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A. Scott Anderson: Utah's economy proof of principled and responsible leadership

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  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Oct. 29, 2012 10:29 p.m.

    To "The Real Maverick" What you should be asking is why is it that we are spending 2/3 of the national budget on entitlement programs and welfare. If we can't afford to pay for the constitutionally mandated programs, why are we giving money away?



    To "CHS 85" actually conservatives will do something about the quality of our education. A recent study has shown that since the 1980's utah has doubled its per pupil educational spending, and test results are nearly the same. At the same time, home schooling and charter schools have become more mainstream. Conservatives have shown that when the system fails, they will make their own system to avoid the failure.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Oct. 29, 2012 5:39 p.m.

    Good grief.... really? It wouldn't have anything to do with the lack of an economy that did not have its roots in agriculture, or dying industries or manufacturing? It has nothing to do with the fact that Utah's population is highly condensed in a couple of MSA's?

    Lets counter Utah's results against my lovely new home state. North Carolina has almost double utah's unemployment rate. Why. Well when you look at the state, it is really two different states. One is the old North Carolina focused on agriculture, furniture manufactures, and textiles. All those industries have been destroyed by the export of jobs. The unemployment in those ares is double Utah's, and Durham's. Durham other hand is the poster child for the new North Carolina. In each of the last 3 years, its GDP has risen over 7 percent a year. Household incomes are way up.

    And Durham is also one of the most liberal cities in the state. The most down trodden counties - very conservative of the state.

    Now I know that "principled and responsible leadership" is code for conservative, but in this case, there is no corollary here. Nice try.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2012 5:04 p.m.

    You forgot that other reason Utah is the place to do business, Scott Anderson, and we know that you, Zions Bank, Zions Bank officer Luz Robles, Gov. Gary Herbert, the Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce, and others, are right in the middle of it: ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION in Utah: infiltrating and influencing the Utah legislature to DISREGARD matters of right and wrong when it comes to illegal immigration and its associated crimes such as identity theft, with the result that Utah is well-known as Sanctuary State for illegal aliens -- the fastest growing illegal-alien population center in the country, in fact. This works out great for Utah businesses, since it provides CHEAP, ILLEGAL LABOR, never mind Utah's unemployed and underemployed, which also drives down most everyone's wages, across the board, until Utah also becomes one of the lowest-paying-wage states in the country, factoring in the cost of living. No wonder Anderson is endorsing Herbert.

  • collegegirl Draper, UT
    Oct. 29, 2012 1:02 p.m.

    Scott Anderson has it right. The Governor knows his role is the keep the government in check. The governor can't create jobs, but he can encourage job creation. Governor Herbert keeps taxes low and maintains a stable regulatory system to encourage the private sector to succeed.

    Education is an important topic to discuss as well and it always seems to be linked to the economy. Education is important, but we can not just throw more money into the system in hope that it improves. The best way to create more funds for education is to have more people working and more people paying taxes. Having a prosperous economy is the most important aspect for the governor to prioritize. He has my vote

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2012 12:39 p.m.

    "I'm betting they will say they want America to be strong. . . "

    You know for all the tough talk coming from conservatives you would think they would know something about the United States military.

    Our military is the most powerful war machine the world has ever known. We spend huge amounts of wealth on it, more then most of the rest of the world combined. Our military technology is the most advanced technology, by far, that the world has ever known. Our special forces are the most effective, deadly, well trained group of people the world has ever seen. There is not one military, not one navy or air force, not one, of any country in the world, that could come close to competing with ours.

    For all of Mitt Romney's complaining, there is no question, whatsoever, that our navy could destroy all the other navies of the world, combined. And they could do it in hours. We would hit them before they even knew we were there.

    Our military is strong and will remain strong.

    That said, things like the Benghazi attack will happen. And there is very little anyone can do about them.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 29, 2012 12:02 p.m.

    Re: The Real Maverick Orem, UT

    Let's wait until Nov. 6th and see what the voters say. I'm betting they will say they want America to be strong so our enemies aren't tempted to repeat what they did in Benghazi, Libya under Obama's watch.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 29, 2012 11:53 a.m.

    Re: CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    "Then, you and your ilk will complain about the quality of education the children are receiving."

    No, we won't need to complain because we are satisfied with the excellent progress our children are making in charter schools.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Oct. 29, 2012 11:45 a.m.

    "The difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives realize that money you borrow from your friendly payday check cashing business has to be paid back .... with interest."

    So then why are we spending 24 percent of our national budget on defense? Where was the concern over borrowed money when we decided to start 2 wars? Aren't the trillions spent in the ME going to also be paid back with interest or is only spent on social services and education going to be paid back with interest?

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 29, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    @Jory

    Okay. I'll tell her to do her job with the supplies provided. Then, you and your ilk will complain about the quality of education the children are receiving.

    Yes, you want to starve funding and complain at the same time.

  • Jory payson, utah
    Oct. 29, 2012 6:35 a.m.

    @CHS
    No offense but its teacher's like your wife that keeps subsidizing the failures of the school districts. Its not our fault (the taxpayers) that your wife has to spend money to buy class materials. We pay the money. Its your wife's bosses that fail to properly earmark it and she, along with the other teachers, keep subsidizing the school administrators stupidity by using their own money.

    Teachers. Stop spending your own money on materials so the symptoms can fester and the problem can actually be fixed. You are not doing yourself, or the kids any good. You are just covering up the problem that these school administrators are causing. The problem won't get fixed until both teachers and parents complain. The problem is the school adiministrators in the districts.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 29, 2012 6:34 a.m.

    Re: mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Re: CHS 85 Sandy, UT

    What liberals in both Utah and California have in common is the bogus idea that the taxpayers aren't already paying more than their fair share of taxes, fees, and assessment.

    California's idea is to borrow money they don't have. Utah's idea is to not spend money we don't have. Now if you want to redistribute some of the money we are paying state employees and spend it on education that is fine with me.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 28, 2012 8:56 p.m.

    "Does providing a qualified workforce require education spending?"

    No, throwing money at our education system in hopes that some of it will stick has proven to be a total failure on a national level."

    Uh, fifleman, I'm not sure about money on a national level, but I doubt it has been a total failure, but I'm pretty sure Roland was talking about local education spending.

    "The difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives realize that money you borrow from your friendly payday check cashing business has to be paid back .... with interest."

    No. No, I'm rather sure that both liberals and conservatives understand that loans have to be paid back with interest, even if it is money borrowed from a payday check cashing business, friendly or otherwise.

    "And no, California will never be able to borrow it's way out of debt."

    Who was talking about California, and, for that matter, who brought up payday loan centers? And who in the world thinks that California can borrow its way out of debt?

    Just who are you talking to anyway, rifleman? Straw men?

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 28, 2012 8:46 p.m.

    Ignore that UT is in the top 10 nationwide for number of federal employees per capita.

    Overlook the LDS church as a major employer in the state which financed a major commercial building project in Salt Lake City during the recession.

    Go ahead and pat yourselves on the back......

    btw Howard Jarvis, USU grad, has the dubious distinction in CA for ushering in Prop 13 and it's detrimental effects on CA's budgetary process.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 28, 2012 5:00 p.m.

    @Rifleman

    I'll tell my wife that they are just throwing money at education when she budgets $300 per MONTH to pay for supplies for her classroom. I wish they'd throw some her way.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 28, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    Re: Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    "Does providing a qualified workforce require education spending?"

    No, throwing money at our education system in hopes that some of it will stick has proven to be a total failure on a national level.

    The difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives realize that money you borrow from your friendly payday check cashing business has to be paid back .... with interest.

    And no, California will never be able to borrow it's way out of debt.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 28, 2012 10:51 a.m.

    Mr. Anderson says:

    “This election, America faces a stark choice between the power of the free enterprise system and the stagnation that comes with over-dependence on government.” And that “Utah offers a preview of great things to come for the nation if we vote for the former.”

    The only thing close to a free enterprise system in Utah is the residential garage sales that my wife and I religiously attend for recreational purposes.

    There was a society where there was a free enterprise system in America. There were no lawyers, no doctors, no businessmen and a weak central government that allowed individuals to be their own masters and determiners of their own future. That society was known as that of the American Indians. Or as least as told to us by books, movies and museums.

    On a different continent societies were rigidly controlled by “governments” and there was little to none of free enterprise or individual freedom. Yet the accomplishments of those societies seemed to be boundless.

    So which societies according to books , movies and museums were stagnant and which though dependant on government were not?

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Oct. 28, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    I guess the federal government who is building a billion project at camp williams and pays a living wage has nothing to do with Utahs low unemployment.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 28, 2012 12:05 a.m.

    Does providing a qualified workforce require education spending? If so, Utah could be in trouble.