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Published: Saturday, Oct. 27 2012 9:15 p.m. MDT

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Hagatha
Ogden, UT

@Parry is a Farce
-Bingham beats Fremont handily, Fremont graduated a special class last year and is just not that good, they probably should have lost to Layton and not even be in the tournament but a good draw against a champion from a bad Region 2 gets them here.

--Fremont should have lost to Layton?? Oh, wait, you are from Layton, so that's why you say that...FYI Fremont dominated Layton from start to finish and shut them out.

If anyone shouldn't have gone to the playoffs from Region 1 it should have been Davis whose great defense gave up 41 points to your mighty Layton Lancers.

Fremont has had multiple injuries all year long that have plagued their quarterbacks and running backs and lineman. If they don't have these injuries, they would have beaten everybody from Region 1 except Syracuse.

Hagatha
Ogden, UT

Predictions(5A):
What will really happen:
--Alta 17 Syracuse 14
--Bingham 31 Fremont 14

--Jordan 45 Northridge 35
--Lone Peak 28 Davis 13

What I want to happen(but will likely not happen):
--Syracuse 21 Alta 20 (OT)
--Fremont 23 Bingham 20

--Northridge 35 Jordan 31
--Davis 24 Lone Peak 21

----But hey, that's why you play the game, right? Anything can happen on any given day in sports.

plyxply
SLC, UT

I love reading all of these comments on the games this weekend. Hagatha you're correct Box Elder is a 4A school, they moved up when I wasn't looking.
My opinion is that Syracuse has a very good defense, but Alta's offense is outstanding. They scored 24 points against Don Bosco, only one team has scored that many points on DBP in the last 4 years and it was Bergen Catholic who scored 27 in the NJ state title game in 2010. Included in those games were Manatee Fl (currently ranked #1), De La Salle, Bergen Catholic, (5 other games held under 24 pts), St Thomas Aquinas, and numerous other top 50 programs in the nation.
Those of you who didn't see the Alta vs DBP game this year will try and say that Alta scored against the backups, which is not the case. DBP played their starters until the final play.
We'll know soon enough how good the Cuse defense is.

Fan of The Game
Hill AFB, UT

Comment Part 1

First, let me say that I am new to the area and that this is my first experience with Utah High School football. I have been really impressed. I have a son who is currently on the Northridge roster, but I have tried to keep up with all the teams, at least 4A and 5A. Since I have been to the majority of my Sons games, I have not had the opportunity to see the great teams from the other Regions, although I have read up and researched stats. When Jordan played the team from California, I was really impressed. I mean for them to play up to the level of such a high caliber team that is ranked so high in the Nation, says a lot about Utah High School football. They really seem to have a solid team and the QB is a beast. I was researching his stats from his freshman year as well as this year and the numbers are just crazy. For this young man to have over 1,000 yrds rushing and over 2,000 yrds passing is incredible, until I found out he is an 18 year old sophomore. Really?

Fan of The Game
Hill AFB, UT

Comment Part 2

I would have to agree with some of the other previous posts, Region 3 has got to be the toughest Region, at least this year. It is undeniable that their schedule was much tougher than any other Region. As for Syracuse, also a very good team. The game with Northridge went down to the wire, although I feel that a botched snap was the biggest momentum shifter of the game. Based off of the games played and strength of schedule I predict Alta over Syracuse, Bingham over Fremont, Lone Peak over Davis.

Fan of The Game
Hill AFB, UT

Comment Part 3

when it comes to Jordan and Northridge,I’ll say this, one of the biggest advantages of being a 5A school is your depth. I believe that Northridge has this depth but has not utilized it throughout the season. I have also heard that Syracuse hasn’t as well. Both have admitted that several players not only play both ways but start both ways. I am in total agreement that you put the best players on the field but as a coaching staff, it is also your responsibility to ensure that your TEAM is prepared, not just your 7-9 starters. I believe that both teams were able to do this while playing inferior teams throughout the regular season, but when it comes to playing stronger teams this may come back to haunt them.

goaggies1
Clinton/Davis, UT

plyxply
If you were at that Don Bosco game when they played Alta you saw them get wooped by a great team. Alta had no chance to win that game. Their running game was bad, their passing game wasnt much better. I think Alta finally scored when it was 31-0. I was sitting on the Don Bosco side. Don Bosco would give Snow College a great game. Their defense got eat"in up. So ont come out at say they were awesome. Syracuse will beat Alta. Write it down. syracuse has nothing to prove or out for revenge. They just play tough football on all three phases of th game. Yea I know they havent played anyone up to your standards try telling that to the players. This Syracuse bunch of boys have only been beaten once in 3 years of playing. Northridge is there only lose 3 years ago. "Nobody comes into our backyard and pushes around". Syracuse can play with any team in the state any given week.

Fan of The Game
Hill AFB, UT

Final Comment

Also if Northridge utilizes their leading running back more without the ball as much as they do with the ball, they can be just as, if not more successful. NO question he is a talented athlete, but sometimes as a coach, focusing on an individual rather than the team can cause cancers within the team that you don’t know exists. Example, when they played Syracuse, 4th and inches to the goal line, everyone knew who the ball was going to, (like in every game) a simple play action or possibly a counter and the game goes in a different direction. Instead, Syracuse makes the stop and game is over. In the end, I expect the game to be a good one, but if adjustments are not made during the game, it’s going to be a long bus ride back to the “’Ridge”.

goaggies1
Clinton/Davis, UT

plyxply
If you saw that Don Bosco team you forgot to say the final play of the game a kick off return to give them their final points. Alta got hammered. Lets tell the right story. 31-0 before Alta even relized what hit them.

Hagatha
Ogden, UT

@plyxply
Hagatha you're correct Box Elder is a 4A school, they moved up when I wasn't looking.

--They have been a 4A school, for quite some time now...they were a 4A school when they won the state championship back in 1995, and that was 17 years ago, so you must not look up North very often, course then again a lot of the Salt Lake and Utah County folk do not like to look up north at all, and hate to see the success of the northern Utah teams over their all county teams in SL and Utah county. My advice, look up north more often, it'll expand your horizons and make you a more rounded person.

Hagatha
Ogden, UT

@ plyxply
Who did you play for and when? and who did you coach for and when?

I'm not worked up about Box Elder, I just like to make a point and prove it to people that think they know everything about high school football in the state of Utah.

I played sports in Region 1 and have actually won a state championship in one of the sports I played, can you say that? Didn't think so.

Parry is a Farce
Layton, UT

Hagatha

Who made you the monitor and put in charge of correcting everyone? You need to chill a little.

You say: "Example # 5 From Parry is a Farce: I think Region 2 would have gone 1-3 if they'd played each other in the first round." And then you explain why they could not have gone 1-3. Yea, thanks for the explanation. I tried using a little impellishment there to make the point that Region 2 is terrible. Obviously lost on you.

Yes, Fremont beat Layton handily. But the fact that Layton had beat Davis and Davis had beat Fremont made Layton the favorite in that game. Plus Layton had just nearly upset Northridge and Fremont to that point had beat no one but Weber. Layton, on paper, should have won that game. If Fremont was so good, they'd beat Davis and no play-in would have been necessary. That was my point. But again, thanks for correcting me.

BTW, I'm a Bingham alum, so they are not my "mighty Layton Lancers".

Fan of The Game
Hill AFB, UT

I would like to retract my previous comment about Jordans QB being 18. Got information from unreliable source. Regardless, still an amazing athlete.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

@Hagatha

You make some very true points. I am a California transplant and even I knew BE had been 4A for several years. I coached at a Utah County school when we were expected to win in the early rounds in 2004 and we walked into BE only to get smacked. They have been 4A for some time now.

I have to say I disagree with some of your predictions, so here are mine. It is nice to finally meet someone open minded with an unbiased opinion.

Predictions(5A):
What will really happen:
--'Cuse 23 Alta 17
--Bingham 56 Fremont 12 - Only because Fremont gives up just too many points

--Jordan 30 Northridge 20
--Davis 21 Lone Peak 19

What I want to happen(but will likely not happen):
--Syracuse 21 Alta 20 (OT) *I agree with you this would be fun
--Fremont 29 Bingham 20 *Just so there are no more questions from binghamalum

--Jordan 31 Northridge 28 *I just think Jordan deserves it, they are good
--Davis 24 Lone Peak 21 *I just don't like LP and I think they are very overrated

Just my 1 cent, not even worth 2 cent

Hagatha
Ogden, UT

@ Parry is a Farce
"Who made you the monitor and put in charge of correcting everyone? You need to chill a little."

--I made myself the monitor and put myself in charge of correcting everyone, because I am a leader and that's what I do. I get sick of all the people that don't know anything that post on here thinking they know everything about high school football. The truth shall be set free!

"If Fremont was so good, they'd beat Davis and no play-in would have been necessary."
--Like I had said in one of my previous posts, Fremont has had injuries all year long that has plagued their team in many different positions and if they would have been healthy when they played Davis, they would have beaten them handily as well. But, injuries are part of the game and it is something that has to be dealt with by every team.

Hagatha
Ogden, UT

@UtahBruin
Thank you. It is finally nice to see someone else on these boards that is not biased and actually knows something about high school football instead of being closed minded and unwilling to research or learn about the facts.

-I love your comment about the Fremont-Bingham game--*Just so there are no more questions from binghamalum. :)

-The Davis & LP game to me is a toss-up...I don't like either of those teams, so it's hard for me to say who I want to win. I have seen LP play once this year and seen Davis a couple of times, and Davis hasn't impressed me, but then again neither has LP. I think it will be close, but I think that LP gets some "calls" that go their way and give them the win at home.

Parry is a Farce
Layton, UT

@Hagatha

". . . because I am a leader and that's what I do."

Yea, seen that self appointed leader thing blow up more than once.

ProudBigBrother
NORTH SALT LAKE, UT

@Fan Of The Game

Good self correction :) I had also heard that Kafentzis was 18, which I confirmed was not true. He is just an incredible 16 year old sophomore QB! I plan on following his high school career, even though my connection to high school ball will have moved on to college next year.

Hagatha
Ogden, UT

@Parry is a Farce
Yea, seen that self appointed leader thing blow up more than once.

--Did I ever mention that I was a self appointed leader? I don't think so, correct me if I'm wrong. You are assuming that I am a self appointed leader...and like I've said before, we all know what happens when we assume things right?

I would spell it out for you, but if I do that, my comment won't be able to go through the moderators, so you'll have to figure this one out on your own.

--Don't get mad when someone corrects you after you have made a mistake, get glad because that person wanted to educate you and increase your knowledge on the subject.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

@Parry is a Farce

"Yea, seen that self appointed leader thing blow up more than once."

You mean like the Obama Campaign, Hitler, Stallin.....sorry this is football, I just couldn't resist.

Listen Layton, I don't think Hagatha is really trying to push your buttons, I just have to agree with him that to many people spew on here and it is simple school pride more than talking real knowledge. I am not saying you are a spewer, you made it clear you are a Binghamite, not a Lancer. So I appreciate your comments on Region 1 and 2, however, you even lost me a bit with the 1-3 deal, I am not sure how or where the embellishment comes from. But regardless, potato, puhtato. I agree with you that Davis and Lone Peak is going to be a close game, I admit, I have not seen Davis play this year, I have seen Lone Peak more than I want to and they are sloppy, I just think Region 1 is better than people think.

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