lies. You might consider doing a little independant fact checking. If you do
you will find that Romney and his campaign have told a whole bunch of
"whoppers" -- this was one of their first.Other Romney lies:
"The economy is worse" It's actually noticeably better.
"Obama has doubled the deficit" Actually it's a little lower. I
could cite at least 18 more misrepresentations or outright lies. But there is
not enough time nor word space available in this comment block. Spend a little
more time doing your own analysis and a little less time on Fox News is my
advice to you.
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