Comments about ‘Letter: Romney's binder, only 25 percent of his staff were women’

Return to article »

Published: Monday, Oct. 22 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
J Thompson
SPRINGVILLE, UT

How many of his staff were women when he took office? Was there a change? Did he actively try to find qualified women? Did he succeed?

How many women hold high office in Obama's "staff"? How many cabinet members are women? How many woman Generals or women Admirals has he appointed? In the crisis photos that were shown around the world when he "got" bin Laden, how many women were in that photo? I remember seeing Ms. Clinton. How many others?

Of course, any honest person would admit that Romney actively tried to change things and he succeeded. He changed the make-up of his staff. He hired women. More women worked for him than had worked for the Democrat who held that office before Mitt.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

This is such a crock.

How many of the applicants were women? Who was the most qualified?

Is this a free economy or must there be quotas in employment? Government takeovers of the motor industry? Sales taxes on necessities? Where is there a free economy? Hong Kong perhaps. Shame.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Wow, imagine that. Mitt says one thing while in reality the exact opposite was the case.

Mitt will just about anything to become elected.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

To answer some of J Thompson's really quite excellent questions:
There were no women in management positions at Bain Capital.
In Massachusetts, prior to Romney becoming governor, there were eleven women in cabinet level positions. Under Romney, there were ten. His hires came after he was pressured by MassGap, a non-partisan women's organization. That's where the 'binders' came from; he didn't request them, they pressured him.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Well, we know the real story was not that Romney pushed the issue of hiring more women but that the pressure came from outside groups. The Bain picture is still fresh in my mind--the one with Romney and his co-horts with money coming out of their pockets...

Kent C. DeForrest
Provo, UT

The point of this letter, of course, is that Romney's claim that he went out searching for qualified women is false, as is so much that comes from his mouth. As Eric pointed out, MassGap came to him with those binders.

But what I really want to know is how Romney fit all those women in binders. That's quite a trick.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

I'm still waiting to see what's his agenda binders. The conservative LA Times nailed it.

Jl
Sandy, UT

Romney's binders were handed to him and he was strong armed to even open them.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

The Obama campaign has degenerated to this?

The fact that the professional victim class is whining about "binders" merely illustrates how vapid and small this far left-wing class/gender/race warfare administration has become

Mr. Bean
Ogden, UT

Suppose Romney woulda said, 'loose leaf folder?' Think of how that coulda been skewed into belittling women.

wrz
Ogden, UT

@Gildas:

"Is this a free economy or must there be quotas in employment?"

If a candidate wants to get elected, he/she's gotta appeal to their constituency. And more than half of the constituency is female.

@The Real Maverick:

"Mitt will just about anything to become elected."

Would you recommend that he do everything to not get elected?

@Kent C. DeForrest:

"But what I really want to know is how Romney fit all those women in binders."

He used extra large ones.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@J Thompson
"How many of his staff were women when he took office? Was there a change?"

I think it started out at around 42%, which at the time I assume verifies Romney's claim of it being the highest percentage in the nation. Later on in his term appointments were overwhelmingly men which drove it down to 25% when he left.

"How many women hold high office in Obama's "staff"? How many cabinet members are women? "

Currently 5/15 (State: Hillary Clinton, Labor: Hilda Solis, Commerce: Rebecca Blank, HHS: Kathleen Sebelius, Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano).

3/8 cabinet level officers (Ambassador to UN: Susan Rice, EPA Administrator: Lisa Jackson, Administer of Small Business Administration: Karen Mills).

"How many woman Generals or women Admirals has he appointed? "

No idea, but is it even possible to have women get that high when they aren't allowed in combat roles (something democrats are inclined to change)?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

How did the Dnews miss that article about Utah being third worse in the nation for equal pay for women...69 cents for every dollar for the same job. No wonder Mitt has such a fan base here, where women aren't worth as much as men.

My ex works for a former Utah Legislator who told her after taking over the former acct's job that he couldn't pay her as much because the men that work there have family and well they're men.

He is another small minded leader in Utah.

wrz
Ogden, UT

@Happy Valley Heretic:

"My ex works for a former Utah Legislator who told her after taking over the former acct's job that he couldn't pay her as much because the men that work there have family and well they're men."

Your ex likely didn't make as much as the former employee in the same job because your ex just started in the job. Generally, pay increases the longer you're in a job. It's ludicrous to expect equal pay when just starting.

The reason men are paid more on average across the nation is because women take time off for child birth, to raise families, relocate for hubby's new job, etc. Thus, men are on the job longer, on average. Pay differentials for the same work is generally attributed to length of time on the job.

It's not rocket science.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

President Barack Obama has put 72 women on the federal bench -- the most ever appointed by a president in one term.

When Obama was sworn into office experts said his cabinet was the most diverse in history. It had seven women and nine racial and ethnic minorities among its 21 members — and only eight white men.

Bill Clinton had five women and six minorities in a first Cabinet that he said "looks like America" — one more in each category than George W. Bush had.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

WRZ your wrong she had more experience than the person she replaced and continued to do her former job too.
But I see your on the same page with the republicans "A woman's place is pregnant and at home or following her man."
Sad in this century.

Mr. Bean
Ogden, UT

@Happy Valley Heretic:

"...69 cents for every dollar for the same job."

Women in Utah are taught to stay home and raise families... Accordingly, they don't have the time on a job in the workplace that their male counter parts do... who's prime job it is to bring home the bacon.

Employees get paid more for staying on the job longer. And it's lest costly for the employer such as for training new employees, etc.

As wrz said, it's not rocket science.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@CI
funny thing is it seems the Romney supporters are the ones running around complaining that he is a victim at every turn, maybe this is why he can claim he cares about those he called professional victims, according to his supporters he is the biggest victim in the country.

Phranc
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@CI
How is it that you of all people could be claiming that others like to play the victim role?

RAB
Bountiful, UT

There is no proof of any of the garbage being spewed on this discussion board. Those who hate Romney are far to quick to believe any unverified claim that paints him as a liar. Those who like Romney are quick to believe whatever he says.

The reality is, Romney doesn't care who takes a job as long as they are qualified. Any other attitude is simply sexist.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments