SammybyU is 0-2 against USC. They own you.byU is 3-7 against
UCLA. They own you.byU is 7-19 against ASU. They own you. BIG TIMEbyU is 2-1 against CAL. big woop.byU is 3-3 against OR. big woop.byU is 5-6 against OSU. They own you.byU is 4-3 against WA. big woop.byU is 0-2 against Stanford. They own youbyU is 3-1 against WSU. Big
whoop.byU is 9-13-1 against AZ. They own you.byU is 2-8-1 against
CU. They own you. BIG TIMEThat was fun.
2BCSWinsYou should know the answer to your question but here it
is... BYU vs Utah is not relevant to this discussion between me and
WacPaddledMyUtes. So if you want to thump your chest about the
leather helmet days go ahead. No one cares, anything can happen at these games.
USU beat you a few weeks ago, BYU beats USU. Moving on...This
discussion was about why BYU is shying away from Colorado after BYU is 3-8-1
against them. A total out and out fabrication.BYU plays any team,
any time it can be worked out. Why WacPaddledMyUtes would bring up such a dumb
idea beyond comprehension. Laughable as I kindly said.So the fact
remains that 8 out of 11 teams in the PAC12 thump the Utes more times than not.
Washington every time, and even the so called bottom dweller Colorado has a nice
edge against the Utes. 0-3 is about right for Ute averages against
PAC opponents.Would a chart or picture make this easier to
@SammyG....Since you are listing the Utes all time record against other teams.
Will you please post where the Utah and BYU series is at for us?As
far as this game Reily continues to make critical mistakes. However I think it
was the highly overrated defense that cost the cougies this game. Oregon St. top
10 however I think we all know they will end nowhere near that come the end of
the year. Cougies had them at home with back up QB, back up RB and were still
lit up. All we heard before the game was how this was the greatest cougie
defense ever. It may be the best cougie D ever but was definitley overrated for
just how good. Vanoy and 47 make that D what it is without those two on the
feild Oregon St scores 70+.One poster mentioned this already just
want to agree. The cheap shot by Olgatree on the back up QB was un-called for.
IMO he should be suspended pretty heavily for this once reviewed by the NCAA.
There is no place in football for taking cheap shots like this and risking bad
injuries to other players.
@ BYU fans making excuses: OSU's QB is a back-up, playing in his first
career start, and you could not put any pressure on him. Player of the game,
Oregon State is a top ten team and they showed it Saturday afternoon. BYU played
a goodgame both offensively and defensively. The speed and defense of OSU
was enough to overcome a blackout & enthusiastic capacity crowd. BYU was
ready to play smashmouth football.Brandon Doman's offense and Bronco
Mendenhall's defense kept it close going into the 4th quarter.Then a better
team Oregon State prevailed on a pick six and stout defense the margin of error
for BYU was just too slim. Next up another top ten team Notre Dame.
WacPaddledMyUtesReally? BYU shying away from Colorado. Typical Ute
fan making stuff up to feel better about himself and his miserable team.Utes are not holding much of advantage over BYU when it comes to
Colorado. So I went a little further and dug deep to get these PAC12 records for
you.Utah is 24-31-3 against the Buffs. They own you, in fact they
curb stomped you last year denying the Utes a division title and a shot at the
conference title.Utah is 3-8 against USC. They own you.Utah is
2-9 against UCLA. They own you.Utah is 6-18 against ASU. They own you.Utah is 3-5 against CAL. They own you.Utah is 8-18 against OR. They own
you.Utah is 6-9-1 against OSU. They own you.Utah is 0-7 against WA.
They own you... big time.Utah is 2-2 against Stanford.Utah is 6-5
against WSU. Big whoop.Utah is 20-15-2 against AZ. Big whoop.Historically 0-3 right now should be considered par for the Utes in their
mighty conference.BYU shying away from Colorado... laughable.
The problems are two fold.One.BYU has had very bad
O-line coaching now for over two years. The QB has no time to go through his
reads. Weber has to go.Two. NO offensive scheme that can
seriously move the ball. Nor a QB that effectively passes the ball. As a result
BYU is easy to defend.short passes and even shorter runs does not
get the job done.Here is the real tale of the tape:Oregon 6 plays 75 yards to score a TD.BYU 12 plays and 30 yards.If BYU can not average atleast 12 yards a pass completion then the
offense struggles. (And horrible at under 10)BYU needs a stronger
armed QB and better Oline and offensive scheme that takes advantage of the
players BYU can recruit.IN other words, the riley nelson experiment
should be over, and doman should be out.BYU isn't running
team,BYU isn't an option team. They are a passing team.As Coach Edwards knew, success will only come with a sophisticated
passing game with good experienced players, not a bad o-line, weak-armed QB and
disheartened pass-catchers and poor OC.
Correction.BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado!OUCH!OUCH!OUCH!
kcougfanCedar Hills, UTHey Bleed Crimson...when Colorado beats you
again this year are you still going to make your bold posts...??? Considering
you beat us by 3 and we handed you turnovers...what does that say for your
mighty crimson clad utes...???__________________Why is
BYU afraid to schedule Colorado?There seems to be plenty of room on future
schedules for the kitty cats.Fact of the matter is that BYU is
afraid to schedule the Buffs.Colorado is 3-8-1 all time against BYU.OUCH!
Hey Byu?? Try worrying about playing solid football before pulling out new black
uni's and painting the end zone black. Just stick to blue and white, you
know tradition?? and try putting a team on the field that can compete with
anyone outside of cupcake city please.
Article should read, "BYU falls victim to Riley Nelson at QB"!
I really would like to get some information on a low tackle on OSU"s
quarterback by a BYU linebacker. If it was an attempt to injure the player then
I hope BYU loses all of its games. It has no place at BYU. A good Mormon
kid playing at another school, outside of Utah, seems to do the Church a l0t of
good. And a dirty player for BYU has the opposite effect.
Bleed Crimson"BYU can beat all the cupcakes on their schedule
and lose to all the good teams."At least BYU doesn't LOSE
to the cupcakes on their schedule like the Utes - see Colorado.btw,
the Utes are now 4-8 since joining PAC, and the Utes haven't beaten a
single PAC team with a winning record. Your four PAC wins have come against:Ore St(3-9)Arizona(4-8)UCLA(6-8)Wash St(4-8)Combined record (17-33). So who exactly have U beaten since joining the PAC
that you would consider "good"?As they say, people who live
in glass houses...
@WAYNE ROUT,all i have ever seen you do is mean mouth the cougars and Riley
Nelson, since you seem to be such an authority on football and you think you
can do any better i suggest that you put your money where your mouth is and
try out,but i highly doubt if you could do any better,so until you can prove
otherwise i think you need to be quiet,people who are true cougar supporters
are getting tired of your know it all attitude,first its the team then the coach
and now its Riley it just shows how ignorant of the cougars you really are
and we as fans would be better served if you just supported the UTES because
you surely are not a Cougar fan
Once again we just beat ourselves and the refs made us loose.
I thought it was a great game. Riley did a fine job and would have been better
with a few less dropped passes. I even liked the play calling. But a tough day
for the defense. Hated that pass interference call near the end. Very
disheartening and we were in it until then.Let's see an upset
of Notre Dame.
BYU's defense was so highly ranked because it hadn't actually played
anybody, Utah and Utah State included. A few weeks earlier it took everything
Utah State had to beat a mediocre Utah team who was also playing badly. It was
predictable that a good team would come in and pretty much run over BYU. This
wasn't a defensive collapse - it was just what to expect. Notre Dame will
do the same thing, and possibly Georgia Tech. The state of football in the State
of Utah is pretty disappointing, but I am glad to see Utah State improve on that
program, having over the weekend thoroughly thrashed a San Jose State team that
lost to Stanford by only 3 earlier in the season.So, then, go Jazz!
(I mean, what else have we got?)
@kcougfan considering they let you back in the game what does that say about
your horrible team????
Hey Bleed Crimson...when Colorado beats you again this year are you still going
to make your bold posts...??? Considering you beat us by 3 and we handed you
turnovers...what does that say for your mighty crimson clad utes...???
Y fans, stop the sugarcoating please. Let's face the truth, BYU is
pathetic. Starting with the coaches (Doman HAS to go) and the quarterback. I
feel for some good players on the team but poorly coached. When did BYU start
becoming an option team? or the quarterback running the ball thirty percent of
the time? I see the word "Tradition" written on the field and everywhere
- what is BYU's football tradition? PASS, PASS and [they] came to PASS!
Please let's get back to that! Look at all the dominating teams in college
football now - they're all passing while BYU is trying to run the option.
Holmoe please let's get back to BYU's PASS TRADITION!! What puzzles
me is you recruit good tight ends and great receivers and yet you give the
quarterback the freedom in his running tendencies. Also, all major conferences
are slowly losing interest in BYU because of its lackluster performances.
Spokane Utesie depressingly lamented..."It's a sad state of
affairs; both BYU and Utah are average at best. Sad."Well as a
Cougar fan I'm not taking anti-depressants quite yet. I'm coping quite
well, thank you very much. BYU will win some more games as the offense showed
some improvement. The play calling seemed a little more varied.Yes,
we will have to endure the 'Oh Riley factor' but if the effect can be
mitigated we see some hope. Short passes and shuttle passes seem to do well.
Glad to see some success with these plays.As for your Utes... they
are now less than average. 4-9 appears to be trendsetting.
Bleed Crimson, please tell us how your beloved Utes' season is any better.
Are you mad that you couldn't beat one of the cupcakes BYU did? Yup, you
beat BYU, which despite all Ute fan's and Chris Hill etc. claims of your
being beyond the rivalry is obviously still the biggest game on your schedule.
Congrats on getting up for that one game each year and your awesome 4-9 record
in the PAC.
So BYU's defense gave up 35 points and the team is blaming it on things not
bouncing their way? More like unprepared yet again.It wasn't
so much that they lost - OSU is a top ten team, but it was the way that they
lost. This is the first time this season that BYU has faced a real passing
threat, and we all saw what happened. I think the defense is a bit overrated,
although the run D is legit. The game against ND next week isn't going to
Let's be real about the quarterback situation. Riley Nelson is not a good
passer so it's time to give Lark a chance like Hatch suggested. I was also
very surprised at how much time the other quarterback had in their pocket to
make passes. It was very disappointing to see that because I thought our
defense was better than that. Looks like this season is already shaping up to
be another same old same old...win the patsies and struggles against real
competition. I dream of the day when we can win consistently against tough
competition. Will it ever happen? Yes I'm excited to see tough opponents
in our future schedule but I fear it may only result in giving us a kind of
exposure we don't want nor need and give the haters more reasons to hurl
insults at us. Go Cougars! I'm still rooting hard for your
luck to change.......soon I hope!
BYU has nothing to feel badly about. They played a good game. OSU is simply a
better team and a better program. All the analysis in the world won't
change that. The better team won, which is the way it is supposed to be.
@Bleed CrimsonAlas! Utah's streak of 6 win seasons is on the
and utes going to become winless in pac12 - ask Chris B.
Goood to see Riley is back in form. Seven interceptable passes or was it 8, 2
fumbles or was it 3. There is no hope as long as this guy is playing.
Once again! BYU can beat all the cupcakes on their schedule and lose to all the
good teams. The Cougs proud "10 win season" streak is on the line.
I thought Riley did well. But look what Oregon State did with a pocket passer.
Lark got ripped off plain and simple. Make things right and give him a chance.
Help us feel good about being Cougar fans again.
It's a sad state of affairs; both BYU and Utah are average at best. Sad.