Political rancor and divisiveness have put a stop to a lot of critical work in
Washington. A lot of that is voters' fault.Rather than
rewarding the politician who reaches across the aisle to create compromise and
consensus to get some good done for everyone, we punish them in favor of those
who are "champions of the party," who will never work with the other
side to get anything done. The mentality we have created is "my way or the
highway, consequences be hanged!"I read an article a couple
years ago that illustrates this.There is a Congressional lunchroom,
that used to be a very busy place. People from both parties would meet there,
discuss issues as colleagues and even friends, and informally work out solutions
that gave everyone something they wanted.That room now stands empty
most of the time. Politicians are afraid that if they show the appearance of
treating members of the other party as anything other than mortal enemies they
will be trounced upon by their own party.So, we have a Congress who
does exactly what we've trained them to do. Nothing substantive that
can't be rammed down our throats. Nice.
re:Salseroyes a 20% tax cut for all Americans. Mitt qualified that a
week ago and said that wealthy Americans would NOT receive that tax cut - so
does that bother you that the wealthy won't get the 20% tax cut? Middle
income Americans WILL get that 20% tax cut like you and me. Does that bother you
that we get more and the government gets less? And finally - yes there will be
less deductions available to wealthy Americans. Translation - wealthy Americans
are NOT going to get a tax cut HOWEVER and here is BEST part - wealthy Americans
are NOT going to get slammed with a tax INCREASE either because when that
happens guess what happens to the investment dollars from those wealthy folks -
IT DECREASES. Less investment means less business start ups, less business
expansion and of course LESS JOBS. Not that hard to figure out really. Mitt
knows capitalism and Mitt has faith in the private sector. Mitt tried to explain
capitalism to Barack during the debate such as when you give TAX BREAKS then
business has more money and they hire. More working Americans means MORE TAX
REVENUE. Again not that hard to understand.
patriot Cedar Hills, UTIn a statement at the Tri-City Christian
Academy in Chandler, AZ, Mitt Romney said, “I’m going to lower rates
across the board for all Americans by 20 percent.” This was reported by
ABC News February 22, 2012.Does saying "across the board"
exclude the wealthy? I think not. Continuing, Romney said, “And in order to limit any impact on the deficit – because I
don’t want to add to the deficit – and also in order to make sure
that we continue to have progressivity as we’ve had in the past in our
code, I’m going to limit the deductions and exemptions, particularly for
high income folks.”However, nothing specific is mentioned
about the limitations on deductions and exemptions which has been a sticking
point in all interviews with Romney. Conceivably, removing certain deductions
(i.e. home mortgage) could be a net tax increase for the middle class.Let's deal in facts and not silly insults and put-downs. There remain
many questions regarding the specifics of Romney's economic proposals.
Re: Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UTWhy can't Obama's liberal
cheerleaders be honest .... just once. James Carville, well know Democratic
strategist, admitted that Obama didn't bring his A-game, and that is being
generous.Obama bombed out, got his backsides kicked, and all his
supporters can do is try and blame Romney for his feeble attempt in the first
debate. Is Romney really that much better, or is Obama just that much worse?
re:SalseroHA! So you couldn't believe your ears huh? Honestly -
did you actually know anything about Mitt's tax plan before the debate that
actually came from Mitt? I am betting what you knew about Mitt was what the
Obama campaign had been preaching to you for the past year ... that Mitt is
going to tax the middle class, that Mitt is going to cut taxes for the rich, and
on and on .... Yes I think you were probably very surprised to find out that all
that left wing propaganda from team Obama was just a bunch of hooey. You see
Mitt said it twice - NO tax increase for the middle class and NO tax cut for the
rich. Now - tell me ONE TIME in the past year when Romney has said otherwise.
ONE! You can't name one and neither can team Obama. The reason? THERE
WASN'T ANY!!! The nice plastic bubble that team Obama created for Romney
was burst for all to see on national TV!! The best part was the clueless , angry
president without his teleprompter to tell him how to respond. That was
priceless!!!! Mitt doesn't need a teleprompter!
If Romney turns moderate to govern, he will be vilified and hung up by his
ankles, stoned, and left for bear bait. The wingnuts of his party, the same
people he promised that he was "severely conservative" and a faithful
Tea Party acolyte, will have him for supper. It is said that Republicans eat
their children rather than allow ideological contamination infect the body
politic. Sure. It is probably the only way to achieve the solutions
we need. And knowing that a Democratic president today will not be allowed to
have any success without controlling the House and having a super-majority in
the Senate (and maybe having a true swing vote on the Supreme Court), something
has to give. Although fiscal conservatives view social conservatives
and extremists as a bad rash, they recognize that the later have taken over the
Republican Party and they have to work with them (cater to them) if they want to
remain around. Otherwise the suddenly become RINOs and lose their coveted
positions at the ballot box. The extremist Right is like a tsunami
sweeping across the Republican Party, calling for an end to government and
sweeping aside our social covenent.
ute alumni Tengoku, UTObviously, what you saw and what I saw were
completely different. Juvenile insults aside, I didn't recognize Romney
and could not believe my ears with what he said. It was almost like he was
selling me one of his Dad's old Ramblers and saying it was better that a
2012 Lexus.He had that salesman gift of looking you straight in the
eye and saying with the utmost sincerity, "Trust me." And, of course,
he does have that confidence of not having anyone disagree with him having been
the CEO of a company where his word was divine and only he spoke to God.
re:LDS Liberal"Pres. Obama still has a full time day job as
President of the United States" ... and that includes plenty of appearances
on the golf course (more than any president in the past 20 years) and more than
his share of appearances on "The View" , David Letterman, Entertainment
Tonight, etc.... I liked what Dennis Miller said the other day. He said that
Barack would make a good talk show side kick ... like Ed McMahon on Carson. This
is where he has spent most of his time over the past year. What
people saw - all 60 million - was a bumbling, confused, over-his-head Obama
desperate for his teleprompter to bail him out. The man couldn't even
defend his own policies let alone grasp what Romney was trying to teach him
about how capitalism worked. That image is branded into the minds of 60 million
Americans and no amount of left wing spin is going to erase it. I'm looking forward to Obama attempting to spin his way out of the Libyan
terror attack cover up in the next debate. That ought to be interesting. Mitt
needs to hold his feet to the fire... again!!
Why the hoopla? The trashing of Obama began before he even assumed the office.
There was the Birther nonsense. Then the claims that he was a friend of
terrorists and anti-American which was parlayed into him being weak and
indecisive. And the Republicans in Congress decided to make sure nothing got
passed and worked to make him a "one term president" after Rush Limbaugh
decreed that the Republicans make him a "failed" president.No one on the Right was interested in solving the problems of America. There
full agenda was to defeat Obama in 2012. It's all there and clear as day.
And many Republicans, to this day, see Obama as not a "real" American
but as a secret Kenyan national who was raised as a Muslim in the madrassas of
Indonesia.So this is where we start. At lot of money was spent
hyping this nonsense and it looked like the Republicans could run anyone, a
turnip, for example, and win. It was in the bag. So they didn't choose
their best and brightest for whatever reason, they finally ended up with Romney,
who had to pledge fealty to the Tea Party and become "severely
1. Romney hasn't worked for years, and he been campainging 24/7 for
Presient non-stop for the last 8. Pres. Obama still has a full time day job as
President of the United States. Romney SHOULD have been more prepared of the 2
of them.2. It was Barrack and Michelle's 20th anniversary -- I
wouldn't be thinking about debating Archie Bunker in Denver either.3. Mitt Romney has been on so many tangents and gone so many directions
on so many issues, I'm sure that Pres. Obama had no idea which Mitt Romney
would come out and from which stance on any given issue he'd be coming
from. Like fighting a wildman....he keeps you constantly guessing. [I know how
I'd react to lies, surprised and quite frankly shell shocked.]4. Turning the sound down would make Mitt Romney appear to be the winner, but
that is also completely ignoring the facts, and the REAL debate.
game over for obama. it took 5 years for americans to figure out this guy
isn't up to the task, never was, never will be.
game on???? What was it before the debate? Game off? This is funny. It's
like a football team getting crushed by an opponent and making the statement
after the game now they are going to get serious. Yes it is time to NOW get
serious. Trouble is Barack still has the same UGLY record to defend so that
hasn't changed. So what now - Barack goes out and acts tough? How?? People
could care less about shallow tough talk from a president who clearly is over
his head. 60 million saw a bumbling clueless Obama in living color on TV and
that isn't going to change. Obama couldn't defend his policies then
and 2 weeks isn't going to change anything. Actually - this next debate is
going to be talking about the Libyan cover up as well as all the apologize for
America side show so it is pretty hard to "talk tough" with that hanging
over your head.
To Happy Valley Heretic 8:35 a.m. Oct. 9, 2012 Exactly right.
Romney tries to be all things for all people, even when he has to contradict
himself (i.e., lie) in the process. Add to that the fact that he was acting
like an obnoxious bully, and it becomes very clear he is not qualified to be
President. Nobody would be able to know which Mitt would show up at any given
time, and it would be extremely difficult for anyone to trust anything he said
or did. That is NOT what this country needs.
I wish they could do a debate in the style of the oreilly/stewart 'rumble
in the air conditioned auditorium'. That was fun to watch.
Only because appearances count more than content in "American Idol"
style debate. Romney acted like he was trump running his own reality
show, facts and truth and be darned.Rules? those are for regular
folks, romney used an old fashioned teleprompter–notes.Romney's a real chameleon on the issues, changing his answers even
reversing what he previously said to fit the group he's selling to at the
moment. It's hard to debate what someone has said, when they've said
so many different things.