Dear Author and misguided commenters,A businessman needs someone to
work for him and a worker needs work. The businessman freely offers a wage.
The worker freely chooses whether to take it or not. This is called TRADE. It
is the hallmark of dealing with men in a free, peaceful society. But that is
not what you here advocate.No, you wish for men with guns (the
government) to dictate to the businessman whom he will hire (only those who are
"legal" and unemployed). You want the government to dictate the terms
of their trade (a minimum wage and maximum hours). And you wish to deputize
(conscript) the businessman to enforce really bad immigration law.Of
course all of this begins with your desire to violate another hallmark of living
free: to live WHERE you want. If someone wasn't born at proper GPS
coordinates, you would keep them out!The government's only
proper role in any of this is to ensure no one is forced into labor or forced to
accept terms of labor by fraud or violence. And on the border, the
government's only proper role is to keep criminals and the diseased out.
Take away any group of people, and you do free up their jobs assuming those who
are left are willing to fill them, however these people are no longer consumers
in our economy either, which means many jobs will disappear if they were to
leave.All in all, getting rid of people doesn't reduce
unemployment. It takes business hiring people to do that.
@Gildas:"Mitt Romney states that he will seek to enforce
"e-verify" upon rogue employers..."E-Verify is
worthless. It only effects employers with forty or more employers. This
eliminates alotta small businesses... including those who knowingly skirt the
law by limiting employees to less than forty. Or, who subcontract workers
instead of hiring them.
Democrats and Republicans have done nothing effective nationally about illegal
immigration. Arizona did, om the state level and, apparently, their
unemployment rate was concurrently reduced substantially.Mitt Romney
states that he will seek to enforce "e-verify" upon rogue employers (an
awful lot of employers seem to be rogues and criminals in that regard). I hope
Romney, if elected, will be true to his promise and that, in so doing, he will
have the majority support of both houses of Congress. The measure would be very
popular with legal residents and citizens, long overdue, and would quickly get
the nation back to work.If not I wish the Utah State government
would stop giving Republicans a bad name by failing us in this important matter.
I expect there would be little need for paying out so many unemployment checks
if they acted decisively, pragmatically and without delay. They need to
support the people in general and not illegal employers.
Everytime they try to penalize the people that hire and profit from hiring
undocumented workers republicans shoot it down.They want to go back
to what doesn't work and has never worked instead of facing the problem.
Anyone who aids and abets an illegal immigrant is committing a felony against
federal laws and statutes. That would include businesses hiring illegals as
well as the Department of Homeland Security leaders and employees... who are
issuing those 2 year amnesties authorized be Presidential Executive Order. Keep
that in mind.
Fleeing a place where you live with the constant threat of death has nothing to
do with honesty or dishonesty. Many Mexicans would much rather live with the
constant threat of arrest and deportation. If Mexicans were from almost any
other country we would allow them to come here as refugees.(approx. 65,000
deaths in drug war). Conservative Romney is for e-verify, a legality check for
anyone hired.Pres.Obama's answer was to deport twice as many people as
Pres. Bush. Nothing will be effective if we do not secure the border and re-haul
the federal immigration system.
Not only do they take jobs but they lower all wages across the board. Anchor
children are the keys to entitlements. They qualify because of the anchor
children and the cheap wages. The entitlements are paid by us the tax payer, the
hospital bills when they get hurt on the job are paid for the taxpayer. No
unemployment tax is paid by the employer, no SSN taxes but if the illegal alien
gets an ITN number they get large tax returns without putting anything into the
system. Those that hire illegal aliens are cheating the system and are directly
responsible for our failure to not be able to afford homes, feed and clothe our
children and live the American Dream. Why Utah allows this to happen is beyond
comprehension. This has nothing to do with compassion for the Illegal Alien but
compassion is the excuse to pocket cash. Its time they are held accountable.
Fines and jail time should be administered to those that lie, cheat and destroy
the USA for something they can't take with them when they die.
Blah, blah, blah.We are either honest or we are dishonest. If we
wait for the President to act, we prove that we are dishonest. If we excuse
ourselves because of the President, we are not only dishonest, but we are
disreputable. Illegal is illegal. It doesn't matter whether we
hire them or look the other way when they enter our Country. Either act shows
that we are dishonest, just as dishonest as those who enter illegally.
This is my #1 problem with all the talk about illegal immigration. Hardly anyone is willing to recognize the #1 problem... Businesses who hire
illegally. We could deport all illegals today. But they'd all
be back tomorrow because businesses don't want to hire legal
The root of the problem is poverty and lack of opportunity in their home
countries. They certainly don't want to leave their families behind and
live with the constant threat of arrest and deportation.If the US went to
walmart to purchase items made in Mexican factories instead of Chinese
factories, there wouldn't be nearly as many immigrants here working.
So why does our legislature and Congress oppose so vehemently all proposals to
slap business owners who hire illegals with some heavy-duty fines and
penalties?I think I know the reason.Could it have
something to do with PROFIT?And could the CONSERVATIVE lawmakers who
oppose such penalties, and who demonize those who support such penalties as
liberals, really be the root of the problem?After all, what is
REALLY most important? Preserving jobs for American citizens or the bottom line
of their corporate and small business contributors?
Native and legal U.S. workers suffer along with the undocumented workers from
our outdated, under-enforced immigration system. U.S. workers need the jobs and
at fair pay. Undocumented workers, many escaping the mass murder and the
violence of the drug wars, would not be exploited so easily. The US government
could track those who are here easier if undocumented workers could come out of
the shadows. Wages likely would go up. A revamped and less complicated
immigration progress could do this. Rights of US citizens as well as the basic
human rights of the undocumented could be restored.
Don't forget sir that the President has exported more illegals than Bush
did. It was a point of contention every time the President spoke to an Hispanic
group. By the way this is a fact and a specific accomplishment..has Romney told
you how he is going to enforce the laws and make it so miserable on the
immigrants and their families that they "self deport".
To eliminate a problem you must get to the root. Do you really think Romney is
going to penalize his base for illegally hiring? If you do, I have some beach
front property next to the Great Salt Lake to sell you.