The binder aso contained military horses, bayonets and mothballed battleships.
WRZ,If what you say is true then the former legislator is in violation of
Anti-discrimanation laws. so my question is "What did she do?"Like most people, she probably did nothing. therefore the problem never gets
fixed.Second, I would like see some truth about Romeny hiring of
women. When I search about the subject, every one of the list was by left
leaning media sources....hmmmm could it be that they skewed their information?
"Currently in the Obama administration, his staff pays women 18% less than
men. That is after Obama himself pushed and signed into law a bill that requires
equal pay for equal work. Obama does not do that,"--------Does he pay women cabinent members less than the men? No. In fact, he
pays them equally, just as he does with every job. There are more women in
lesser paying jobs in the White House, but that does not mean he is breaking the
law or even being hypocritical.Do you understand the difference?
Wow, it is amazing to see the liberals whine about Romney seeking qualified
women to work on his staff. If he only found enough to fill 25% of his staff,
how do you know that there were more qualified people? Just because the
previous guy may have had more unqualified people is not justification.Next, why don't you liberals look at your own leader? Currently in the
Obama administration, his staff pays women 18% less than men. That is after
Obama himself pushed and signed into law a bill that requires equal pay for
equal work. Obama does not do that, yet you liberals ignore that simple fact.
See Washington Times article "Obama's record on paying women White
House aides not stellar."
@Tolstoyyes - Those stuck on the victim triangle rarely see that
they have moved from victim to perpetratorLeftists, who base their
power structure on claiming aggrieved status, have been reduced to complaining
about binders as their source of oppression (i.e rationalization for
perpetration)I am sure it is annoying for you to have someone recognize
the game (and you will do the only thing you can do - claim to be a victim of
someone noticing the game)Phranc"How is it that you of all
people could be claiming that others like to play the victim role?"It makes me feel good mirroring it back for you to see - Even though I
realize you are are blind
@RABSo let me summarize your post "Everyone else is wrong and have no
proof to support their claims, I am right and do not need to provide any proof
of mine." does that pretty much cover it?
Oh, how easily people get distracted with these side shows. Meanwhile, six
trillion dollars was added to the debt the past four years, millions more on
welfare, no real change in the extremely high unemployment, gas prices doubling,
and median wages dropping. Where is the criticism of that or is that okay with
There is no proof of any of the garbage being spewed on this discussion board.
Those who hate Romney are far to quick to believe any unverified claim that
paints him as a liar. Those who like Romney are quick to believe whatever he
says. The reality is, Romney doesn't care who takes a job as
long as they are qualified. Any other attitude is simply sexist.
@CIHow is it that you of all people could be claiming that others like to
play the victim role?
@CIfunny thing is it seems the Romney supporters are the ones running
around complaining that he is a victim at every turn, maybe this is why he can
claim he cares about those he called professional victims, according to his
supporters he is the biggest victim in the country.
@Happy Valley Heretic:"...69 cents for every dollar for the same
job."Women in Utah are taught to stay home and raise families...
Accordingly, they don't have the time on a job in the workplace that their
male counter parts do... who's prime job it is to bring home the bacon.Employees get paid more for staying on the job longer. And it's
lest costly for the employer such as for training new employees, etc.As wrz said, it's not rocket science.
WRZ your wrong she had more experience than the person she replaced and
continued to do her former job too.But I see your on the same page with
the republicans "A woman's place is pregnant and at home or following
her man."Sad in this century.
President Barack Obama has put 72 women on the federal bench -- the most ever
appointed by a president in one term. When Obama was sworn into
office experts said his cabinet was the most diverse in history. It had seven
women and nine racial and ethnic minorities among its 21 members — and
only eight white men.Bill Clinton had five women and six minorities
in a first Cabinet that he said "looks like America" — one more in
each category than George W. Bush had.
@Happy Valley Heretic:"My ex works for a former Utah Legislator
who told her after taking over the former acct's job that he couldn't
pay her as much because the men that work there have family and well
they're men."Your ex likely didn't make as much as the
former employee in the same job because your ex just started in the job.
Generally, pay increases the longer you're in a job. It's ludicrous
to expect equal pay when just starting.The reason men are paid more
on average across the nation is because women take time off for child birth, to
raise families, relocate for hubby's new job, etc. Thus, men are on the
job longer, on average. Pay differentials for the same work is generally
attributed to length of time on the job.It's not rocket
How did the Dnews miss that article about Utah being third worse in the nation
for equal pay for women...69 cents for every dollar for the same job. No wonder
Mitt has such a fan base here, where women aren't worth as much as men.My ex works for a former Utah Legislator who told her after taking over
the former acct's job that he couldn't pay her as much because the men
that work there have family and well they're men. He is another
small minded leader in Utah.
@J Thompson"How many of his staff were women when he took office? Was
there a change?"I think it started out at around 42%, which at
the time I assume verifies Romney's claim of it being the highest
percentage in the nation. Later on in his term appointments were overwhelmingly
men which drove it down to 25% when he left."How many women hold
high office in Obama's "staff"? How many cabinet members are women?
"Currently 5/15 (State: Hillary Clinton, Labor: Hilda Solis,
Commerce: Rebecca Blank, HHS: Kathleen Sebelius, Homeland Security: Janet
Napolitano). 3/8 cabinet level officers (Ambassador to UN: Susan
Rice, EPA Administrator: Lisa Jackson, Administer of Small Business
Administration: Karen Mills)."How many woman Generals or women
Admirals has he appointed? "No idea, but is it even possible to
have women get that high when they aren't allowed in combat roles
(something democrats are inclined to change)?
@Gildas:"Is this a free economy or must there be quotas in
employment?"If a candidate wants to get elected, he/she's
gotta appeal to their constituency. And more than half of the constituency is
female.@The Real Maverick:"Mitt will just about
anything to become elected."Would you recommend that he do
everything to not get elected?@Kent C. DeForrest:"But what I really want to know is how Romney fit all those women in
binders."He used extra large ones.
Suppose Romney woulda said, 'loose leaf folder?' Think of how that
coulda been skewed into belittling women.
The Obama campaign has degenerated to this?The fact that the
professional victim class is whining about "binders" merely illustrates
how vapid and small this far left-wing class/gender/race warfare administration
Romney's binders were handed to him and he was strong armed to even open
I'm still waiting to see what's his agenda binders. The conservative
LA Times nailed it.
The point of this letter, of course, is that Romney's claim that he went
out searching for qualified women is false, as is so much that comes from his
mouth. As Eric pointed out, MassGap came to him with those binders.But what I really want to know is how Romney fit all those women in binders.
That's quite a trick.
Well, we know the real story was not that Romney pushed the issue of hiring
more women but that the pressure came from outside groups. The Bain picture is
still fresh in my mind--the one with Romney and his co-horts with money coming
out of their pockets...
To answer some of J Thompson's really quite excellent questions:There
were no women in management positions at Bain Capital.In Massachusetts,
prior to Romney becoming governor, there were eleven women in cabinet level
positions. Under Romney, there were ten. His hires came after he was pressured
by MassGap, a non-partisan women's organization. That's where the
'binders' came from; he didn't request them, they pressured him.
Wow, imagine that. Mitt says one thing while in reality the exact opposite was
the case. Mitt will just about anything to become elected.
This is such a crock. How many of the applicants were women? Who
was the most qualified?Is this a free economy or must there be
quotas in employment? Government takeovers of the motor industry? Sales taxes
on necessities? Where is there a free economy? Hong Kong perhaps. Shame.
How many of his staff were women when he took office? Was there a change? Did
he actively try to find qualified women? Did he succeed?How many
women hold high office in Obama's "staff"? How many cabinet
members are women? How many woman Generals or women Admirals has he appointed?
In the crisis photos that were shown around the world when he "got" bin
Laden, how many women were in that photo? I remember seeing Ms. Clinton. How
many others?Of course, any honest person would admit that Romney
actively tried to change things and he succeeded. He changed the make-up of his
staff. He hired women. More women worked for him than had worked for the
Democrat who held that office before Mitt.