re:VST"Mark, is that the reason why Democrats are now focusing
their campaign strategy on talking about "Big Bird" rather than some of
serious issues of the day"I believe it was Mitt Romney who
interjected Big Bird into the national conversation rather than explaining how
he could enact $5 trillion in tax reductions and not increase the deficit.
Defunding PBS seems to be one of the few things he could name toward decreasing
spending to pay for his tax proposals.
That's so lame of an excuse for Obama. The fact that he eats, sleeps, and
drinks politics for his job and the fact that he knows (or should know)
everything from insider knowledge means he should be the most prepared person on
the planet for a debate, and should need zero time preparing. Ouch. Makes him
actually lamer than I thought when you think of it that way. And that is the
correct way to think about it.
With all the confusion that abounds on the Internet and the extent of commentary
on these threads, it becomes difficult to make any assessment of the accuracy,
truthfulness, and honesty of some of the comments made here.There is
a definite possibility of tolls and sockpuppets writing comments which subtly
take a specific position with the intent of casting doubt to that position and
invite flamers to descend giving the impression that a comment is "real"
and deserving of derision.This letter may be such an attempt to
confuse the dialog. Also, the number of critical comments attacking
Obama's so-called "lack of preparation" suggest that this letter is
a plant with the sole purpose of developing ridicule. Personally, I
believe that this letter was written by an anti-Obama shill trying to make a
silly case of "lack of preparation" and give nonsensical excuses for the
President's performance. It seemed to be a carefully-developed ruse to
make Obama appear unprofessional and incompetent, perhaps by someone in the
Romney campaign outside of Utah in the style of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove.Unfortunately, you can't protect against such letters/comments,
only be aware they exist.
Eric,See, I KNEW you could do better! Why didn't you say that
in the first place?Now getting back to the original topic. Tell me
why, after three years on the job, was he so ill-prepared for a discussion
aboutwait for itwait for itwait for itHIS JOB?maybe because he is not qualified for his job.He may be "doing his job", but he's not doing very good at
Lost in DCWhere to start?Has Obama appeared on The View,
Letterman, SNL, and Leno? Yes. Right there, you're talking about four
hours of his time. Maybe five, counting travel time. It's what Presidents
do. Roosevelt gave radio addresses. Current Presidents make their case on
television. Part of the job of being President is using the megaphone of office
to make your case for certain policies. You say President Obama isn't
doing his job. I say, you don't know that, you don't know what his
days are like, you don't know how hard he works. But his daily schedule is
made public; he works his butt off. Occasionally, he plays golf. Bush did,
Clinton did. The job is hard enough that a little R & R is a crucial. He
certainly doesn't spend half his time clearing brush at his Texas ranch.
Truthseeker,MSNBC blather does not pass off as truth.
Re: mark Salt Lake City, UTThe liberals have grown so used to
blaming Bush for Obama's failures that they were at a loss as to how to
explain his dismal showing in the first presidential debate. They got to blame
somebody, blaming Bush isn't an option, so the only thing they can do is
blame Romney for not standing there and taking it on the chin like Obama
apparently expected him to do.
Mark,thanks for proving the final statement of my previous post
The only thing Romney has unequivocally stated he is going to cut is funding for
PBS. Can't even name a single tax loophole he would recommend eliminating.
He's just throwing red meat for the low information masses, who see
everything outside Fox and conservative programming as a threat.
Is that why our president is flying around in Air Force One to many fund raisers
in New York, Hollywood and elsewhere? If he is so engaged, he has an inside
track on the answers. His handlers do the preparation. There is a reason Mr.
Obama does not look presidential.
“The fact that Obama got his clock cleaned dumbfounded and shocked those
who worship him.”“Are you actually saying he
HASN’T been campaigning ever since he was inaugurated?”“biden, with a vocabulary that doesn't extend beyond a couple
F-bombs”“I know that liberals think the federal
government is the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus ““His
problem is, he's is under the delusion that the media was supposed to
protect him.”“And he's making the mistake to listen
to the Democratic talking points about Romney... all of which are easily refuted
Now that's what I call low information
"Low informed voters, you mean the same ones who had BO in the lead by 8
points pre-debate?"Nope, lost, I mean like these:
“Except that he DOESN'T do much with those duties he's
assigned.”“However, in actuality, he has spent his time
fundraising and appearing on talk shows like The View instead of actually doing
the job he was elected to do.”“the mad scramble to cover
it up and lie about it.”“he tried to bully both Jim and
Mitt into giving him more time to ramble on” “Obama's version of "Truth": "My mother was denied
health coverage as she died of cancer" "I will cut the deficit in half
by the end of my first term" "Obamacare is not a tax" " Oil
production is the highest it has been in years" "Solyandra was not our
program per se" "Since I've been president spending has risen at
the slowest pace in 60 years" "Fast and furious was begun by the
previous administration" "The Libya attack was spontaneous"
"Romney is a liar"”“Obamaphones”
@Whatever:"... he would cut Big Bird from the budget."Not only Big Bird but Bill Moyers as well. Good move."A whole
0.012 percent."A fair start... Compared to Obama's adding
Obama has had more than four years to prepare. He's been president, for
heaven's sake. And as such, has been in the mix all that time.His problem is, he's is under the delusion that the media was supposed to
protect him.And he's making the mistake to listen to the
Democratic talking points about Romney... all of which are easily refuted
lies.The Psalms writer has advise for the American voter... "Let
his days be few; and let another take his office." (109:8)
I know that liberals think the federal government is the Easter Bunny and Santa
Claus and should bestow gifts on all the deserving people, but if the federal
government were funding the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus, they should be on the
chopping block too. Thank goodness the we haven't funded them yet.
Eric,Fox spin? You can do better than that lame old foil.Are
you actually saying he DOESN’T spend time on The View, Letterman, SNL, and
Leno?Are you actually saying he HASN’T been campaigning ever
since he was inaugurated?Sheesh, I know you’re a BO apologist,
but I have come to expect much better of you.RepublicanthinkstraightYou can’t be serious with your comments
about biden and ryan, can you? biden, with a vocabulary that doesn't
extend beyond a couple F-bombs; and ryan, who has actually put together a
budget.LDS Lib,I guess you are unaware of the tens of
thousands of banking jobs lost during the current misadministration, thanks in
part to dudd-frank, which did NOTHING to end too-big-to-fail.Mark,Low informed voters, you mean the same ones who had BO in the lead
by 8 points pre-debate? You had NO problem with them then, did you?There are plenty of very smart people on both sides of the aisle; too bad your
typical leftist intolerance blinds you to that fact.
Re: Hutterite American Fork, UT"I don't want to make excuses for
President Obama. Romney's a lightweight and the President should be able to
clean his clock."The fact that Obama got his clock cleaned
dumbfounded and shocked those who worship him. Their only defense ...... attack
Romney.Here's a little advice for Obama. Next time you show up
for a presidential debate bring your A-game and leave the valium home.
Let's not have any lame excuse. I get tired of the spin-meisters
explaining what the candidate "really said", and I cannot accept that
Obama's weak performance (although adequate) was a happy sight. There was
much to counter with regard to Romney's statements, and the Republican
surrogates were relieved that he wasn't taken to task. Is this the
victory?Romney was, well, Romney. He changed his message to suit
his audience and we will have to see how it plays out. The rush to declare a
victor is nonsense. Just because Obama did not rebut Romney's bizarre
change of position on ideas he has been promoting for the past six months, it is
not realistic to believe that Romney was, therefore, being honest in his
statements. Even his campaign people corrected his "mis-statement"
about healthcare and pre-existing conditions.Not being caught in a
untruth is not the same as making that untruth suddenly true. Romney's tax
plan to reduce taxes on the wealthy remains the centerpiece of his campaign.
His desire to eliminate Obamacare in all its parts and disassemble Medicare
while significantly changing Social Security remains in place.
VST, you are right, the low information voters are Romney's supporters.
Shame isn't it. It's unfortunate that republicans have no
core. They will sat and do anything to win. Makes me a bit queasy to watch them.
For instance Romney very clearly changes his position to only gain political
advantage. Like his own people refer to it: an etch-a-sketch, shake it and start
over. And that's his own people saying it. It's telling to
watch the videos that are coming out now with Romney debating Romney. And the
Republicans lap this stuff up, they love the flip flops, even to the point if
pretending it isn't happening. They make every excuse imaginable why it is
okay for Romney to have no core believes. And the Republicans
embrace the low information voters, they have to, they need them. Its their
Dumbest dumbest dumbest letter I've read in a long, long, long time in any
newspaper. If this is indicative of the liberal mindset, heaven help them.
Perhaps Big Bird should enlist in the military.Since those are the
ONLY jobs the GOP seems willing to create.BTW - When Mitt Romney
promised to create 12 million new jobs and no cuts but actually increased
military spending, all I could imagine was yet another GOP led war.
Democrats see absolutely, positively no reason to make any cuts to the federal
budget ever!If we can't cut "big bird" - (who's toy
licenses are probably in the billions)what can we cut?No cuts for
"big bird", no cuts for Planned Parenthood, no cuts for Obamaphones, no
cuts to medicaid, no cuts to foreign aid, etc.Looks like in reality
the Democrats are the party of "no". No cuts anywhere, anytime. Make
government bigger, and bigger and bigger.......
I don't want to make excuses for President Obama. Romney's a
lightweight and the President should be able to clean his clock.
The liberals have put forth many excuses for the dismal performance by Obama.
Why not be honest and admit the real reason behind Obama's stupor: As Al
Gore pointed out, Denver is at a high elevation and Obama was suffering from
"So this is the latest Fox News spin,that President Obama doesn't work
very hard at his job?"No: It comes from Entertainment Weekly (as
part of it's investigative journalism highlighting Obama's top secret
peace-keeping and economic summit meetings with with Beyonce and George
Clooney)"What Obama wasn't prepared for was the bold
version of Mitt Romney who walks back his proposals and then lies in a national
debate."Seeking truth involves more than repeating Stephanie
Cutters lies. And repeating them ad nauseum does not make them true.Obama's version of "Truth": "My mother was denied health
coverage as she died of cancer" "I will cut the deficit in half by the
end of my first term" "Obamacare is not a tax" " Oil production
is the highest it has been in years" "Solyandra was not our program per
se" "Since I've been president spending has risen at the slowest
pace in 60 years" "Fast and furious was begun by the previous
administration" "The Libya attack was spontaneous" "Romney is a
PBS spending is symbolic of the bigger picture. If we can't stop borrowing
money from China to subsidize a commercially-viable children's show, how
will we ever find the backbone to make the hard choices?
George Bush had more vacation days than Obama... Sorry Obama can't disclose
everything behind the scenes... Kinda hard to debate a pathological, flip
flopper that takes multiple stances on multiple issues. For once, I wish Mitt
Romney would stand by anything. We democrats would respect him a lot more if he
would stand firmly on any issue. But at this point, know one knows what he
stands for. Obama will expose Mitt in these next debates, gloves are coming off
and its about time. Ryan will be way over his head in this debate. Biden is not
the passive kinda guy, he will call Ryan out on all of his lies. Watch.
It's never Obama's fault, is it? It's not his fault that he knew
nothing about the economy. It's not his fault that he didn't even
know the two-minute rule. It's not his fault that he tried to bully both
Jim and Mitt into giving him more time to ramble on about things that had
nothing to do with the question. It's not his fault! It's never his
fault! He was dealt a bad hand.Just what was he so busy doing? He's just like some of my grandchildren. When we ask them to help,
they say, "I'm busy." When I look around the corner, they're
busy - watching TV or playing a video game. What "game" has
he been playing instead of running the country?
So this is the latest Fox News spin, that President Obama doesn't work very
hard at his job? Incredible. Why? Because he doesn't spend half his
Presidency clearing brush on his ranch in Texas? Here's what I
promise you: you wouldn't be able to manage his work load.
What is the response by the Pres? Liar liar pants on fire. Are we still in the
third grade? It is time to put the adults in charge.
@1conservative"As far as Big Bird, would YOU pay 450 million of your
OWN money to keep him on television?"Well seeing as I'm not
Mitt Romney, I don't have 450 million of my own money I can give. However,
there are 300 million or so americans so I think my share of the bill to keep
him on TV is $1.50. I'm cool with that.@Whatever"A
whole 0.012 percent. Very impressive..."Hey he also said
he'd get rid of Obamacare and since Obamacare is fully paid for because of
the Medicare cuts and taxes in it that means total repeal of it leads to a
deficit increase according to the CBO analysis, something like 100 billion over
10 years. So it's more like Romney is cutting the deficit by -.3%.
You're right, Pat Fox-Jacobson. Pres. Obama had vital commitments, such as
playing golf, rubbing shoulders with celebrities, ignoring our allies, appearing
on late night talk shows, and flying off to fund raisers in the face of national
security threats. He just didn't have time to prepare for those pesky
debates. Now I understand.
What Obama wasn't prepared for was the bold version of Mitt Romney who
walks back his proposals and then lies in a national debate. But Obama
should've been prepared for this Romney. The Republicans have learned they
are appealing to low information viewers and therefore can say anything.
Ryan's convention speech was panned for the unprecedented amount of lying.
So someone finally gets Romney to actually answer a question about what he would
do if elected and the one thing that he says is that he would cut Big Bird from
the budget. Wow. Amazing. All those years of being a benevolent job creator and
he comes up with an absolutely brilliant idea to cut the budget by 0.012
percent. A whole 0.012 percent. Very impressive...
What ever gets you progressive liberal democrats though the day.
Can this person be serious?? I think my head is going to explode if I hear one
more LAME excuse for Obama's debate performance. I must say ditto to the
other comments pointing out all the time wasting activites the Presdient is
engaged in. They are right on."Big Bird" doesn't need federal
funding for Pete sake. I can only imagine how much money Sesame Street gets from
all the Sesame Street toys that are sold. The whole thing is beyond stupid.
If President Obama had actually spent his time being a leader and governing,
this might actually be a good excuse. However, in actuality, he has spent his
time fundraising and appearing on talk shows like The View instead of actually
doing the job he was elected to do. The day following the death of 4 Americans
in Libya, he left for a fundraising tour, instead of dealing with this crisis-
which involved the failure of our State Dept to provide sufficient security and
the mad scramble to cover it up and lie about it.The excuse that he had no
time to prepare is just about as lame as Al Gore's excuse that the altitude
in Denver affected him. No excuses- it just showed that he was arrogant enough
that he thought it wouldn't matter- he could come in and win with his
obvious intelligence. Wrongo bongo!As far as PBS and Big Bird- if they
are that popular, they should be able to survive in the free market economy and
not need tax dollars to stay on the air.
If Obama spent more time doing his job he would have been plenty prepared. No
time for debate prep, meeting with world leaders at the UN, intelligence
briefings, or figuring out a budget that could actually pass, but he always has
time for late night TV, the View, golf, and expensive vacations.
Except that he DOESN'T do much with those duties he's assigned.Instead, he plays golf and asks Hollywood hot shots for money so he can
play ever more golf at taxpayer expense.As far as Big Bird, would
YOU pay 450 million of your OWN money to keep him on television?If
not, why should the taxpayers pay that same amount to have a big yellow bird
teach the ABC's?
Just remember the first debate of 2004: John Kerry eviscerated G. W. Bush, Bush
won anyway. In the first debate of 1984, Walter Mondale was the clear winner.
Reagan appeared confused and muddled, many people thought that the debate showed
him to be clearly too old for the job. Reagan won anyway.In the
larger scope of tings, debates rarely make much difference.