Published: Friday, Oct. 26 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
Nice letter Nate. You are so right to point to the partisan nature of
everything that we do these days as the primary reason for our gridlock. I put
most of the blame on the citizens, including myself. We claim to want solutions
- even bipartisan solutions - but we allow the media to shirk their
responsibility to inform us with facts and, instead, choose to support their
sensationailzing of every issue that comes forward. They are not looking for
truth as much as they are looking for a story that will sell papers or gain TV
viewers, just like the reality TV shows that support those "news"
channels and the corporations that own them. It is a sad reality that
regardless of which political philosophy is espoused by a a channel (ie. MSNBC
on one side and Fox on the others, and most of the others somewhere in between)
all of them have corporate oweners who want profits above all else.Let's take the time to actually seek out and study the candiadtes
positions and urge them to seek bipartisan solutions rather that encouraging
them to stand firm on the partisan positions we support...for the good of nation
An excellent letter. And an excellent comment by ECR.
ECR, old man, I think we all agree on this one.
I'd like to find out about candidate Mia Love. Unfortunately, all I know is
from her worthless ads. Has anyone actually visited her website? It's
pathetic. Under the tab, "issues" she doesn't list any ideas or
plans. Literally, it's a few paragraphs of old repub talking points.
Nothing specific. How are we supposed to learn about her and what
she plans to do if she doesn't say anything?
Mav, that's the whole idea not only of Mia's campaign, but
Mitt's, Bishop's, Hatch's and all the other GOPers. Go to any of
their websites and there's nothing but fluff.
To "Nathan Shapiro" unfortunately you, and so many liberals are wrong.
Bipartisan legislatures do not create changes most everybody wants. Any
legislature will create changes that most people want, assuming that the people
elected do a reasonable job representing their electorates.All you
and the other liberals here are whining about is the simple fact that you are a
minority in Utah, and want more power in the state government.I am
all for a bipartisan Congress, but not because of any change they can enact, but
because they get into so much gridlock that they can't change anything.
Historically, the stock market has done best when congress is not controlled by
any one party.
This letter states good reasons to vote for replacing the overwhelming majority
held by Republicans in the Utah State Legislature.
Old man, maverick, I thought this was one you'd play nice on. Thanks
for once again showing the intolerance and hatred of the left.
@lost in dc try putting the over generalizations on hold and reading
redshirts (and your own for that matter) comment before you blame the
"left" hatred is not a left or right issue its an issue of those that do
not have a valid argument to make making over generalizations.
Old Man-Fluff like "hope and change"? Well the GOP's
saw that it was successful for Obama in '08, so why not try it?Besides, all substance is instantly attacked, and since the campaigns are all
about the negatives of the other candidate, there is not point in giving the
opponent ammo.What do you think of the fluff statement of Matheson,
"eliminate wasteful government spending"? He has been singing that
campaign slogan for many elections. I have yet to hear of anything he thinks is
wasteful. So yeah, they are pretty much all full of fluff. Until we,
as voters, demand and vote for real ideas, all we will get is fluff.
Tolstoy,"ECR, old man, I think we all agree on this one." is
hateful? really!?? Please explain how.the thread started with
people, old man included, saying we need to try to work together more. I
agreed. That is hateful?then maverick goes off on Mia Love, who was
not even a topic of the conversation and old man joins in on ALL repubs. By
pointing out their intolerance I'm overgeneralizing?Please tell
me where in this thread I am blaming the left for anything. Who is over
generalizing now?Thanks for adding additional evidence to the
intolerance and hate fo the left.
@lost in Dc evidence of your over generalization. "Thanks for once
again showing the intolerance and hatred of the left." you seem to forget
everyone can see your previous posts. I did not claim that the two posters you
went after did not make derogatory comments, I was making the point that this
type of behavior has nothing to do with political affiliation but rather the
lack of a valid argument and that it is not isolated to only the "left"
or for that matter the "right."
How is asking for Mia Love to provide her ideas, plans, etc on her website
intolerant or hateful? Jim Matheson does. Why shouldn't Mia?
Tolstoy,thanks maverick and old man, for showing how hateful and
intolerant many on the left can be.better?
LostCloser but to bad you fail to see the hate in your own eye
@lost DChow about how" intolerant many can be?" is it really that
difficult to let go of your biases?
Get rid of the Tea party and it may work.
My bet is that Nate is a Democrat and he's blaming Republicans for not
being bi-partisan. Let's look that the current record. We have a House of
Representatives that have passed several budgets over the last 2 years. We have
a Senate, run by a Democrat that does not even consider them. How bi-partisan
is that? We also have a President that governs by executive order, and by the
way, hasn't proposed a new federal budget in three years. How bi-partisan
is that. The Dems version of bi-partisanship is to steamroll the Republicans.
They want their own way and if they can't have it, they consider nothing.
How bi-partisan was the passing of Obamacare? Would some Republican input into
that bad piece of legislation moderated it and made it actually acceptable to
the American people? Most likely.
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