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Clinton: I'm responsible for consulate security

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 17, 2012 4:19 p.m.

    FT,

    George Bush is the worse president since Calvin Coolidge?

    Seems the democrats are claiming to have the worse with Obama. Is this bragging rights?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 17, 2012 3:34 p.m.

    If Obama would attend some of his staff meetings, maybe he'd know what's going on.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    I can't believe this administration paid $70,000 to put the apology to the Pakistani people with implied statements from the President, Secretary of State and Ambassador of the United States to the United Nations that it was a video about a religion that caused the incident. As I stated before, this is a responsibility a President cannot pass to the Secretary of State. She knows what happens when you lie and to state there is a problem with the Intelligence corps, the best and most respected group of civilians and military throughout the world, is a shame for our country. This was a political made up story and the President was aloof about it as he went to the United Nations, the View, other shows and in the Rose Garden. We cannot have him become elected for another 4 years. Away from the economy, environment, foreign relations and a myriad of other events he will be involved in, we cannot have a person we cannot trust.

    Looking at his demeanor last night, that alone was a factor in the debate that impacts on Mrs. Clinton's statement. Our enemies must be rejoicing at his actions/words last night.

  • Joe Moe Logan, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:58 p.m.

    The "falling on her sword" thing is overplayed. Notice how the night before the debate, she held a press conference to take the blame and explicitly excuse Obama. Then, during the debate, Obama explicitly says the buck stops with him and he bears responsibility. Frankly, they are trying to have their cake and eat it, too. Obama knew he couldn't come on national TV and say "it's not MY fault!" But Clinton gave him as much cover as was possible. She's a team player, you can't doubt that. But she's not dead politically, you can count on that.

    She and Barrack, with their separate statments, made the only reasonable move left to them once the truth was clear to everyone about what happened: they each took the blame so that neither takes the blame (in a convoluted sense......and what is politics if not convoluted?)

  • Alfred Ogden, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    @LetsDebate:

    "The entire world knew within 24 hours that the violence in Benghazi was a planned terrorist attack."

    The president and his inept administration were simply trying to obscure the fact that the world is full of terrorists... and that the lion's share of terrorists are directly related to the religion of his ancestry on his father's and step father's side. It's not rocket science.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:39 p.m.

    "I'm responsible for consulate security"

    In deed you (Hillary) are responsible, and for that you aughta be fired. But, alas, the President is who's ultimately responsible. He's the president. He's the Commander in Chief. We'll fire him this November... for this and a myriad of other fiascoes and broken promises during his term.

    Nice try Hillary, to divert attention from the King as he struggles to get reelected.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:54 p.m.

    Taking one for the team, Madam Secretary? It wasn't just your gaff, it was the president's lies in an attempt to cover up. Ask Richard Nixon if lying is the best approach to a cover up.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:43 p.m.

    Unlike Eric Holder, Clinton falls on her sword for Barrack.

    It's too late: all three need to go!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 16, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    FT,

    " It took Clinton 8 years to clean up the mess from Regan/Bush "

    * Wow! Where do you think North Korea and Iran got its nuclear technology from? Check out the record from 1994.

    * NAFTA is a major cause for today's mess.--Bill Clinton wasn't much better then Obama.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 4:06 p.m.

    Ah, Hillary falling on the sword for BO, how touching.

    Wasn’t it Mike Dukakis that said a fish rots from the head down?

    Mark B,
    Guess what, bush isn’t president. Bush had nothing to do with the deaths in Benghazi. Thanks for playing, though.

    Letsdebate,
    You’re right about Hillary’s ambitions; this is just further evidence of dem hubris.

    FT,
    Worst president since and before Coolidge? – BO! just edging out Jimmy Carter.

    The failure to which Rifleman is referring is the failure to bolster security, which occurred on BO’s watch, the deaths were the natural result.

    The failure to take OBL out the two or three times he had the chance happened on slick willy’s watch, 9/11 was the result. You’re confusing cause with effect.

    HVH such as??
    If BO had nothing to do with the failures that occurred during his misadministration, what HAS he been doing? Oh, yeah – playing golf, campaigning, lying, appearing on the View, campaigning, lobbying for the Olympics for Chicago, lying, campaigning, campaigning, campaigning…

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 16, 2012 4:02 p.m.

    Then take responsibility and quit to show us that you are serious.

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 3:11 p.m.

    There is an excellent column by Kathleen Parker in today's Washington Post which deals with this issue. She asks important questions and we expect real answers. What we don't need is the partisan hacks trying to politicize this issue.

    Unfortunately, these things happen will all administrations. There was 9/11 and the intelligence failure there. There was the bombing of the marine barracks in Lebanon during the Reagan years. What we don't need is a rush to judgement just because of the political season. With tempers running hot, judgement in severely impared. For something happening half-way around the world, it is difficult to get a real assessment of what is happening on the ground.

    So go read Kathleen Parker's column and take a deep breath and step back a moment.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 2:50 p.m.

    Rifleman said:
    "Blaming others for Obama's failures has become a habit the liberals can't break."

    But not nearly as often as the right blames Obama for things which he had absolutely nothing to do with!

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 2:08 p.m.

    Rifleman is right on. This happened under BO's watch and the buck stops at his desk. I've always said the same about 911. Bush/Chenney let this country down and should have been held accountable for that tragegy. That's what worries me about Romney and all his spineless flip flopping. His track record shows little to have us believe he'll be better.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2012 1:34 p.m.

    Re: Makid Kearns, UT
    "Why didn't Republicans in Congress care about embassy security when they created appropriation bills?"

    A real leader provides appropriate security for our embassies and other installations around the world when it is asked for. A loser blames someone else and then gets Hillary Clinton to fall on her sword when everything else fails.

    The Obama Administration knew from day one that this was a terrorist attack but tried to hide it by blaming it on an anti-Muslim video.

    Blaming others for Obama's failures has become a habit the liberals can't break.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    Joan Watson said: H Clinton first tried to blame an anti-muslim video when she of all people knew the facts.

    How could you and the righties let this happen in Libya?
    The republicons all new this was going to happen, I've read it for days, Mit knew exactly what happend 20 min after it was announced and blamed obama for pulling the trigger.

    Thousands are killed in the war for profit "Iraq," and not a blink.
    Republicans are total Hypocrites about foreign policy!

  • Makid Kearns, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 12:39 p.m.

    The better question to all this is:

    Why didn't Republicans in Congress care about embassy security when they created appropriation bills? Cutting $600 Million in 2 years for embassy security yet now stating that it isn't their fault.

    If security funds weren't cut, extra guards would have been able to be posted. While yes it is Clinton that runs the department, if there isn't enough money to go around, you have to pick and choose where to spend it.

    Chaffetz was proud of the fact that he cut funding for embassy security when interviewed on CNN. He stated he would vote to cut again even if he knew that another attack would happen. Then he goes on and blames Obama for the deaths. That is taking credit for the cuts but blaming others when they happen.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 12:32 p.m.

    Mark B is absolutely right but why keep arguing the point? Even Republicans agree Bush was the worst President since Calvin Coolidge. So, Democrats need to stop pointing this out. BO was handed a mess, just like Clinton was. It took Clinton 8 years to clean up the mess from Regan/Bush but BO may not get that long. Americans will give their vote to the person they feel is most qualified to clean up the mess. If you believe the DN blog it looks as if Willard will our new Commander in Chief!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 12:16 p.m.

    So, the logical next step would be for Obama to call for Hillary's immediate resignation. After all, four Americans are dead as a result of her error.
    Don't hold your breath. Obama needs the Clintons right now. Politics above leadership.

  • LetsDebate PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:32 a.m.

    The entire world knew within 24 hours that the violence in Benghazi was a planned terrorist attack. If the "best intelligence" the Administration was given up to 10 days later pointed to a disorganized mob that was mad about a video and got out of control, then our intelligence structure must be immediately dismantled and every leading officer fired, because that would represent stunning incompetence and denial of overwhelming evidence.

    Personally, I don't believe that our intelligence officers are that inept and blind. I do, however believe it's entirely possible for the Obama Administration to be dangerously naive about the risk of violence in Libya, and to be that narcissistic about their deluded perception of victory over terrorism, and foolish enough to think we would buy their lie that a video and a mob incited the violence, and arrogant enough to mock anyone who would challenge them on their highly amateurish cover-up.

    Also, considering Hillary's political ambitions, I'm shocked she would fall on her sword for Obama, and that Bill wouldn't stop her from doing it. This is potentially very damaging to her if she intends to run for President in the future.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:22 a.m.

    Mrs' Clinton's statement seems much more forthright than anything we EVER heard from Bush/Cheney concerning 9/11 even years after we know they were repeatedly warned. That debacle resulted in the deaths of some 3000 people, while what happened in Libya led to the sad deaths of four Americans. worf and Rifleman must have been very angry in 2001, but not enough to stop being total Republican loyalists - even after the attempts to blame Democrats all failed.

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    ...And if he "really didn't know", why not?

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:59 a.m.

    What did Obama know about the rising threat level in Benghazi, and when did he know it?

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:33 a.m.

    Someone has to fall on their sword for Obama and since they can't blame Bush Mrs. Bill Clinton has been chosen to take the fall.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:20 a.m.

    H Clinton first tried to blame an anti-muslim video when she of all people knew the facts. She should and must resign - and Pres. Obama should demand her resignation. Otherwise it will be treated as a 'mis-step' and "just another bump in the road."

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:04 a.m.

    It is to Clinton's credit that someone from this administration actually takes responsibility for anything.

    Obama's blame Bush-now-Romney antics are incredibly juvinile

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:03 a.m.

    It is to Clinton's credit that someone from this administration actually takes responsibility for anything.

    Obama's blame Bush-now-Romney antics are incredibly juvinile

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 16, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    Obama takes responsibility for nothing.