Look, the real story is that Timpview admitted that they had 30 transfers into
their football program. That is the problem, screwing up the paperwork is the
incompetence and symptom of the problem. UHSAA has proven to be a joke, and
some very well articulated comments above mine talk about the injustice to the
teams that didn't break the rules. Also, just a side note, to have Rod
Zundel interviewing the East coach and crying for joy that East is getting
rewarded for cheating is a joke!!! Can all of you take a step back and see this
in it's clear light. High School sports should be about as pure and
exciting as "The Sandlot" portrayed it to be. We are prostituting our
ethics in a Win at ALL Costs approach to the great game of football. Someone
get the state of sports fixed in Utah, it obviously isn't the UHSAA!!
It sounds like the only schools that actually got punished were:Salem Hills and Springville: Since their football teams aren't as good
and because of a unfortunate schedule having played Timpview at the wrong time
of the season, were eliminated from the playoffs. I guess their
"rights" to play weren't important.Herriman--your
reward for winning your region is to play East.Logan--your reward is
to play Timpview.Cyprus--Never mind...Other winners
besides East: Well Box Elder probably gets to play Maple Mountain who is a much
weaker team than Orem.Mountain View--good news, you were lucky
enough to play Timpview with their illegal player--you get to go to state and
get to play East.Maple Mountain now gets a home game with Box Elder
instead of going to Logan.Can the UHSAA actually explain the logic
of all this? I am not getting it...
So let me get this straight, the two schools that got the most punished were
Springville and Salem Hills who got eliminated from their chance to compete for
a playoff chance because they were unlucky enough to play Timpview later in the
season.Then there is Herriman who by winning their region gets to
play East, who let's face it might still be the best team in the state.Then there is Box Elder who instead of playing Orem, a proven inferior
team to TImpview, now gets to play Timpview.Is there no wonder
people have lost faith in the UHSAA as a legitimate organization to protect the
integrity of high school athletics.What do East and get Timpview get
as result of breaking the rules, a slap on the wrist while four other schools
become collateral damage with two losing their right or chance to compete in the
tournament so East's could be restored. What about these kids whose
programs ACTUALLY did nothing wrong at all?Give me a break, what a
Decision is not fair especially for Timpview who is going through the exact same
motions right now and had to forfeit their own games. Leave it to the UHSAA to
uphold their own rule!
Uhsaa has no spineGuess Timpview should have had their coaches and
players there crying pulling at their heart strings....
How is Eric Mika different than the kid at East who attended a charter school.
Both lived in boundaries, went to a different high school (charter/private) then
wanted to return to their original high school.East has a great team
but for whatever reason they had administrators and coaches who did not follow
rules that they knew about. The precedence is set now that other school may
have the same argument. How is too that Timpview had to vacate
their wins? How does East get a free pass? Just doesn't make sense.
As a High School coach I do feel sympathy for the boys that ALMOST got punished.
But, the real story in this mess is what we learned from the Timpview Principal
Mckee. He said that they only messed up on 1 of the 30 football transfers they
had at TV. 30 Football Transfers. 30 Football Transfers. This is why Provo is
0-10 and high school sports are out of control. The pageant moms and dads are
allowing the "Win at all Costs" mentality to ruin the sport at it's
greatest level. High School sports were once so pure and magnificent. Now all
of the other schools like Orem are having to cheat also so that they can compete
with TV. I am sure West and Highland feel the same way up in SLC. The media
needs to pick up on this story and publicize it more that the tears of many
great athletes and coaches that got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
Everyone plays a region schedule to first make the playoffs, second to have a
higher seed.The reason the higher seeds matters is first for a home
game, second to play a lower seed in the first rounds to give yourself a better
chance to move deaper in the playoffs.By allowing Timpview and East
to remain in the playoffs but lower the playoff seed they get, it has just
changed everything in the playoffs for all the other teams. Instead of a true
#1's vs #4's, and #2's vs #3's. We now have all sorts of
other match ups. So all the work all the other teams put in to win the games
they did have all gone out the window.14 other 4A teams with about
50 plus varsity players each equals 700 plus players that are being punished for
following the rules.So instead of 100 plus players being hurt by the
5 players that should not have been playing 700 plus are being hurt by the UHSAA
so called punishment.Someone will win the playoffs, but no one will
know what would have happened because of those two schools.
Hey UHSAA can Snow Canyon Baseball have it's Region Title back from last
year? We said please.
What a joke.....UHSAA is allowing the Charter Schools to be an "eligibility
clearing house" to bypass the rules in place....East knows exactly what they
are doing when they are placing kids from other boundaries in these Charter
Schools so they can "hyrbernate for a year or two" and the UHSAA just
cleared the path for every school to do this....6k penalty is a cheap amount to
pay to build a "State Championship" caliber team.
Herriman tis is your reward for winning the coin flip...
This is a surpriseCertainly not consistent with some past
eligibility issues around the state
* 3 best teams for 4a.
Nice spine UHSAA. Doesn't matter, WX will come out on top! Oh yeah
Let's get it on!! GO WX GO CATS TAKE STATE!!
So let's get this straight:East, which EVERYONE agrees broke
rules, still gets into the playoffs, but their punishment is a 4th place
seed.This punishes another 1st place seed by making THEIR first game
against another 1st place team (East). So rather than having a first-round
against an easier opponent, so their kids can get out the jitters, get some
playoff experience before they move to the next round against a tougher
opponent, they get to play one of the top ranked teams in their
classification.UHSAA is, without doubt, one of the least logical or
credible organizations I can think of.
what i dont get is how they let east back in the playoffs and yet still had
timpview forfeit the 4 games because now u have the 3 best teams in the
state(arguably 4) on the same side of the bracket!
Well done East High boosters. It would be nice if the UHSAA would consistently
apply their rules. It would be even better if their rules weren't so lame.
The UHSAA are a bunch of hypocrites. By not applying the rules consistently
across the board they have opened up a can worms for the future. What a joke.
heck yea! as a timpview fan, im glad east gets to play in the playoffs. cant
figure out whos the best in the state if the best dont play! i now have a
renewed excitement for the 4a playoffs!