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Published: Monday, Oct. 8 2012 11:29 p.m. MDT

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rogerdpack2
Orem, UT

It will definitely help girls "waiting" for their missionary, since now they can serve, too. Awesome!

A Scientist
Provo, UT

I still don't understand why women have to be older than men to serve missions. That seems sexist, but nobody seems to care.

Why can't both men and women be treated equally and serve when they reach adulthood - 18 years old? What is the thinking?

Mayfair
City, Ut

A Scientist-- We thought it seemed like there could now be way more missionaries of both sexes who will be of similar age than previously.
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Not one of the boys we know will take the 18 option, as they all want some experience living away from home first, or for playing college sports first, so will do a year of college and will serve when they are around 19.

This will mean they are just the same age as the girls who take the early option.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

Mayfair,

That does not answer the question. It is still a sexist policy.

Ted H.
Midvale, UT

Scientist,

Sometimes I dont know all the reasons why LDS church leaders do what they do. But I'm ok with it. Curious what your comment would have been if the rule change would have been to 18 for both men and women? Would it have been a pat on the back for moving to equality from you to the Mormons or would you have found something else you you truly don't care about but complained about none-the-less just to vent your dislike of the Mormons? I think we know.

And due to that, I'm happy this bothers you. I'm happy the previous 21 and 19 year rule bothered you. I'm happy the new rule bothers you. I'm happy knowing that even if things were "equal" and 18 for all and you seem to wish, that you would still be bothered. I'm happy knowing it was general conference this weekend bothered you. I'm happy anything related to Mormons, Mitt Romney, Bush, Prop 8, BYU, or green jello bothers you.

When unhappy people are just looking for an axe to grind they'll find it. I'm happy you are so bothered.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

BYU and BYU Idaho will be the hardest hit. No more 18 year old boys for the most part. I still think many athletes will play one year and then leave for a mission since it allows them to establish themselves on the team before they leave. When you come back from a mission you are totally out of shape and if you are a QB or a pitcher (like me) it takes a full year back to get your arm back.The freshman wards at BYU will also be hit hard - no boys left just girls. I'm sure that there will have to be a major re-org of the entire student ward structure going forward.

IndependentLiberal
Salt Lake City, UT

OK, I am not LDS, but I can readily understand what impact this new policy can play in the lives of young LDS men and women. But, being a total Utah college sports junkie, from Utah State to Dixie, the impact on these young athletes will be tremendous. This could have a real impact on recruiting for out of state schools. Following closely! : )

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

In his announcement of the change, President Monson called missionary work "a priesthood duty" but added thet young women were not under the same "mandate." Obviously, age is not the only difference with regard to gender for missionary service.

Claudio
Springville, Ut

Ted does not represent all Mormons...we do not all take joy in the confusion, suffering and/or unhappiness of others.

Jeff
Temple City, CA

At "a scientist": Jeffrey R. Holland gave specifics on the new policy in a news conference after the general session. He said (and I paraphrase) that the Church's experience has shown that it is better to keep the males and females at different ages, and wisdom dictates that it's better for the girls to be older, thereby discouraging--if not eliminating--romance between male and female missionaries.

Ted H.
Midvale, UT

Claudio,

If you were familiar with scientist he/she just has an axe to grind against the LDS church. It's not out of curiousity they ask, but spite. To those people - I laugh they are so upset they find relatively insignificant news to them(as this new update won't impact scientist at all)as an avenue to spew their dribble. Carry on dribblers. I'll continue to laugh.

Ken
Sandy, UT

Scientist,

Surely you must think that obama is sexist too since he has't changed existing laws that say all men 18 and older must still register with the Selective Service yet women do not?

Please no hypocrisy.

Claudio
Springville, Ut

Ted,

I prefer the example of Christ to your justification for behavior that in the end, is no better than that you are attributing to Scientist.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

tr:IndependentLiberal

actually you are 100% correct. It will be very interesting to see what happens to recruiting in the state of Utah now. High school athletes have to consider that leaving for a mission out of high school may or may not be in their best interest. College coaches my be reluctant to offer scholarships to athletes they have never seen play and also understanding how most returned missionaries return completely out of shape (for obvious reasons).You may see less lds athletes getting 4 year scholarships now with college coaches electing to go with non-lds kids instead. It is hard to recruit a kid knowing you aren't going to see him actually play for 3 or 4 years (count 2 for the mission and at least 1 more for getting back in playing shape). Having played college baseball myself for UVU I would personally elect to play for one year before leaving for a mission because you at least are able to show your talent and your worth to your coaching staff before you leave.

Ted H.
Midvale, UT

claudio,

Let's just not confused "suffering and confusion" with "bitterness and hatred"

I am not happy at the suffering of others. I just laugh at childish behavior. A couple of weeks ago my 3 year old daugher had a temper tantrum that sounded like the world was coming to an end. The problem? My wife told her no to a second piece of cake. My wife tried explaining why 1 piece of cake a day was enough. My daughter was not interested and there could be no reasoning. There was kicking and screaming like we've rarely seen. Was my wife a terrible person for not caving to the "suffering and confusion" of my daughter?

I think not. We sort of just chuckled and thought her childish behavior was expected and it didn't keep us up all night. Similary, I"ll laugh and carry on when I see childish behavior from others, who wish to make people think their hatred and bitterness are suffering and confusion.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Jeff
"wisdom dictates that it's better for the girls to be older, thereby discouraging--if not eliminating--romance between male and female missionaries."

I hope that's just what you think about it rather than what the apostle said about it...

AZRods
Maricopa, AZ

Upon hearing the announcement and after the camara scanned the congregation, the look in the eyes of the young wormen that were there prompted me to say that there will be an explosion of new missionaries, especially among the young women.

Often times the wisdom of it all doesn't surface for years. But even in the life of the young women in this article, the opportunity is exactly what she wants.
Plus I think it will get these sister missionaries home sooner and at a younger age which I also think will fit better for education and marriage.

I continue to be puzzled at the comments of a few of the people on here.
There clearly is no desire to find anything positve in their comment.
And the best they can do is call it a sexist policy?

That, to me is a sure sign of a sad, lonely and empty life.

Perhaps an enthused sister missionary will knock on their door and give them a different outlook in life.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@Ken
"Surely you must think that obama is sexist too since he has't changed existing laws that say all men 18 and older must still register with the Selective Service yet women do not?"

Actually Democrats are the ones that try and change that but they don't nearly have the votes for it, nor is it really popular. Personally I support it. I like anything that makes Presidents less likely to throw us into stupid wars. ERA opponents decades ago cited that as a side effect that they pushed as a prime reason to oppose the ERA.

Daleycall
Mesa, AZ

When I served my mission in New England back in the 70's, there were areas where Elders had been working for years and years. Consequently, the area can become stale and there were times when the Mission President would "close" the area for a while. the hope was that when the area was reopened, new Elders would work the area with new attitudes. Now, instead of closing an area, the Mission President has the option of sending in Sister missionaries; the positive effect on the investigators and the Ward(s) is exciting. Elder Holland was correct; they are stunningly successful wherever they go. I expect to see many more young women entering the mission field.

Claudio
Springville, Ut

Ted, this will be my last comment on the thread.

Your analogy, while amusing, is not a good comparison. Nor did I ever suggest that you or anyone else "cave to suffering an confusion." From the sounds of it, your intention was a poorly articulated expression of tolerance. Good. Next time, just try to say what you mean rather than intentionally or unintentionally suggesting that you find pleasure in the grief of others.

And for the record, bitterness and hatred would certainly be considered "suffering" if you considered this as a Christian looking to truly serve his brother. It should bring you sorrow that someone is so controlled by hatred that they can't carry on a rational conversation, not joyful laughter.

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